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'MarcoPhone' Program Covers Area Including 200k Sq Miles, 7+ Million People, Open-Ended Funding
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | April 21, 2013 | Mike Flynn

Posted on 04/21/2013 11:40:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In designing a federal grant program, one can opt for very general eligibility criteria, to provide certain flexibility, but strictly limit the funding to ensure the grant is narrowly applied. One could, alternatively, detail very specific eligibility criteria, with less restrictions on funding, to ensure grants get where they are intended. Applying very general criteria with loose restrictions on funding, however, is a recipe for potential fraud. This is the exact problem with the proposal dubbed "MarcoPhones."

Last week, Breitbart News' Matt Boyle reported that the 844-page immigration proposal included a grant program providing satellite phones to people living in the "southwest border region" of the country. A Florida reporter dubbed the program "MarcoPhones," given Sen. Marco Rubio's public leadership of the "Gang of 8" immigration negotiations. Several outlets pushed back on the story, arguing that the program was originally proposed by AZ Sen. Kyl and McCain in 2011, after the tragic murder of a rancher the year before. This is true, but only to a point.

In 2011, Sens. McCain and Kyl introduced legislation to increase border security. They included a provision to create a 2-year grant program to provide satellite phones for residents in the "southwest border region." An individual would be eligible for a grant, provided, he or she:

(A) regularly resides or works in the Southwest Border region; (B) is at greater risk of border violence due to the lack of cellular service at his or her residence or business and his or her proximity to such border....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: immigration; marcophones; marcorubio; mccain; rubio
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1 posted on 04/21/2013 11:40:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can you say fiasco?


2 posted on 04/22/2013 12:31:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Rubiocare.


3 posted on 04/22/2013 12:33:45 AM PDT by exist
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To: exist

Damned bleeding heart liberals.


4 posted on 04/22/2013 12:34:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, the fear Marco Rubio instills in the enemy is remarkable and for good reason. The intensity of the attacks will grow and they thing that will make him more timid. I have seen him in action, under attack from the leaders of his party and his response is laughter and then he wins. When I say he reminds me of Reagan he does so in 3 ways, the way he smiles, the way he can win people over and the way he wins. His strong conservative values that his parents taught him well will serve him well.


5 posted on 04/22/2013 12:37:56 AM PDT by ynotjjr (Cheney / Rubio 2016 Brand New Heart - Same Old Guts)
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To: ynotjjr
His strong conservative amnesty values that his parents taught him well will serve him well.as a member of the GOP-e.
6 posted on 04/22/2013 1:03:39 AM PDT by peyton randolph (FUBO and his wookie beard)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am no Rubio, Mcain or Kyl fan but I can vouch for lack cell coverage on some of these bigger ranches

I have been active since ‘05 on the S Texas border with a group of like minded patriots aiding BP and County SO. When You are stuck out in the middle of some of these 300k+ acre spreads you may as well furn your smart phone off. There is no coverage.

Many of the big ranchers have gone to sat phones and pay for them out of their own pockets as they should. However, there are small spreads that can not afford them and if bill was setup correctly could aid in reporting illegal invader or drug smuggling activities. Possibly the sats could be only set up to only call SO or BP.

But like everything our FERAL Government does. Common sense will not be used. This if passed could become another Obama phone fiasco


7 posted on 04/22/2013 1:58:42 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: peyton randolph

Rubio will crush Hillary, the sooner you accept it, the easier it will be for you.


8 posted on 04/22/2013 2:01:05 AM PDT by ynotjjr (Rubio / Cheney 2016 Brand New Heart - Same Old Guts)
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To: eartick

Tried radio?


9 posted on 04/22/2013 2:12:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: eartick
Many of the big ranchers have gone to sat phones and pay for them out of their own pockets as they should. However, there are small spreads that can not afford them and if bill was setup correctly could aid in reporting illegal invader or drug smuggling activities. Possibly the sats could be only set up to only call SO or BP.

2 meter ham radio with phone patch.

10 posted on 04/22/2013 2:43:21 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

We tried ham also. Some of the wooded areas were so dense we could not get out. Sats or Onstar would not even work. May work well in Arizona or West Texas


11 posted on 04/22/2013 2:47:56 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: eartick

The smaller ranchers get togeher and build repeaters. Ham clubs do it all the time.


12 posted on 04/22/2013 2:54:10 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Follow the money. Some donor is gonna make big bucks from this. Betcha.


13 posted on 04/22/2013 3:29:50 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Last paragraph of the article:There ya go. nobamaphones are an excellent example. Fraud is rampant, we're paying for it and Carlos Slim is laughing all the way to the bank.
14 posted on 04/22/2013 3:39:04 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: ynotjjr

Wow, the fear Marco Rubio instills in the enemy is remarkable and for good reason. The intensity of the attacks will grow and they thing that will make him more timid. I have seen him in action, under attack from the leaders of his party and his response is laughter and then he wins. When I say he reminds me of Reagan he does so in 3 ways, the way he smiles, the way he can win people over and the way he wins. His strong conservative values that his parents taught him well will serve him well.
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LOL — if this meant as parody or sarcasm!

If this was a serious post, it’s absolutely delusional. Rubio is revealing more and more what he really is as he continues his migration toward being simpatico with Senators Schumer, Graham and McCain. He’s rapidly moving toward the left wing of RINOism. And this is spoken as a FORMER supporter of his and believer in his conservatism.

The only way I could be more disappointed in him would be if we find out he has extensive Muslim connections and/or financing—similar to Grover Norquist.


15 posted on 04/22/2013 4:08:11 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why give anything away? Rubio is being played like a bad fiddle.


16 posted on 04/22/2013 4:20:42 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Obama won again? Dang.)
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To: ynotjjr
His strong conservative values that his parents taught him well will serve him well.

I've heard Rubio "speak conservative." I'm waiting for him to act conservative. That does not bode well.

17 posted on 04/22/2013 4:23:28 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ability to create money out of thin air or issue perpetual debt enables government to spend way beyond its means and this is as good an example as any of the dangerous results.

Just as when a person who builds their home in a flood-prone area should be expected to carry the cost of property damage, if people want to live in an area where security is an issue, then part of the cost of living there is the cost of adequate communications with the outside world.

The only mitigation here is if the danger is due to failures in government policy. However, it appears that instead of promptly taking concrete steps to secure the border, it is more cost efficient to help American citizens whose homes and farms are endangered by policy failures to be able to more easily call for help from an understaffed federal office.

When moments count, cops are only hours or days away.

What a mess. And the bureaucracy cannot be held accountable for the billions wasted in the failed virtual fence project that was a liberal dream to avoid truly effective border control measure.


18 posted on 04/22/2013 4:48:23 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: upchuck; 2ndDivisionVet; ynotjjr; House Atreides; Pan_Yan
Follow the money. Some donor is gonna make big bucks from this.

TracFone, a company that will likely benefit from this type of government program, is based in Rubio’s Miami, Florida.

19 posted on 04/22/2013 5:00:14 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So lets stop calling it an ObamaPhone and start calling it a WELFARE phone. The former gets him votes, the second might cause shame.


20 posted on 04/22/2013 5:01:45 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio is either a useful idiot for the liberals or a double agent for them.


21 posted on 04/22/2013 5:05:49 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Pan_Yan

“I’ve heard Rubio “speak conservative.” I’m waiting for him to act conservative. That does not bode well.”
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Very well put. It didn’t take him long at all to be corrupted. That’s a sure sign of a complete lack of an internal core of integrity. He’s a bitter disappointment to me.


22 posted on 04/22/2013 5:09:19 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cell phone makers and providers have found a new way to profitability by tapping into the public dole by way of sellouts like Rubio.


23 posted on 04/22/2013 5:11:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
open ended funding? where does it end though?
24 posted on 04/22/2013 5:13:50 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: ynotjjr

I guess you forgot the sarcasm tag.


25 posted on 04/22/2013 6:10:49 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: ynotjjr
"Rubio will crush Hillary, the sooner you accept it, the easier it will be for you."

Do people like you EVER learn? We do not and cannot win elections by imitating the filthy Democrats, and Rubio---the round-faced, smirking little used car salesman---is not only doing just that, he might as well BE one. His damned amnesty program will ensure a permanent Democratic majority.

What about that is too hard for you to understand? Is that what you want---tens of millions of illegals rewarded for their crimes, bringing in their entire families, lining up for freebies, and registering to vote as Democrats?

Look at what's happened to California. Thanks to Rubio, that's exactly what the whole country will soon be.

26 posted on 04/22/2013 6:20:30 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ( (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization))
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To: ynotjjr

oh I already see the paulbots are out putting out threads on here to take Rubio down as they know he poses a threat to their guy.

Rubio is saying slavery for illegals was one pathetic thread, posters who put threads out like this are doing it because they want their guy .

Sadly some on here see the thread, think it’s the truth and then say Rubio OR who ever is finished to them


27 posted on 04/22/2013 6:24:51 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Paul, and all the others want some kind of amnesty and it will happen the question is what is the best we can get and as many restrictions


28 posted on 04/22/2013 6:26:17 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boehnerhead is on talking to Hemmer right now. No hope to stop the amnesty bill will be forthcoming from the House.


29 posted on 04/22/2013 6:27:36 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: Thebaddog
Why give anything away? Rubio is being played like a bad fiddle.

Yeah. The other three - all big government guys with decades of tax payer rape and plunder experience - are walking all over him.
He should have chosen conservatives to help him out on this. These guys are going to destroy him (they know it and they don't care).

30 posted on 04/22/2013 7:05:36 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ynotjjr

Rubio is not a Natural Born Citizen so can’t hold a US office higher than senator.


31 posted on 04/22/2013 7:08:22 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
So lets stop calling it an ObamaPhone and start calling it a WELFARE phone.

Yep. "Calling something by it's REAL name is the first step towards enlightenment."

32 posted on 04/22/2013 7:10:16 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: manc

Manc, you know I respect your opinions...but I can’t go for it. Eventually queer marriage will be up for support, and they’ll be pushing it, too.


33 posted on 04/22/2013 7:11:16 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ( (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization))
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To: CatherineofAragon

hello, hope you are well .

no I agree with you but sadly yet again our stupid party and all our officials have gone for this.

I don’t agree with it either and I hear all the time we can’t send them home, but having gone through immigration I know we can.

We use what legal’s do and that is you go to your own country and you go to a consulate and then apply for a visa and then wait in their own country before coming here and we do background checks and let tem pay their bills and fees like legals do .

That way millions of them can make their way home and go through the proper channels and if they do not in 6 months they then are arrested and sent home with no way of ever coming back legally and we close that border down and keep track of those on visa’s here.


34 posted on 04/22/2013 7:15:40 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

We’re doing well here, thank you, manc....hope you and your wife & family are, as well.

I like and agree with your ideas. I’d also heavily fine employers of illegals, and give them jail time if necessary.


35 posted on 04/22/2013 7:43:29 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ( (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization))
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To: eartick; Jim Robinson

Your last sentence is exactly why this boondoggle should be tossed.


36 posted on 04/22/2013 8:23:55 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: ynotjjr

If Rubio gets this monstrous amnesty bill through or becomes president, that will be the end of our country.


37 posted on 04/22/2013 10:23:28 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: manc

I’m no Rand Paulbot, but I am appalled by Marco Rubio and his push for a massive amnesty that will overwhelm our country.


38 posted on 04/22/2013 10:25:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

that;s my point though, Paul and Rubio are virtually saying the same, just yesterday as I said Paul came out for what some called amnesty, where does it stop.

Rubio never said this, it was his staffer, also all the GOP nearly now are pushing for this immigration bill and it will pass sooner or later, it’s what is in the bill .


39 posted on 04/22/2013 10:30:17 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I agree that Paul is bad on amnesty as well. I don’t take it as a given that this bill will pass, though we might as well simply surrender this country if it does.

A pox on both Rubio and Paul on this issue, which should be our number one priority to defeat—and then to find new candidates who will keep it defeated.

We’re talking about 30 million new long-term voters that will go two-thirds to three-quarters Democrat no matter what. That’s an approximately 11 million Democrat voter advantage that the country will never overcome.


40 posted on 04/22/2013 10:37:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Oh I share your outrage, the destruction of this country is soon it seems and because of the idiotic cowardness of one party and the radicalism of another.

How can one grow up hating your own people is beyond me, why is it that this social justice is so common with many misfits and do they not understand that if they are the minority then they will lose more rights than we give minorities today?


41 posted on 04/22/2013 11:28:52 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ynotjjr
Rubio will crush Hillary, the sooner you accept it, the easier it will be for you.

Kind of like Rubio's new BFF Juan McAmnesty "crushed" the "community organizer"?

42 posted on 04/22/2013 11:38:16 AM PDT by LaybackLenny
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To: manc

I don’t understand it either.

But I am reminded of Germany when I see the reaction of Bostonians to the bombing and manhunt: overwhelmingly it is leading to greater praise and appreciation for a large police state—and of their own “Boston strong” response of cowering indoors while the police state took over.

I grew up in the area and the preening virtue of moral relativism that they both display and teach to their children is just loaded with contradictions and irony in how they live their lives.

I suppose Thomas Sowell has done as good a job at unpacking it as anyone in his monograph, ‘The Vision of the Anointed’.


43 posted on 04/22/2013 12:03:02 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: manc

Rand has not said he will support Rubio’s bill. He’s trying to amend it.


44 posted on 04/22/2013 12:15:05 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan

I’ve read your past posts about him , things like he;s baptized so he;s socially conservative but you ignore his gift to the homosexuals and marriage and the list goes on so I;m not going to debate you because you are over this site speaking and defending him as if you work for him


45 posted on 04/22/2013 12:23:10 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I wish!

Maybe I could afford more expensive wine if I worked for him :)

I’ve supported him along with Mike Lee, Ron Johnson and more recently Ted Cruz since 2010. I sat out the presidential race.


46 posted on 04/22/2013 12:26:48 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: ynotjjr
Rubio will crush Hillary, the sooner you accept it, the easier it will be for you.

Following in the footsteps of Presidents McCain and Romney.

47 posted on 04/22/2013 3:13:18 PM PDT by peyton randolph (FUBO and his wookie beard)
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To: concerned about politics

McCain’s idea for the phones. Whadda goof. The ranchers probably have the phones already. It’ll just turn into another fee on the phone bill to give free stuff to the illegals.


48 posted on 04/22/2013 5:14:14 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Obama won again? Dang.)
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To: upchuck

“Follow the money. Some donor is gonna make big bucks from this. Betcha.”

This is probably about unused space on the Iridium system.

Iridium is a system of 56 low orbit satellites that was supposed to compete with terrestrial cell phones. The phones were too bulky and very few commercial custormers signed up and the project went bankrupt.

However, the US military was interested in Iridium since you could get cell service anywhere and Iridium is now a mostly US military system.

So the bandwidth costs nothing, the satellites are already up and paid for by the bond holders losing all their money. Maintenence is done by the US military.

All you have to do is give away a few thousand handsets and you are good to go.


49 posted on 04/22/2013 7:54:32 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Marco telefon-ee


50 posted on 04/22/2013 9:23:34 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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