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Golden Gate Park pot party a major mess [San Francisco]
www.sfgate.com ^ | Sunday, April 21, 2013 | Victoria Colliver

Posted on 04/22/2013 6:05:45 AM PDT by Lonely Bull

San Francisco park workers and volunteers spent much of Sunday picking up and hauling away 10,000 pounds of garbage strewn all over the eastern part of Golden Gate Park known as Hippie Hill, the remnants of Saturday's annual yet unofficial pot-smoking bacchanalia.

But this year's annual celebration - which falls each year on April 20 and is known as "420" - drew a larger-than-average crowd of between 10,000 and 15,000 revelers on the warm weekend day. They proceeded to smoke, drink, eat and rack up more than $10,000 in costs for city crews to clean up the mess, ironically just before Earth Day.

Even by early Sunday afternoon, mounds of empty bags of chips, candy wrappers, snack containers, plastic cups, bottles and other debris still remained to be picked up, the fallout of what appeared to an enormous, collective case of the munchies.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 420; barbariansatthegate; cannabis; crimerate; drugs; drugwar; economics; garbage; girlscoutcookies; girlscouts; goldengate; goldengatepark; hippiehill; marijuana; park; party; pot; potheads; potparty; sanfrancisco; sourcetitlenoturl; warondrugs; weed; wod; wodlist; wosd

1 posted on 04/22/2013 6:05:45 AM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull

I’ve been to music festivals lately, non-accustic - they use compostable cups, plates, forks etc and do not sell water in plastic bottles. The last one I went to was left pristine. These stoners are horrible. In other words, the 20 and 30 somethings do know how to behave as a group but there are always the bad eggs.


2 posted on 04/22/2013 6:09:35 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Lonely Bull

They are too busy celebrating “Earth Day” to be bothered with cleaning up after themselves.


3 posted on 04/22/2013 6:10:27 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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To: Lonely Bull
"There was so much garbage, you'd swear we'd just had Woodstock," he said.

So, like normal, liberals make a mess of things. After nearly 50 years, still nothing has changed.

4 posted on 04/22/2013 6:12:59 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Lonely Bull

obama voters


5 posted on 04/22/2013 6:13:51 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Lonely Bull

Gaia is not amused.


6 posted on 04/22/2013 6:15:35 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: Lonely Bull
Liberals just redistributing their trash, that's all. They apparently believe those city workers are their slaves.
7 posted on 04/22/2013 6:19:13 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Lonely Bull

You mean Lefty dopers don’t clean after themselves ? Far out, man.


8 posted on 04/22/2013 6:20:17 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: left that other site

Shocked I tell ya. Simply shocked. What will mama erf think of them now? I’m kinda thinkin’ that when man has run his course on the erf, she’ll just shake it off like a wet dog and keep wandering around the sun like we were never here. That reminds me. Gotta back the cars out of the garage and crank em up to idle in the driveway for a few hours. Proud to be increasing my carbon footprint to make up for the lights out crowd.


9 posted on 04/22/2013 6:20:24 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Lonely Bull

fags and drags


10 posted on 04/22/2013 6:20:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rktman

I will turn on my BIG amp, play my Les Paul Real Loud, and then go for a ride on my Harley.


11 posted on 04/22/2013 6:25:08 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: CrappieLuck

They are too busy celebrating “Earth Day” to be bothered with cleaning up after themselves.

Dirty smelly hippies are always dirty and smelly and never clean up after themselves!!!!


12 posted on 04/22/2013 6:30:40 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Lonely Bull

No way - 10 to 15 thousand pot heads got together in a park for smoking and drinking and they left a mess...Oh my God who would have seen that coming...I mean, aren’t these the MOST responsible among us. They can smoke pot, hold jobs, and raise families...they aren’t hurting anybody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Elr5K2Vuo


13 posted on 04/22/2013 6:31:38 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: Lonely Bull

In San Francisco it’s legal to urinate and crap in the streets and to dash down Castro nude with a carrot shoved up your ass.

Another decade, or less, and this decaying city on the Bay will be a no-man’s land excepting, that is, for the romantic cable cars. They’ll still be running with homosexual passengers pickin’ and grinnin’.


14 posted on 04/22/2013 6:34:26 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Lonely Bull

I was at the first Gathering of Eagles in DC, where they were on one side of the fence and we were on the other. When it was over, the Lefty’s side was a sea of trash, and ours was tidy to the degree that it had obviously been a point of pride.

I’ve seen the same thing many times since.

If you wander into DC and see an event going on and don’t know what kind of people are there, just look at the ground when they’re done.


15 posted on 04/22/2013 6:43:08 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: IbJensen

Or the quality of the folks who ride the FART (Fey Area Rapid Transit)...


16 posted on 04/22/2013 6:44:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: left that other site

Roger that. Turn all my amps to 11 and plug in my ‘82 blackout Strat in one, my Donahue Tele in one and my ‘65 Epiphone Riviera in the other one. Leave the Hemi Ram runnin’ in the driveway for a while and take extra time at the red lights when we go out for the day. Turn on both ovens to the “self clean” mode which takes about 5 hours and just have a wonderful fossil fuel day. Woo Hoo! Go dino!


17 posted on 04/22/2013 6:44:38 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Lonely Bull

April 20 = Hitlers birthday


18 posted on 04/22/2013 6:49:51 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: rktman

Those are some nice axes, Bro!

Mine is a first edition Robot.

Hell, it’s GREEN, so gaia will LOVE it!

Ebony Fretboard, Mother of pearl inlays, and just MAYBE the Nut is IVORY! LOL!

My Harley is over 20 years old, and has straight pipes!

Vrooooooommmm!

You got TWO ovens? Do you make a lot of Pizza????(With Bacon on it?)


19 posted on 04/22/2013 6:57:05 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: rktman; left that other site

My contribution: take the Miata for a long, spirited drive through the hills, then come home and plug my PRS into my Hot Rod Deluxe and crank it up to 12 (yes, 12)! And if I can find one, I’ll feast on a rotisseried spotted owl.


20 posted on 04/22/2013 7:00:32 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some people take there grammar way to seriously.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

Yummmmm...

Have some Genetically Modified Veggies on the side! LOL!


21 posted on 04/22/2013 7:06:53 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: left that other site

Ovens came with the house. Nothin’ says lovin’ like some bacon from the oven. Or is that bakin’? Since the ‘82 Strat is a blackout I guess I could pass it off to the loons as “representing” what we all seek. No power use at all for anybody dudes. Fossil free for everyone. LOL! As they listen in their latest patagonia outdoor gear made of synthetics.


22 posted on 04/22/2013 7:10:32 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: rktman

They will probably tell you that their synthetic tents are pleasing to the goddess.

This is why:
The Natural alternative to Nylon is Canvas.
Canvas is made from COTTON.
Cotton is not a food crop, and is allowed to be doused with chemicals.
Yet, Cottonseed Oil is used in our food!
Cotton also caused slavery, oppression, and the term “cotton pickin’” is a racial slur.
Because of Cotton, People-of-color in the USA are oppressed by the man.
Cotton should be outlawed because there still exist people who derive their living from picking this evil crop, and those people are OPPRESSED.
Cotton was used in the filament of the early incandescent evil non-squiggly Light Bulb!

COTTON IS EVIL!
BAN COTTON!
(As well as the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!)


23 posted on 04/22/2013 7:24:44 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: left that other site

You forgot one thing about evil cotton. It’s WHITE! Proof positive that cotton is racist.


24 posted on 04/22/2013 7:26:41 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: kingu
=========================================================
"I Remember, I Remember The Wondrous Woodstock Fair"
by Frank Jacobs (from MAD Magazine, April 1970, p. 24-25)
=========================================================

I remember, I remember
The wondrous Woodstock Fair;
In August,'69, it was,
And all the Heads were there;
Four hundred thousand made the trip,
So Walter Cronkite says.
To groove the Who, the Grateful Dead,
Canned Heat, and Joan Baez!

I remember, I remember,
The traffic unforseen
That clogged the lanes for countless miles
On Highway 17;
And even while I write this verse
I fear there is no doubt
That many drivers still are there
Attempting to get out!

I remember, I remember,
That groovy, swinging scene,
That field of wheat that soon became
An open-air latrine;
And how it warmed our happy hearts
And filled us with good cheer
To know the farmer wouldn't need
To buy manure next year!

I remember, I remember,
The way my nights were spent;
The pleasure when I bedded down
Inside my little tent;
And how I found, on waking up,
That all men were my brothers;
That I'd been joined throughout the night
By forty-seven other!

I remember, I remember,
That bleary, bombed-out mass
That wandered 'round the countryside
Freaked out on hash and grass;
Not all of them, I wish to say,
Possessed a glassy stare;
A few, in fact, could still recall
The reason they were there!

I remember, I remember,
That cataclysmic flood
Of rain that tumbled from the sky
And turned the Fair to mud;
And how the crowd threw off its clothes
And mingled in the bare,
Until the place looked something like
The final scene from "Hair!"

I remember, I remember,
The wondrous Woodstock Fair;
But wait -- I haven't told you of
The rock that I heard there;
I'd really like to fill you in,
But much to my dismay,
The closest that I got to it
Was seven miles away!

25 posted on 04/22/2013 7:28:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: rktman

My Bad! LOL!


26 posted on 04/22/2013 8:02:05 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: Lonely Bull

King of the Hill episode about dirty hippies. Truth. These people care about 1 thing, themselves and how they feel about things.


27 posted on 04/22/2013 8:13:38 AM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Mind!)
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To: Lonely Bull

Let the trash stay it’s a good reminder of what type of people they are.


28 posted on 04/22/2013 11:07:17 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: liberalh8ter; Lonely Bull
Barbarians at the Gate, the Golden Gate, that is...

What was to be expected? How much is it different from the Occupy (oqπ)?

On the positive side, those who have been on the "fence" of favouring the marijuana legalization - "medical" or "recreational" - will now think hard if that's a good thing, and whether they and/or their children should be exposed to it. "Occupy" took a huge public relation and image hit when people in NY, L.A., saw the results and the financial and environmental damage of the "movement" despite major media doing everything possible to divert the attention and focus from the damages and inconveniences to some unspecific and rambling "grievencas" and "solutions" to "inequality" of mythical 99%.

The media wants to "normalize" the dopers in the hearts and minds of the public by creating and focusing on a sympathetic portrayal of them, the same way they have done (largely successfully) over the years with the homosexuals on TV programs.

The more they are out in the open, with their typical behaviour that cannot be hidden, the less sympathy they and their "cause" is likely to attain.

29 posted on 04/22/2013 5:22:11 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: IbJensen

nude with a carrot shoved up your ass.

I’m sorry I missed that, must have been raining.


30 posted on 04/22/2013 5:28:40 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Lonely Bull
Marijuana mob violence
31 posted on 04/23/2013 12:14:01 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You Must be Hated by Evil.)
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To: CutePuppy
those who have been on the "fence" of favouring the marijuana legalization - "medical" or "recreational" - will now think hard if that's a good thing

Never mind that the illegality of marijuana hyperinflates its profits and channels those profits into criminal and terrorist hands. Pot smokers are slobs!

32 posted on 04/24/2013 9:33:24 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Never mind that the illegality of marijuana hyperinflates its profits and channels those profits into criminal and terrorist hands.

Unfortunately, you repeat the [academic] assumptions that are not supported by any reasonable statistics, even from pro-legalizing groups (unless cherry-picked in an apples-to-oranges fashion, the same way the U.S. anti-gun groups use their "statistics" and "polls" comparing to "gun-controlled" European countries to sway the population) and have not borne in practice where tried (e.g., Netherlands, where it's de facto decriminalized, regulated, taxed and is legally sold in their "coffee shoppes") and have no relationship to reality.

Not to make this a long post, complete with facts and tables refuting your assumptions, for which you had no empirical basis, but just a few points to yet again refute the above arguments:

Legalization of marijuana in Netherlands (as so-called class D "soft drugs" which are "tolerated" as opposed to "unacceptable risks" class A/B "hard drugs" such as heroin, cocaine, ecstasy/"X", PCP etc.) had no effect of lowering the prices or reducing the illegal drug trade in both marijuana (to those who are otherwise ineligible) or the "hard drugs". Even most serious pro-marijuana groups acknowledge these facts, however some are trying to compare selected numbers to the U.S. "illegal marijuana scenario" rather than to their pre- Opium Acts Directive years or their European neighbors where the weed has long been and still is illegal, or to more homogeneous [than the U.S.} societies such as Japan.

For example, just one study by these groups, acknowledged that:

In fact, there is clear evidence that marijuana in Netherlands has become stronger, on average (higher percentage of THC content) than has been before decriminalization and than in neighboring "illegal" European countries, as well as relative to the average sold and consumed in the U.S.

From Strains of Dutch marijuana deemed to be on a par with heroin - In Holland Now, 2013 February 08

Also, take a look at California where the sham of "medical" marijuana trade has been in effect for many (?) years now. Many municipalities there have passed ordinances banning or severely limiting the "green prescription" dispensaries due to rising crime and legal costs they are experiencing.

So, do you really think that "new" enforcement and regulations will in any way diminish the power of the state or make it cheaper for taxpayers or reduce the crime or lead to better, more enlightened citizenship?

Re "channels those profits into criminal and terrorist hands" - it is one of the weakest and more dishonest arguments one can make about marijuana legalization.

First, there is not that much profit margin in the distribution chain of marijuana for criminals or terrorists to bother with it, as opposed to class A opioid trade (opium / morphine, cocaine etc.) and/or [semi-]synthetic drugs such as MDMA/ecstasy or many LSD-like derivatives.

Second, following the above logic of "depriving" the criminals and terrorists of illicit profits on drugs, should we then legalize/decriminalize class A/B and derivative drugs because that is supposedly the best and least expensive way of doing it?

I suggest, in the future, libertarians think things through and few steps ahead a little bit, before they trap themselves with such arguments.

33 posted on 04/25/2013 7:15:40 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy
Never mind that the illegality of marijuana hyperinflates its profits and channels those profits into criminal and terrorist hands.

Unfortunately, you repeat the [academic] assumptions that are not supported by any reasonable statistics

Except those relating to the legalization of the drug alcohol:

"The lush traffic in alcohol beverages during the violent years of 1920 to 1933 had laid the base of organization for a number of criminal gangs. The termination of the ban on liquor deprived these gangs of their most lucrative source of money" - Special Committee to Investigate Organized Crime in Interstate Commerce

Legalization of marijuana in Netherlands

Never happened - production of marijuana is still illegal and thus still the exclusive province of criminals.

For example, just one study by these groups, acknowledged that:

All words unrelated to price deleted ... leaving nothing.

In fact, there is clear evidence that marijuana in Netherlands has become stronger

So what? Smoke less for the same high - stay healthier.

Also, take a look at California where the sham of "medical" marijuana trade

Also not legalization.

First, there is not that much profit margin in the distribution chain of marijuana for criminals or terrorists to bother with it

Oh, so marijuana is brought to market by the Girl Scouts?

Second, following the above logic of "depriving" the criminals and terrorists of illicit profits on drugs, should we then legalize/decriminalize class A/B and derivative drugs

Yes.

34 posted on 04/27/2013 3:47:43 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Its all for the children of course

potheads should be kept far far from kids


35 posted on 04/27/2013 3:48:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
potheads should be kept far far from kids

Only a legal regulated market can be kept from kids - not a black market such as we have now in pot. Kids report that they can get pot more easily than cigarettes or beer.

36 posted on 04/27/2013 3:54:33 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Its legal” in CO and yet they bring their kids to pot rallies.

disgusting cretins


37 posted on 04/27/2013 4:02:36 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Its legal” in CO and yet they bring their kids to pot rallies.

That's wrong - just as it was wrong for that woman who left her kids in the car while she drank at a bar. Is banning alcohol the answer?

38 posted on 04/27/2013 4:05:19 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

1. That's not a statistic or empirical evidence of mythical "hyperinflated profits" of marijuana trade (I will explain the economics of illegal drugs and Girl Scout Cookies later ****) - it's a pure political statement by a political body with a political agenda ("Special Committee to Investigate..." like the travesties of the more recent commissions on "9/11" and "2008 financial crisis" which absolved the guilty and condemned the innocent). Essentially, after the re-legalization all they did was to rename the "criminal gangs" into "distributors" and therefore the formerly "criminal" gangs (who could now use legal distribution to finance their other illegal activities) were no longer "criminal" - presto-change-o, I do declare, the problem of "illegality" is magically solved! It's no different than granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens / "undocumented Democrats" and declaring the problem of "illegality" solved. It's simply a political statement describing a change in political/legal circumstances, not the financial, economic or social one.

2. This already flawed example further confuses and deliberately tries to equate the economics and science of 1920s with the economics of 2000s, and the production and distribution economics, chemistry and biochemistry of cannabis with "drug alcohol" ***.

For example, there were very few countries in the early 20th century to ever prohibit production and consumption of alcohol (Canada provinces 1901-1924; some territories in Australia 1910-1928; Sweden, Finland, Norway had versions of Dry Law in 1910s and repealed in 1920s; USA was pretty much late to the Prohibition show in 1919 and nearly alone before its repeal in 1933) and less than a dozen Muslim countries which are members of Organization of Islamic Cooperation who currently have Prohibition on alcohol. By contrast, there are very few countries where marijuana or hashish is legal or de facto legal (Cambodia, Egypt don't enforce the laws; North Korea doesn't have laws against marijuana), only few countries have decriminalized it and are still struggling with the consequences of "tolerance" policy.

Like I said before, marijuana pro-legalization people must resort to using apples-to-oranges comparisons (with comparison to alcohols or "not really legalized" line) to justify their position. In reality, they are just being used to actually increase the power of and the flow of money to the state which will regulate, tax and "protect" the population from both legal/decriminalized pot as well as intensifying the enforcement against illegal, cheaper (untaxed and unregulated, sold to/where is illegal etc.) and more potent weed. Even if it was possible to significantly reduce the price of marijuana, the government has no interest in "cheap" marijuana because that would bring in lower tax revenue (which is what most governments are concerned with) and wouldn't feed and offset the expense of regulating/compliance/taxing apparatus, and the "expensive" marijuana is, again, a good bait for the illegal "crime gangs" - no wonder so many people don't understand the economic and social impact of pot legalization, they attempt to compare it to the myths or the wrong sample of facts. "We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction" - Aesop

So "still the exclusive province of criminals" is an obviously nonsensical statement. This home-grown and the marijuana sold in "coffee shops" are not grown by "criminal gangs" and yet, as I've already shown, it didn't reduce crime rates or got rid of the "crime gangs" nor has it enriched the state or the cities, with the possible exception of Amsterdam that relies on "marijuana tourism" - nevertheless, as I already explained, trying to get rid of "criminal gangs" by legalizing marijuana is a fool's errand derived from misunderstanding the economics of marijuana and other illegal drugs, and the real reasons why the "state" is primarily interested in legalizing/decriminalizing pot.

Those who are hoping that "true" legalization will give them the weed cheaper than now would be in for a big surprise. There is simply not enough profit margin in the distribution chain of weed farming to make it so. And the marijuana market is efficient, legal or illegal (in other words, there are many channels and distribution points to have price competition and not allow a price elasticity - in fact, small amounts of marijuana are often given for free, to secure the "customers" on the way to upselling them much more profitable "hard" drugs, since the body tolerance to marijuana usually develops very quickly and they need larger hits or potency).

The main proponent of pot legalization, R.J. MacCoun, who proposed that California's Prop 19 (strangely, defeated) would reduce the price by ridiculous 80% (apparently his main selling point) keeps trying to explain away the fact that in Netherlands it didn't reduce the price, or the crime the same way - "it's not really legalization" Since there are no statistics or empirical examples of marijuana "real legalization", where does the notion that it would bring a drastic reduction in prices, especially unaccompanied with the higher crime rates or the mythical elimination of the "criminal gangs" which hasn't been the case anywhere else? It could only come as a selling point based on biased opinion, trying to put pressure on some politicians or convince people to vote for it?

"Healthier"?

Marijuana long-term effects? - Columbia University, NY

*** Re comparisons to "drug" alcohol (fermented substances, which include significant variances in taste, concentration and intensity and processing, such as beer [brewed, 2%-9%], wine [longer fermentation, 10%-19%], spirits [20%-80%], vinegar [from French "sour wine"] and gasohol) - it's a straw-man argument:

Drugged Driving Safer than Drunk Driving? - by David J. Hanson, Ph.D., State University of New York at Potsdam

Unlike THC, alcohol / ethyl is excreted much faster from the system, gives plenty of "warning signals" when consumption exceeds body's tolerance (to activate body's self-defense mechanism) and the hangovers are not exactly conducive to repeating the experience, and is overwhelmingly consumed not to "get high" as it may have beneficial effect on the system in normal/smaller doses (in fact, as a natural product of fermentation, alcohol is almost always naturally present in the system / GIT, in doses to which most of us aren't sensitive) while, in contrast, "getting high" is almost exclusive province for consumption of marijuana (outside of small percentage of people who really need and could easily find better and/or cheaper, non-addictive painkillers).

Possible long-term effects of ethanol, harmful and beneficial (large png)

"Alcohol is a Drug" - by David J. Hanson, Ph.D., State University of New York at Potsdam

"Alcohol is a Poison" - by David J. Hanson, Ph.D., State University of New York at Potsdam

I appreciate the attempt at sarcasm, but it only shows, not surprisingly, an obvious lack of understanding of Girl Scout Cookies (and illegal drugs) economics, apparently under the misguided assumption that Girl Scouts is a "non-profit" organization.

**** The box of Girl Scout Cookies sells for about $3.50. Of that, the troops (those young pretty girls who sell you perfectly legal "drug" sugar by the pound) keep about $0.70 - that's a net of 20% profit per box. The National Girl Scouts of America keep $1.00, about $1.50 goes to local and regional GS organizations.

The net profit margin for the bakers who actually made the cookies is anywhere from 1% to 5%, at best (which is in line with the large non-unionized bakeries such as Grupo Bimbo or Flower Foods). By way of comparison, chocolatiers make an average net profit of about 10%, legal "drug" caffeine / coffee sellers (Starbucks, Peet's etc.) - about 10%, generic drug makers - about 10%-13%, the biotechs net about 25%.

The highly efficient, vertically integrated marijuana farm achieves about 6%. This is real, empirical data, not the theories from FantasyLand. Data is from The Pot Business Suffers Growing Pains - WSJ, by Ana Campoy, 2013 April 20

Don't forget, they also have to compete with the criminal gangs who don't have the costs of taxation, regulation, inspections and compliance with various state and city rules and limitations on storage, security, eligibility verifications, or make claims of better "quality" or higher potency, etc. etc.

Of course, nothing beats the profit of hard drugs. One pound of wholesale marijuana costs $2,000-$4,000, difficult to grow and bulky to transport. One gram of LSD goes for $10,000-$20,000 and can be spread over 10,000 "hits" (at 100mcg per hit) - it's much denser, far easier to store and far less difficult transport (without being detected). So where do you think the significant profits of cartels or "criminal gangs" are and what do they really want to supply their "customers" - marijuana or hard drugs? If marijuana legalization makes it easier for them to finance their real business, how is any of this helping the taxpayers or reduce the crime unless we assume that most violent crime is directly related to the criminal gangs robbing and murdering each other rather than addicts committing criminal acts to get money or to get high? How does legalizing and creating more addicts help the situation?

So when those little Girls Scouts try to sell you their legal "drug" sugar, think twice before buying it... They are making much more money off your "sugar high" than you realize - "Just say no to drugs!"

I doubt that WA and CO voters would approve the recreational heroin, cocaine or LSD, ecstasy etc. if it were on the ballot (of course, opiates already available for medical use by prescription)... But we just have to "soften" them up with marijuana, and when enough of them get hooked and need a bigger "high" we just might get the "enlightened ones" to vote for "hard" drugs, right? Ingenious.

39 posted on 05/04/2013 9:41:20 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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