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Marco Rubio’s press secretary likens non-citizen permanent residency to slavery
Twitchy ^ | Monday April 22, 2013

Posted on 04/21/2013 10:09:55 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: Bigtigermike

Well, THIS is a humongous pair of clay feet for Rubio.


51 posted on 04/21/2013 10:59:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Bigtigermike

(Speaking in biblical terms, like the statue referred to in the book of Daniel which was made of composite iron and clay, which won’t mix into a durable blend.)


52 posted on 04/21/2013 11:00:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Oh I get it! I’m a minister as well. I totally get what you’re saying


53 posted on 04/21/2013 11:02:34 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

I don’t consider myself “easily duped,” but I was completely wrong about Christie and Rubio.


54 posted on 04/21/2013 11:05:31 PM PDT by SoCalTeresa
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To: Bigtigermike

when they say reform we get something like Obamacare

this new immigration bill is 1500 pages the equivalent of an immigration Obamacare that of course will grow government, give amnesty to illegals, and let 100 million more of their relatives in.

look people the problem is these laws, gov creates a problem as the 1965 immigration act another law created this illegal and 3rd world immigration problem , so they say let’s fix immigration so then we get an even worse monster to add to our troubles, more gov, another 1500 page law which is not the answer. the answer is to repeal the 1965 immigration act as repealing Obamacare is


55 posted on 04/21/2013 11:06:18 PM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: Bigtigermike

Alas in this day some over-zealot might get the idea that I was suggesting concrete shoes or some such thing. (Which is not the idea. I think he should be very humanely ousted from office if he continues down this road.)


56 posted on 04/21/2013 11:07:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I hate to say that I will vote for the lesser of two evils again...but I will. Once again if the occasion arises.

If the Dems run a candidate as anti-American as Obamster, which I expect they will, this country will be lost anyway.

There doesn’t seem to be a viable third party at this point. If something comes up that changes that, I’m on board.


57 posted on 04/21/2013 11:07:53 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Bigtigermike
"He only rode the Tea Party train to get elected"

Sad to say, but it looks like you are right, damn it.

58 posted on 04/21/2013 11:10:06 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Bigtigermike

People like Rubio, people with an Hispanic background, almost always have a vision problem when it comes to immigration.

They may sound quite reasonable or conservative on other concerns but when it comes to immigration they become inconsistent.

It’s too bad because Rubio did seem to hold conservative positions on other issues.
But I am glad he revealed his true beliefs at this early stage.


59 posted on 04/21/2013 11:12:12 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Bigtigermike

Is he insane? Or just illiterate + stupid.
Slaves were brought here as captives in chains and sold atauction. The illegals come here of their own free will and have countries they can return to.
I have been warning about Rubio ever since he was caught in the lie about his family fleeing Castro ( they didn’t) - but this is beyond the beyond the degree of leftist fraudulence I could have imagined.
Disgusting.


60 posted on 04/21/2013 11:12:16 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Bigtigermike

taxpayers are closer to slaves than “undocumented immigrants”


61 posted on 04/21/2013 11:12:19 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: SoCalTeresa

Rubio and Jeb Bush are best buds. Jeb also has a Mexican American wife.

Since they are buds, maybe expect a Jeb Bush - Rubio ticket.


62 posted on 04/21/2013 11:12:23 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: berdie

May I suggest that because people keep voting for the lesser of two evils, that is the very REASON a viable 3rd party cannot and does not form?


63 posted on 04/21/2013 11:14:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Marcella

Hate to say this, but if Jeb Bush is the GOP candidate in 2016, I’ll sit out the election. I will not vote for another Bush no matter what.


64 posted on 04/21/2013 11:14:30 PM PDT by SoCalTeresa
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To: Norm Lenhart

The time for a viable third party is when the Democrats stink so bad they can’t even come up with a third of the votes. Otherwise we have only a spoiler situation.


65 posted on 04/21/2013 11:15:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; All
This is the sort of thing you expect out of liberal-emote, not out of conservative-think.

I fully agree.

66 posted on 04/21/2013 11:16:32 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Bigtigermike

F the fat Cuban RINO.


67 posted on 04/21/2013 11:17:58 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: USNBandit
I interpreted that to mean if you are here working then you should be allowed to become a citizen any time you want and if we don't allow you to, then that is treating that person like a slave.

And, since England doesn't want Piers Morgan back, and he likes it here, he should be allowed to be a citizen right now. I think I would throw up if Piers was a citizen of this country.

68 posted on 04/21/2013 11:19:11 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Then you need to stop complaining about things you vote FOR. Because rather than vote to end the problems you will continue to elect another Rubio and wonder why life sucks.

And not just you. Everyone who thinks like you. Tell me something. To an alien coming here from Mars, he sees a bunch of people acting like blacks on the Dem plantation with their votes. Then he sees them having a fit when they get what they themselves vote for. Can you understand why Mork is a bit baffled?


69 posted on 04/21/2013 11:20:35 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: berdie
Re: “I think Rand is on board with this insanity.”

I agree.

The tip off is always the same.

Amnesty supporters never talk about E-Verify or employer sanctions, which would end our illegal immigration problem in a couple months.

No job?

No money.

Adios, illegals.

Rubio is now talking about E-Verify enforcement in 5 years.

5 Years?

E-Verify is less complicated than the Free Republic website.

Why can't we have enforcement tomorrow?

70 posted on 04/21/2013 11:21:26 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: SoCalTeresa

“if Jeb Bush is the GOP candidate in 2016, I’ll sit out the election.”

I heard Jeb’s speech at the CPAC convention and when he said, “And, in conclusion,” the people started clapping. He pause, looked stunned, then continued. Those people didn’t like him at all.


71 posted on 04/21/2013 11:22:52 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Rubio never ran in my territory, I did not vote for Rubio.

Primaries are the ideal place in principle to fix this kind of thing. It’s easy to curse the darkness. Who’s lighting candles?


72 posted on 04/21/2013 11:23:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

So rather than address the issue you get philosophical?You will vote for whatever the GOP puts up right? Jeb. Christie. A true blue RINO rather than a third party conservative. Just to “Win”. And to hell with principles.

True or false?


73 posted on 04/21/2013 11:26:54 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The best way I’ve heard is somehow a conservative gets elected under the Republican banner and then dumps the GOP after the midterms and runs third party for reelection. The thinking that alot of conservatives would rather vote for the president against the democrat than vote for now a now outside-party-looking-in being the GOP especially if the conservative wins reelection


74 posted on 04/21/2013 11:27:15 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: stockpirate
Another faux conservative bites the dust

We seem so needy of a spokesman that we latch on to any politician that can put together two sentences with out making a gaff.

Rubio is articulate to be sure, but listen to all the flowery speech and see if you can figure out what his real agenda is. Hard isn't it, because he speaks of compromise always.

75 posted on 04/21/2013 11:29:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Bigtigermike
SAY, didn't the fabulous BRAINY BEAUTY Ann COULTER just use that very same term in her now famous immigration dressing down of grover norquist lately on Larry Kudlow's show? Why yes indeed i believe SHE did do that...check out her brilliant tour de force....as Ann covers all base in her 'straightin' out' of these 2...OUTSTANDING!

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/13/coulter-norquist-spar-over-immigration-reform/
76 posted on 04/21/2013 11:29:18 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: kabumpo
kabumpo,

Do you have a quick summary or a link to what Rubio said?

I didn't know he lied about it.

I knew his parents skedaddled to Miami a couple years before Castro took power, though.

77 posted on 04/21/2013 11:34:26 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Jim Robinson
Hate to say it, but Rubio is an idiot on this issue. They’re not being held here against their will. They are not slaves.

I agree with you. There are certainly things I like about Rubio, but I am kind of less and less impressed with him as time goes by.

78 posted on 04/21/2013 11:36:51 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Norm Lenhart

I have worked my hiney off for the TEA party. I don’t see many positive results so far.

I would love to see a third party blossom, but it ain’t a happening thing.

I respect your suggestion about the lesser of two evils being the reason there is no third party...but I fear the real reason is apathy.

Yes, I am discouraged.


79 posted on 04/21/2013 11:42:38 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Bigtigermike
I already know Rubio from Florida politics. Met him several times. The Tea Party was instrumental in getting him elected. It's very true. When most of the liberal media here in South Florida pounded him about his excessive spending habits while using the state's charge card for his own personal uses; among a few other things, those attacks hurt him badly. The TP groups walked the neighborhoods for him, stayed long hours on the phones for him, giving out fliers, getting supporters to rallies on and on / giving donations so he could run local ads. You know, like supporters helping Toomey- now look what's he done to those same Pennsylvanians.

He has made his choice to go Gop-e. He used the TP; now he's in with the good ole boys it seems. He's likable so they used him to get to the people they need (open your minds, we need reforms) True, but not this Schumer bill. For awhile, I thought Rubio was being set up, so Jeb could be the one set in motion. Jeb Bush practically ran Bush's 2nd term as Rove was defending himself in that Valerie Plame/CIA leak case; fearing jail. Rove was even missing daily meetings at the WH. I really believe Jeb was in the middle standing in. We see what he can do. I hope they do not push Jeb on us now Rubio is pushing amnesty forgiveness. I know we need to redo our immigration but not this bill with those lobbyists' groups getting what they want.

80 posted on 04/21/2013 11:44:32 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

Christie, if the amnesty bill goes thru it won’t matter who the Pubs run.

There will never be another Pub president or legislative body. Not that the Pubs are all that great.

If this happens, I mourn the loss of our country.


81 posted on 04/21/2013 11:57:15 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

As are we all.

Comnsider that it took us since 88 to fall this far. What makes anyone think Superman will hit the scene and fix it with his Politi-Ray vision in 5 seconds?

Apathy? Absolutely a problem. But the bigger IMO is that everyone believes in Magic Bullets. What they need to believe in is themselves, buck the hell up and understand that only idiots fote for the opposite of what they claim they want.

I will scream this till I can’t. If people insist on voting for closet Democrats like Rubio who are obvious liberals, they need to shut up when they get Amnesty or Gun control or abortion or gay marriage. Because they have the chance to vote elsewhere of their free will and do not.

And if anyone can show that logic to be incorrect, they should do so. To date, no one has.


82 posted on 04/21/2013 11:59:45 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: itsahoot

I haven’t trusted him since he hit the big time, my basic position is republicans are all part of the big government New World Order, and never go weak at the knees as some report in an attempt to mislead the rubes, they never go weak in the knees because they actually support the same agenda.


83 posted on 04/22/2013 12:15:00 AM PDT by stockpirate (COME AND GET THEM.....)
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To: stockpirate
Rubio isn’t selling out to anyone, it is what he has always believed,

100% correct!. I have a sixth sense for quickly sensing if a person has rabid Statism in their core DNA.

I remember clearly within the first days after his election Rubio was speaking, rambling on. During that speech he said something that instantly made me realize this guy was a complete fraud.

He spoke about "illegals" (not using the word). There was one sentence that revealed his views to the world contradicting the very essence of what it means to be a Conservative. Ever since that speech I get sick when Radio hosts and leaders call him a "wonderful" Conservative. Nothing could be further from the truth.

All one has to do is view the youtubes of his post election speeches and clearly catch the line.

84 posted on 04/22/2013 12:15:13 AM PDT by sand88
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To: Norm Lenhart

What I find interesting is that the Dems found Superman with a magic bullet with Obamster. But we can’t seem to do the same.

We support people like Paul, Rubio and Toomey thinking we are doing a good thing.

Your logic is not incorrect in the least. But we are trapped.


85 posted on 04/22/2013 12:22:23 AM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

I don’t think it’s a case that they found Superman really. All the lib groups have contrary interests...see Muslims and WyminZ rights factions. But they ALL decided to abandon a few of their principles for their ‘greater good’, and coalesced around the village idiot who promises all things to all people and in the end, provides them with what? They are all pissed at him but they have a fantasy that some day he;ll distribute their ration of Soma....real soon now.

One good wedge and that coalition of coalitions explodes like a nuke. But the current GOP tries to prevent that instead of capitalizing on it and so is just another willing partner.

Here on the supposed right, we do the SAME DAMN THING. Romney was a prime example. We abandoned principle just like the dems, so that we could form a winning coalition just like the dems, all with competing interests just like the dems, expecting ours were the most important just like the dems, to elect the village idiot just like the dems and we wait for our own Soma from the GOP just like the dems...real soon now.

Instead of getting off the Jeep to Guyana and our appointment with the Kool Aid stand, we rent a helicopter to get there faster.

People need to admit that they made a huge mistake. If to no one but themselves, and STOP DOING THE SAME STUPID THINGS that got them where they are.


86 posted on 04/22/2013 12:34:20 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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A fee to be paid by Rubio if he wishes to have the Establishment’s blessings for 2016.


87 posted on 04/22/2013 1:06:26 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Why did he have to play the ‘conservative’ role? Why didn’t he just start out as a dem in the first place? He’s going to lose all conservative votes with this immigration nonsense.

I have a relative by marriage whose family came from Europe when he was five, maybe 60 years ago. He said his family was told that if they asked for welfare, they would have been deported.

And now look where we are.


88 posted on 04/22/2013 2:35:24 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Time to flush Rubio. He’s become as big of a stinker as Scott Brown.


89 posted on 04/22/2013 2:57:47 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Bigtigermike

AMNESTY TWO ISSUES NEVER TOUCHED

ACTIVE FR’S IF YOU SEE ANY CREDITABLE REPORTS OF PROBLEMS AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE HAVING WHILE LIVING IN MEXICO PLEASE POST THEM.....

(1) When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?

This is a question: Should Mexican citizens when in the US be given the same rights American citizens are given while in Mexico? This has yet to appear on any US legislator’s questionaire from either chamber....ASK YOUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS WHY IT HASN’T

(2) What makes it necessary for US to subjugate our sovereignty because of available cheap labor ? While the Godless Demo-Coms socialists encourage population control and abortion . Then complain the US is not reproducing enough citizens to replace its aging retiring workforce. But rely on (as the Romans did) on foreigners (barbarians) .to keep their welfare ponzie schemes supplied with tax money and keep the system working..

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections .


90 posted on 04/22/2013 3:01:50 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause..Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: TigersEye

Exactly. They can leave any time they like.


91 posted on 04/22/2013 3:03:28 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: 4rcane

taxpayers are closer to slaves than “undocumented immigrants”
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BINGO -— Rubio and all his associates make me want to barf!

I wonder if Rush Limbaugh is ready to wash his hands of this phony yet?


92 posted on 04/22/2013 3:04:23 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: dagogo redux
and lust for power is thicker than both.

And politicians are thicker than anything in the known universe!

93 posted on 04/22/2013 3:08:00 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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To: TigersEye
“No one is forcing them to stay here another minute.”

Precisely! This is unadulterated b.s.

94 posted on 04/22/2013 3:08:33 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle (Hil)
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To: ResponseAbility
Lincoln would be proud.

Uh, Lincoln DID want to "colonize," i.e, deport freed slaves, to either Liberia or Central America.

95 posted on 04/22/2013 3:09:55 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Bigtigermike

Slavery is when you work hard and someone else reaps the reward.

I work hard and pay taxes. Illegals show up and collect welfare and benefits. That makes me the slave.

And I’m sick and tired of slavery.


96 posted on 04/22/2013 3:12:52 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: berdie
What I find interesting is that the Dems found Superman with a magic bullet with Obamster. But we can’t seem to do the same.

Well, we did, but the Rats and the GOP-E took her down...

Palin, the Alaska Bloggers and "Ethicsgate"

Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin


97 posted on 04/22/2013 3:21:55 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: sickoflibs

our savior speakeths...


98 posted on 04/22/2013 4:00:18 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

But we all have to jump onboard the RINO ‘16 bandwagon now before it is too late. After all, he is better than XXX or XXX.


99 posted on 04/22/2013 4:00:28 AM PDT by conservaterian (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party, but no, if we do that the libs will win !)
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To: Bigtigermike

Guys, he is right. I grew up in an area with a lot of packing plants. There is one that continually flies in Indians from South America, bunks them in a company shanty town (which doesn’t meet the Nebraska fire code), pays them less than minimum wage, denies them workers comp when (not if) they get hurt, and then fires them en masse when enough learn English or Spanish and start asking questions.

Go take a look at the migrant worker companies. Some of their conditions are much worse.

These are things I have seen with my own eyes. Not on the news.

However Rubio is dead wrong. Amnesty won’t help these people, the companies that hire them will just dump them and go find more. If you really want to stop illegal immigrants, start arresting the plant managers, accountants, executives, etc that are hiring them. In the Midwest, the language on the kill floor of most packing plants is Spanish or an Indian dialect (a few plants with Russian and Chechan). We see this, yet no one seems to do anything about the root cause.

Now the GOP and the Dems will never do that. They want the cheap labor, and don’t really care about the workers. Again , I saw this myself. My home town of Fremont, Nebraska tried to make it illegal to rent a house or apartment to illegal aliens. The local GOP machine swung into action, along with the ACLU, the Catholic church, and Hormel corporation, to kill it. Seems the biggest renter to illegals was Hormel, and they didn’t want the profits to stop.

If Rubio is serious about helping these people out, he needs to start attacking the employers. Amnesty will only make those conditions worse. If the employers do really need those workers, then they need to pay them the same wage and benefit package that they are required by law to do for native citizens. Now that means that you will pay more for meat and veggies, but it will also end this mess.

Of course, I expect many to call me a liar. But I have seen it. I have seen a room with over 30 people living in it with locks on the outside and one bathroom. I have seen the buses come in with people that can’t speak the language, or Spanish, and then work for dollars a day. This problem will continue to you start hitting the companies that make it a policy to hire illegal aliens.


100 posted on 04/22/2013 4:02:36 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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