Skip to comments.National Guard forced to stand down by law enforcement in Boston
Posted on 04/22/2013 8:42:40 AM PDT by patriotgal1787
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LOL, that’s a new one I never heard before.
At least the main stream media serves it up fresh every day.
This is truly to become a interesting subject.
What are the limits of the Police,SWAT,ATF,FBI,CIA,NG in the time of war on the US soil. Would we use the Navy,Army,or Air force on our own soil?
We will have soo many guns and flash bangs we wont know who set what off and who is responding.
There where soo many guns in Boston. I was a proud SC that someone there had guns. I was worried who was going to use them tho.
Electric companies and Hurricane Sandy.
I think that the fears of posters on FR were right that if the feds were to swoop in and take control, we might have seen the bomber killed rather than taken alive, because "dead men tell no tales."
However, I believe that local law enforcement in Boston saw this as a matter of personal pride. Because of that, they were NOT going to let Obama come in and steal their perp away from them. Boston law enforcement was prepared to capture the bomber alive.
They just learned they can pull off martial law without a notable military presence...next time they won’t need the National Guard with their outmoded notions of honor. Next time you boys can stay on base.
So, before the bombings, the National Guard had troops in place for the Boston Marathon? Does anyone else think this sounds just a little suspicious? Or is this SOP for major events?
Now that’s Obama’s “civilian army.” ;-)
Not referring to the military National Guard, BTW, but the civilian police.
Do you really want a cop on duty more than 18 hrs without a debrief?
“Bowel Burger Au Jus” is an obscure Pynchon reference, From “Gravity’s Rainbow.”
What was BPD’s problem? NG might be carrying (gasp!) FIREARMS?
So who killed the 8 year old boy? How did his little sister lose her leg? The caption of the last image asks if you can see any of the shrapnel that was ‘supposed’ to be flying around or just wispy white smoke. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read...it’s like asking if I saw the bullet when I pulled the trigger!
New Yorks Army National Guard had five CST personnel working at the Boston Marathon. They were very, very near the blast site; they were in harms way. They were able to respond quickly Representative Michael Grimm said Friday while visiting the unit at Fort Hamilton in Brooklyn, reports the Staten Island Advance.
Another unit was closer and had already responded.
It boggles the mind, doesn't it? They had 10's of thousands of LEO's of all various stripes and flavors marching around Boston...driving around in armoured carriers, with the population completely locked down like a bunch of frightened sheep while they searched for a 19 year old punk!
They just proved that the vast majority of Americans will accept any level of government repression as long as they're told it's for their own good. We also told wannbe terrorists that it's pretty damned easy to shut down a major American city and cause chaos. It all makes me sick.
Insist on cops, then insist on Miranda. Can’t have it both ways.
media hysteria is because it happened in a liberal student elitist city, , if this had occurred in MS, ALM, SC, and pne only has to look at TX where something like 15 dead, over 200 injured, 40 h9mes destroyed and a town destroyed ten I doubt the media would be in overdrive.
Now they’re having another mins silence of when the bomb went off in Boston.
agree but like I said earlier, this is Boston a city full of students, communists, liberal, socialists and elitist types.
DiD you not get the memo?
the north east is America and those pesky southern types and small towns, and Midwest and AK are just are tax payers and that’s it.
Without the Feds exercising some legal override options, it goes like this:
Fed Police have the weakest powers and claims.
State police have the second weakest powers and claims.
County police have the second strongest powers and claims.
Local (City/Town/Incorporated Areas) police have the strongest powers and claims.
National and State Guards wouldn't even be on the 'powers and claims' (poor terminology but you get my meaning from it) radar, UNLESS Martial Law was officially declared.
This is policing by the book. I have zero problem with it.
YEAH no shit...the truthers are purposfully putting fake shit out now for other truthers to lap up...now I’m having to spend time talking down some of our own people instead of following muzzy links...
It seems every few years or so there are massive accidental explosions, petroleum fires there etc., so most are not overly shocked or surprised.
BTW, get ready for the symbolism over substance, with the endless candlelight vigils, feel good speeches, terms like, “Boston strong”, songs, and politicans trampling on each other for tv face time.
Are these the same cops who couldn’t get around to pursueing the Mercedes SUV after the shoot/up/down/out in Watertown? And let Joker get out of sight in the “hood? And didn’t have a dog handy to track his bloody trail down with? And didn’t have an ol’ country boy handy who could follow a bloody trail-——————plenty of incompetence to go around with this Beantown bunch. For all the techy hardware they put out they couldn’t follow a bloody trail? If they just had one more surplus armored vehicle I get the idea they’d be able to two Cheechen punks.
I’m probably no better than a truther.
I have fleeting thoughts of our own government putting out something so vile and repulsive to confuse people even further.
Or organizing for America.
I wouldn’t put much past them anymore.
Posse Comitatus doesn’t apply since National Guard troops are under the command of the Governor unless called to Title 10 Activation by the President at such time they become regular military.
“Dont you get the feeling that the public had been fed a whopping pile of ^&*(#@ (lies)?”
“Almost daily “
Do you think we are NOT beng fed lies by this REGIME?
These guys (FBI in particular) like the glory...The FBI had a party after they captured the Unabomber.
They bragged about the heat seeking helicopter....well...apparently you have to tell it where the body is first.
And you have to have a citizen who had just been released from the state imposed curfew call 9-11 first to find the dude....because he alluded 5000 cops.
Ok...I get it...I really do...
I got suckered in when bubba was in office...
The problem comes where in order for this shit to be a false flag....EVERYONE needs to be “in on it”....litterally thousands of cops...volunteers...actors....special effects specialists etc etc ad inifnitum...
and yet the most powerful man in the world cant keep a blow job a secret....
I refer you to a heinlein twist on hanlon’s razor:
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity....but dont rule out malice.”
Oh, I never thought it was a false flag for a minute.
This crap about actors and staging something like this is just unbelieveable.
Can’t be anything but disinformation.
It’s too evil to be sheer stupidity.
“Its too evil to be sheer stupidity.”
Buy evil is out numbered by stupidity 1 million to one...
Truthers are an infection based on paranoia than can effect otherwise rational people...
Is that who the two khaki guys are? No CST on their back though.
Accidental explosions or petroleum fires are in no way similar to planting bombs and the deliberate killing and delimbing of innocent people.
One of the goals for bombers is to lure responders to an area and then set off a secondary bomb.
lets not forget as well as the Boston strong and we are Boston , oh those vigils where mostly women have to out do each other with their crying and make it seems they’re more upset than the next woman.
The national anthem being played for the next few weeks at every turn there are also the so called hero’s.
I heard Carlson this morning on FOX say the neighbor went outside and saw blood going to his boat and called the cops and then called him a hero.
And yes those elected officials who have to scramble to the TV and the media play ever aspect with so called pro’s
I love Boston after visiting during summer vacation twice. May be lefty, but I love the city.
But, as a Texan now, I have to say, I am really upset that the West event has gotten virtually no coverage after the first couple days.
That is especially concerning when the death toll will be likely 10 times worse than Boston.
Spent a weekend in Boston while in the Navy. Had a great time and the people were wonderful. That said the people of Texas are in no less pain; indeed in a town that size most people must know multiple victims. Truly tragic.
I know. I was illustrating the absurdity of tin foil theories.
Thanks. Good to know.
This is rather disturbing. National Guard troops, until federalized, are NOT considered Title 10 (Federal) but Title 32 (State) and ARE NOT restricted by Posse Commitatus. They CAN be used in civil matters.
Also, a Civil Support Team (CST) are full time National Guard troops trained in dealing with WMDs. So, their presence is appropriate. However, I believe the Governor would have needed to send them.
CSTs were created in the 90s by President Clinton to deal with the possible used by terrorists/criminals of radiological/chemical/biological weapons in the U.S.
We are very fortunate that those looney’s didn’t pack radioactive material in those pressure cooker bombs. Then we would have really had a mess in addition to the terrible loss of life.
“The National Guard would have just gotten in the way, and destroyed evidence.”
Not true in this case. Civil Support Teams (CSTs) are HIGHLY TRAINED to not only assess potential WMD situations, they are also highly trained in forensic evidence collection...for possible latter prosecutions.
There use would have been appropriate. Also, I emphasize that a CST is Title 32 (state) not Title 10 (Federal). They would not have been breaking ANY laws in regards to using military for law enforcement. Plus, CSTs aren’t traditional armed forces. They are WMD specialists.
“Many police departments issue WMD detection capabilities to their cops on scene.”
National Guard CSTs are better trained and equipted to deal with WMD detection and assessment than any police department.
Sounds like a turf battle to me. Those bombs could have easily been laced with radiological, chemical, or biological weapon material.
REMFing crowd and lookyloo control?? Please type in plain English for the sake of the ignorant.
Their words or your personal interpretation?
I agree. This article is much ado about nothing. No state of emergency was declared, and law enforcement ran things as well as they could.
The problem, as I see it, is that the Feds are enacting more laws requiring specific crimes to be handled by the FBI, DHS, et al. If they continue to write laws and make specific crimes 'investigate-able' by federal law enforcement, at what point does it become necessary to question whether local police are necessary?
It's not the news, most of it is irrelevant such as this stupid article. It's the source that is desperately hoping for a chance at a Pullitzer.......
Posse Commitatus Act has to do with Federal troops, not National Guard (state troops).
They were there for the potential WMD threat—Detect, respond and assist in WMD after-actions. Early detection means more informed medical response.