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Boston bombing suspect charged, will not be treated as enemy combatant
Fox News ^ | April 22, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 04/22/2013 10:42:57 AM PDT by Envisioning

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Wake up America! He is an enemy combatant, there is no doubt. Jeeze......
1 posted on 04/22/2013 10:42:57 AM PDT by Envisioning
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To: Envisioning

In a felony court, or are they going to let him off with a traffic ticket?


2 posted on 04/22/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Envisioning

Actually, I want an open court and open testimony; I doubt we’ll get this no matter what the venue.

But a good defense attorney could raise some interesting questions.

(Neither Sirhan nor Oswald nor Ray ever got open trials,
with cross-examinations and questions asked.)


3 posted on 04/22/2013 10:44:58 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Envisioning

no, this is what they did to macveigh. he’s a us citizen on us soil. if we lose our constitutional protections in this case, it will set a dangerous precedent. we can’t have justice by lynch mob.


4 posted on 04/22/2013 10:45:11 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Envisioning

Obama is making that happen with Khaled Sheik Mohammed, no?

If KSM isn’t undeserving of a civilian trial, then there is no military court anymore. The mistake was bringing that terrorist back at all.


5 posted on 04/22/2013 10:45:24 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Envisioning

Was Bush impeached when Jose Padilla was tried in a civilian court? If not, why the double standard?


6 posted on 04/22/2013 10:46:26 AM PDT by Kevin C
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To: Envisioning

No...He was bullied by his brother...

Americans made fun of his big nose...

The Internet was a bad influence on him...

All the racism in America drove him to strike out for justice...


7 posted on 04/22/2013 10:46:48 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Envisioning

Not the least bit surprised.

And now we’ll also soon learn about a new diagnosis of some kind ...along the lines of workplace violence:

Public Event violence
Street onlooker violence
Teen angst violence
Marathon explosion syndrome


8 posted on 04/22/2013 10:47:35 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: camle
You are right, I forgot he was/is being considered a citizen.

Mods can you edit the title?

9 posted on 04/22/2013 10:48:27 AM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist.............one more time.............)
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To: Envisioning

Yawn...

arrested by police = civilian trial
arrested by military = military tribunal


10 posted on 04/22/2013 10:49:09 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Envisioning

So speaks King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.


11 posted on 04/22/2013 10:49:32 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: camle
no, this is what they did to macveigh. he’s a us citizen on us soil. if we lose our constitutional protections in this case, it will set a dangerous precedent. we can’t have justice by lynch mob.

I cannot disagree with that. He's a US Citizen. Probably should not be but he is.

12 posted on 04/22/2013 10:49:50 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Envisioning

Since there is no enemy
There is no enemy combatant.
The captured guy is therefore a criminal
QED

If there is no war
there are no warriors
only criminals murder

QED

The logic is unassailable if you accept there is no war


13 posted on 04/22/2013 10:50:09 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Envisioning

He is a legal citizen.

It would have been interesting if his brother had survived. Then we might have had one in military court and one in federal court.


14 posted on 04/22/2013 10:50:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Envisioning
This is as it should be. He's an American (naturalized) and he did his crime in America. Ergo, civilian court.

I have a problem with Enemy Combatant Status for American citizens (e.g., being stripped of all rights), because any of us could be next.

15 posted on 04/22/2013 10:50:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: dragnet2

Poor kid. And if they try him in NY, he’ll probably be acquitted.


16 posted on 04/22/2013 10:50:46 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Kevin C
I'm usually up for a good public hangin’, but as I understand it, the guy was a naturalized U.S. citizen. We can argue about the naturalization process and how this guy qualified, but the decision to treat him as a citizen appears appropriate.
17 posted on 04/22/2013 10:51:37 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: tsowellfan

Can you at least disagree with his term “lynch mob”?


18 posted on 04/22/2013 10:51:44 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Kevin C
Was Bush impeached when Jose Padilla was tried in a civilian court? If not, why the double standard?

Frustration, I believe. They know very well that even if the terrorist was not a citizen on the US, Zero would still make the same decision.

19 posted on 04/22/2013 10:51:46 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: CondorFlight

O.J. got an open court trial.

How informative was that? What kind of Justice was achieved?

The Administration will just use this trial the same way, for its own ends, and not for Justice or to uncover the real threat.


20 posted on 04/22/2013 10:52:03 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Lazamataz
I have a problem with Enemy Combatant Status for American citizens (e.g., being stripped of all rights), because any of us could be next.

Exactly, as distasteful as this case is (and given the current regime any of us could indeed be next).

21 posted on 04/22/2013 10:52:16 AM PDT by Marathoner (Anyone who believes in liberty and the Constitution has almost zero representation in DC today)
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To: Envisioning
He's a US citizen who committed an attack on US soil.

This isn't enemy combatant crap. No extended caribbean vaca for him.

Try him and fry him.

22 posted on 04/22/2013 10:52:23 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Wake up America! He is an enemy combatant, there is no doubt. Jeeze......

He is a United States Citizen on United States Soil. If it turns out he is an "enemy combatant" working on behalf of a foreign government or a foreign terroist network, then on top of the murder charges, they can try him for treason.

He is entitled, by virtue of his American Citizenship, to the same due process as any other citizen. That includes the right to a speedy trial by a jury.

If the government can take that away from him, it can take it away from you.

23 posted on 04/22/2013 10:52:25 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Envisioning
Has he been merandized yet? If not there a good chance he'll walk.
24 posted on 04/22/2013 10:52:28 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Envisioning

If articles of Impeachment are brought against Obama, the urban negor population, all white liberal facilitators and the individual members of congress will declare such action as denying every black American their US citizenship.

Perception is reality.


25 posted on 04/22/2013 10:53:42 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Envisioning

He’s an enemy combatant, but they gave him American citizenship.

So at this point either go through the process to strip him of citizenship or give him the full protections any of us should have.

Don’t create a precedent for ignoring citizen’s rights, simply because of this bozo.


26 posted on 04/22/2013 10:53:48 AM PDT by DannyTN
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“Wake up America! He is an enemy combatant, there is no doubt. Jeeze......”

And also a US citizen with protection under the bill or rights. Sorry, but preventing lynchings is one reason why the bill of rights exists. Perhaps you should be questioning the events that lead to his citizenship.


27 posted on 04/22/2013 10:54:25 AM PDT by zagger
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To: FES0844
Poor kid. And if they try him in NY, he’ll probably be acquitted.

Not too sure that a NY jury will be sympathetic to terrorists after what happened in 2001.

Omar Abdel-Rahman was convicted by a NY jury, and that was before 9-11.

28 posted on 04/22/2013 10:55:11 AM PDT by Kevin C
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To: Envisioning

It’s better to try him in civilian court. Making it military bestows too much credit on them, elevates them to something they aren’t. Trying him in civilian court says “you’re just another murderer”.


30 posted on 04/22/2013 10:56:18 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: dragnet2

You forgot that he was suffering from Twinkie Withdrawal.


31 posted on 04/22/2013 10:56:42 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

A poor rationale for Chief “Justice” Roberts rolling over, but Roberts had those shady South American adoptions he didn’t want to come out.


32 posted on 04/22/2013 10:57:29 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: fella
Has he been merandized yet? If not there a good chance he'll walk.

It appears that there is plenty of evidence convict even without whatever he tells to the authorities.

33 posted on 04/22/2013 10:57:29 AM PDT by Kevin C
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-"no, this is what they did to macveigh. he’s a us citizen on us soil. if we lose our constitutional protections in this case, it will set a dangerous precedent. we can’t have justice by lynch mob."

I have to agree with you. If you're an American citizen, you need to stick to the Constitution, because it's our "We The People's" only protection against tyranny here. I know everyone wants to get tough on these a-holes, but we have to proceed carefully on how things get done. Once you break new ground, we will never be able to re-take it again.

34 posted on 04/22/2013 10:57:43 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: dead

We have a term called treason. John Wilkes Booth and others. We hung the bastards or put them before firing squads. Stop the insanity.


35 posted on 04/22/2013 10:58:53 AM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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Can you at least disagree with his term “lynch mob”?

To a certain degree yes but when I think about it too deeply and consider that the terrorist could have been some nutcase claiming to be a Tea Partier I could easily see the democrats becoming the "lynch mob" against us conservatives, probably trying to take actions to get conservative Talkers pulled off the air.

A “lynch mob” in this case? Yes, I can disagree. It's the precedence it sets for liberals going after conservatives is where that disagreement ends.

To tell you the truth, I had no real opinion on how this terrorist was tried but I did tilt more towards a Civilian Federal Court even though I did not express my opinion or advocate for it

36 posted on 04/22/2013 10:58:58 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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and they will put ALL the Blame on the dead brother


37 posted on 04/22/2013 10:59:05 AM PDT by molson209
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Voted best chance to get a conviction and the death penalty. You really think Obama is going to let us kill a Muzzie??


38 posted on 04/22/2013 10:59:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I hope a Muslim terrorist kills or maims a loved one of yours.

Seriously???

SERIOUSLY???

You seem to be advocating MORE bombings and killings of American citizens just to prove your ill-conceived point.

I hope I'm not the only one to challenge your abject stupidity here.
39 posted on 04/22/2013 11:01:14 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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I hope a Muslim terrorist kills or maims a loved one of yours.

Really? You want a US citizen stripped of their rights and death to the families of those that suggest otherwise?

40 posted on 04/22/2013 11:01:16 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Yes....


41 posted on 04/22/2013 11:01:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Dude


42 posted on 04/22/2013 11:02:22 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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I became a US citizen in 1964. Part of the ceremony was an oath and the pledge of allegiance. He violated his oath so his citizenship should be revoked immediately.
43 posted on 04/22/2013 11:02:29 AM PDT by kkalman
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To: LibFreeUSA

Yup, we can’t throw out US Constitution out the window with the terrorist. If we do, they won the WOT.


44 posted on 04/22/2013 11:02:35 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2LrbsUVSVl8

Police perform house-to-house raids in Watertown MA ripping innocent families from their homes

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/video/video/show?id=4301673%3AVideo%3A1442409&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video


45 posted on 04/22/2013 11:03:05 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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and they will put ALL the Blame on the dead brother

It's already happening...some newsperson or a poltician on one of the sunday news show said that he had been brainwashed by his older brother about all that Muslim stuff....

47 posted on 04/22/2013 11:05:18 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Envisioning
Makes total sense. This is obviously just a case of workplace violence.

</sarcasm>

48 posted on 04/22/2013 11:07:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: bamahead

I guess it comes down to a choice.

Safety & Security OR the US Constitution?

Ironically it’s normally the liberals who choose Safety & Security over the Constitution.

We cannot choose which parts of the Constitution we follow and which parts are not important. That’s exactly how we got a pResident many do not know is Constitutionally eligible to be President and it’s exactly how we came close to losing our rights to own guns. It was politics and the power of the NRA that saved the right to bear arms this time around and NOT the US Constitution and that is SAD.

Just my opinion. I could be wrong. I do understand the arguments coming from those who want him to be tried as an enemy combatant.


49 posted on 04/22/2013 11:09:41 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: kkalman
I became a US citizen in 1964. Part of the ceremony was an oath and the pledge of allegiance. He violated his oath so his citizenship should be revoked immediately.

Good point! This is one reason why I say that those who disagree with this decision also make good arguments.

50 posted on 04/22/2013 11:11:01 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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