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Mayor changes tune on black violence discussion.Rebukes author for citing crime problems
World Net Daily ^ | 4/20/2013 | John T. Bennett

Posted on 04/21/2013 2:38:35 PM PDT by IbJensen

If blacks can criticize whites, then whites should be able to say the inner city “needs to get its act together.”

That was the bottom line of “Being White in Philly,” a controversial article written by Robert Huber and published in Philadelphia Magazine.

(Mayor Nutter)

What followed was predictable. Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter said the article was a “sin” and an “incitement to extreme reaction.” The mayor called upon the Philadelphia Human Relations Commission to “rebuke” the magazine and Huber.

But not long ago, Nutter was calling for a “national conversation” about racial issues: “Black on black crime is not an isolated problem. It affects every member of every community. This is a national problem with national implications, and there needs to be a national conversation.”

Huber told WND that he assumed that when the mayor said “conversation” he meant the ordinary meaning.

“We need to learn to talk to each other honestly, without fear,” Huber said. “That would be a big step toward solving some problems.

Believing that the mayor was welcoming an actual conversation, Huber contributed his article, “Being White in Philly.”

Huber and some of the people he interviewed were critical of the crime and social disorganization in the city. Several spoke honestly about the racial aspect of crime and other social problems (See a condensed summary of their statements). On the basis of personal experience, some interviewees spoke about break-ins, assaults, robbery and other antisocial acts.

But what are the actual circumstances of crime in Philadelphia?

Over the last two decades, the city has lost 32 percent of its white population, or 263,254 people. During that time, crime was a major concern.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: mayormichaelnutter; mayornutter; pennsylvania; philadelphia
Huber’s: “misguided perception of African-Americans … as an ethnic group that, in its entirety, is lazy, shiftless, irresponsible, and largely criminal.”

How many times has this quote been regurgitated by so-called negro leaders, mayors, pastors, and negro politicians. It is now their mantra.

These apologists are fully aware of the negro problem in their cities but do absolute nothing about it, continue the victimization of blacks, and blame whites for everything negroes do and know their people use the terms above to describe their own people.

There is no such thing as African-Americans ! That politically correct terminology was coined in the late eighties mainly by politically correct liberal white and negro people. The continued use of this hyphenated lie does nothing but continually hold the negro race down.

1 posted on 04/21/2013 2:38:35 PM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Philadelphia is a lousy, bankrupt, crime-ridden city. I try to avoid it.


2 posted on 04/21/2013 2:51:51 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: IbJensen

This has turned into reverse discrimination, hasn’t it?


3 posted on 04/21/2013 2:53:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: IbJensen

“misguided perception of African-Americans … as an ethnic group that, in its entirety, is lazy, shiftless, irresponsible, and largely criminal.”

Methinks thou dost protest too much.


4 posted on 04/21/2013 2:56:43 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Salvation

There is no such thing as “reverse discrimination”, or “reverse racism”. Redundant.

Indeed, there is no reason to call “discrimination” automatically a bad thing. We discriminate all the time. If not, we are damned fools.


5 posted on 04/21/2013 2:57:49 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: IbJensen
Robert Huber seems to be a little puzzled that Mayor Michael Nutter is miffed at his article. My guess is Mr Huber and Mayor Nutter have different understandings of the words “Conversation” and “Dialog”. Mayor Nutter like most African-americans use the word “Dialog” when they really mean “Monologue”. See, just a misunderstanding.
6 posted on 04/21/2013 2:58:22 PM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

There certainly is a culture to which many black Americans subscribe to that does encourage laziness, shiftlessness, irresponsibility and criminality.


7 posted on 04/21/2013 2:58:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: IbJensen
Nutter simply said the article arose from Huber’s “misguided perception of African-Americans … as an ethnic group that, in its entirety, is lazy, shiftless, irresponsible, and largely criminal.”

Read Huber's article, and it said no such thing. It actually danced around trying to make reasonable points without overly violating PC norms.

I don't know any reasonable person who believes AAs are an ethnic group that is, in its entirety, lazy, shiftless, irresponsible, and largely criminal.

Not even John Derbyshire.

Any reasonable person will, however, agree that a much higher percentage of the AA population falls into this stereotype than of any other American ethnic group.

That is an unfortunate fact, and denouncing those who point it out won't make it go away.

8 posted on 04/21/2013 3:02:21 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: IbJensen
So much for having a national conversation on race that the libs always talk about. It seems forthright conversation with some give and take is the last thing they want. Libs have turned the word "conversation' into another psycho-babble word for them to deploy
9 posted on 04/21/2013 3:03:48 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: IbJensen

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/white-philly/
Being White in Philly
Whites, race, class, and the things that never get said.

By Robert Huber
March 2013
6521 Comments and 986 Reactions

(See how many comments it got!!!)


10 posted on 04/21/2013 3:05:50 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Salvation

They are the new masters, whites having abdicated their once proud role of forming and governing nations.


11 posted on 04/21/2013 3:08:59 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: IbJensen

Nutter said the piece was bogus because it depended upon “...white people who have used isolated negative experiences to draw perverse generalizations...”

After surviving three armed robberies, two commercial burglaries, and two instances of my AA neighbors helping themselves to the batteries in my truck, I guess I’ll now have to apologize to Nutter for the sin of having my personal experiences shape my “perverse” perceptions.

(not)


12 posted on 04/21/2013 3:31:01 PM PDT by Tigerized ("..and whack 'em, and whack 'em, and whack 'em!' cried the Toad in ecstasy." (continuing in 2013))
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To: Salvation

it did about 25 years ago.


13 posted on 04/21/2013 3:33:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: IbJensen

When the mayor said he wanted a ‘conversation’ he meant for whites to sit down, shut up and listen.


14 posted on 04/21/2013 3:33:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: IbJensen
funny but i don't remember reading that in the article... must be nutter's opinion
15 posted on 04/21/2013 3:40:55 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
His response is typical and as expected because Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter is a BLACK, anti-white RACIST!

Philadelphia is a black-racist cesspool and white people have got to be out of their ever loving minds to live there because they have a big bulls eye painted across their chests and foreheads along with a giant sign around their necks which reads:

"I'm white; abuse, mistreat and kill me because Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter says I have no rights and am fair game for BLACK ON WHITE CRIME!" And in fine print it says:

"Don't worry about being caught or prosecuted because I will keep my white mouth shut and not complain or press charges because Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter says and believes "Black on white crime doesn't exist because the white man, woman, boy and girl gots it coming!"

Is it any wonder many white people no longer want to have anything to do with them and are moving out of Philadelphia and other racist hell-holes as fast as they can for the sake of themselves and their children.

As for Obama and his ilk; they have set race relations back 60 years.

One more thing; I have traveled all over the world and I felt safer in the cities of Moscow, Saint Petersburg Russia, Kiev, and Ukraine at night then I did when I had the misfortune of having to be in Philadelphia.

16 posted on 04/21/2013 3:58:38 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

Black on white violent crime, much of it racially motivated, is the Elephant in the Living Room. Eric Holder was right, although in a way opposite of what he meant, when he said we are a “nation of cowards”

Thousands of whites are brutally attacked, murdered, and hate raped by racist black thugs every year in the USA to the almost complete silence of the media,politicians,and the PC police.

Is there not one national politician with the guts to speak out against this scandal? Apparently not. We are truly a nation of cowards.


17 posted on 04/21/2013 4:13:18 PM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: Jmouse007

If you take the brief time to read the FBI Uniform Crime Reporting statistics and the Census you will learn two facts 1) African Americans make up 14% of the US population and 2) they commit and/or are the victims of 50% (approx.) all homicides. Further, with a bit of math you can accurately calculate that 2.4% of the US population commits 40% of all murders (Black males ages 13-40 are 2.4% of the US population). If the rate of African American homicide was brought to the same as that of all other Americans, the US would have a homicide rate about like that of Canada.

The KKK (the para-military wing of the Democratic Party) could not do to Blacks, what Blacks have done to themselves. Wake up people!


18 posted on 04/21/2013 4:22:19 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Tigerized
After surviving three armed robberies, two commercial burglaries, and two instances of my AA neighbors helping themselves to the batteries in my truck, I guess I’ll now have to apologize to Nutter for the sin of having my personal experiences shape my “perverse” perceptions.

Yep. I'm one of the ones who left Philly after 2 home invasions, 4 home robberies; a car theft, a street mugging, and a gunpoint mugging into the window of my car at a stoplight. And that's not counting the stalking by a felon, my kid being mugged walking near our house; being hit broadside at an intersection by a taxi driver, and another time breaking a rib when hit by an uninsured driver, who then proceeded to harass me to use his cousin to repair my car (I wouldn't); and being subjected to relentless doorbell-ringing and begging by a drug-addicted carwash guy who preyed on our neighborhood. OK, granted; that was over 30 years, with most of it concentrated more recently.

The only incident in which I'm not positive if the perp was "of color" is the car theft.

All this time, I was an aggressive proponent of racial equality, made sure our family attended a well-integrated church and scout troop, and hired blacks as often as possible (none of whom were involved in any of the above situations).

I got so tired of it. I moved to an 80% white suburb.

Things were pretty good out here until the helpful Democrat Party gerrymandered the new school building to be 95% black enrollement. A decade later, the neighborhood is now about 20% white; we have to have police in the schools and stores and a privately-funded patrol car in our formerly serene development where you used to be able to leave your doors open all night for some air. Now our community dues have tripled, because we have trash and broken glass in the streets, and today's residents don't bag their leaves or pick up their dog poop like before -- but that's ok for the newcomers, because the housing values have dropped and their mortgage payments are lower. We have to lock everything up and run the air conditioning -- not very "sustainable." Now, I get called "f'n white b*tch" or "racist" or "you think I'm your slave" over any small misunderstanding about entering a door first or second, or giving way or not giving way at a stopsign intersection, or when following the rules at my workplace when the rules don't suit a black customer's sense of entitlement.

I'm a little old white-haired lady now. Two guys in a car last summer thought I cut them off in traffic (I didn't -- they didn't read the lane markings correctly) and when they pulled up behind me at a traffic stop, they got out of the car and beat my car so severely with fists and feet that they totalled it, before the light changed so I could drive off. None of the eight or nine townspeople also sitting at the light got their license plate or reported it. A younger black lady on my block asks me twice a week to do some favor for her involving time and/or gasoline and has never once offered me a cent; you can guess what would happen if I refused the demands she makes "because we are friends."

Trouble is, there's no place to go.

I say this having made a number of cherished black friends over the years who are professional people like my family, and loving their children. But regardless of their moaning about the economy and even about gun control, they all vote Democrat without exception. I pointed out to one how healthcare would be rationed, and she said, "Nobody going to make ME wait!" She believes this. And if it's a waiting room, and it's her with a stuffy nose and the others are a dozen acutely ill or badly injured whites who arrived before her, she will be right.

19 posted on 04/21/2013 4:58:39 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: Uncle Lonny
Thousands of whites are brutally attacked, murdered, and hate raped by racist black thugs every year in the USA to the almost complete silence of the media,politicians,and the PC police.

Federal Statistics of black on white violence, with links | Free Republic

Censored Black-on-White Violence in America | FrontPage Magazine

A Censored Race War? | Thomas Sowell

20 posted on 04/21/2013 5:05:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: IbJensen

Philadelpia is a sickening sh*t hole, almost exclusively due to Black crime - anyone who says differently is either deluded or a liar.


21 posted on 04/21/2013 5:57:45 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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This happened weeks ago.

Anything but Gosnell trial coverage, anything at all.


22 posted on 04/21/2013 6:13:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Tupelo
What Nutter, and most black policians mean by "conversation" on race, is that blacks get to tell whites how everything wrong in the black community is the fault of whites, and then whites may get a few minutes to agree with what's said. When black policians talk about how we need to talk about black dysfunction affects all of us, what they mean is that whites are supposed to take responsibility for-and pick up the check-for the black dysfunction, not talk about how black dysfunction and violence is affecting the white community too.

What whites have to do is stop being too cowardly to just say that we have a point of view also, and it's a white point of view, just as they have a black point of view, and it's just as valid as the black POV. We have to stop being too cowardly to say that black violence is affecting whites, in that whites and other non-blacks have been targetted for black crimes, such as businesses looted and innocent victims assaulted by mobs purely based on being other than black. Whites have a stake in this besides just footing the bills and taking unfair blame.
23 posted on 04/21/2013 6:14:33 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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