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To: Envisioning
This is as it should be. He's an American (naturalized) and he did his crime in America. Ergo, civilian court.

I have a problem with Enemy Combatant Status for American citizens (e.g., being stripped of all rights), because any of us could be next.

15 posted on 04/22/2013 10:50:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Lazamataz
I have a problem with Enemy Combatant Status for American citizens (e.g., being stripped of all rights), because any of us could be next.

Exactly, as distasteful as this case is (and given the current regime any of us could indeed be next).

21 posted on 04/22/2013 10:52:16 AM PDT by Marathoner (Anyone who believes in liberty and the Constitution has almost zero representation in DC today)
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To: Lazamataz

I think I mostly agree with you, but I have a problem with this “magical” naturalized citizen concept. I say “magical” because everyone seems to act like it’s a done-deal, even though he swore an oath to be a citizen that he didn’t mean or keep. Why doesn’t that come into play in determining his status and the venue?

If this (in my view, absurd) interpretation of naturalization is the standard, then I think the process toward the outcome you fear will be accelerated. Jihadists will use our mis-application of Constitutional protections against us, and things will then deteriorate to the point where we willingly allow all of us to be considered Enemy Combatants in order to fight the terror.

I think there should be a substantive difference between natural born and naturalized citizenship, certainly as far as “acts of war” against the US are concerned. The oath for citizenship needs to mean something. If it doesn’t, then immigration, itself, is insanity.


66 posted on 04/22/2013 11:32:28 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Lazamataz

A person born here cannot be stripped, but a naturalized citizen can be.


70 posted on 04/22/2013 11:35:56 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Lazamataz

This “enemy combatant” issue seems to have become a vehicle
to advance the political careers of John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

Graham has to face the voters next year, so he must look tough on terrorism.

I’m not taking the bait and being sucked into this wedge issue for Graham’s re-election.


109 posted on 04/22/2013 4:30:08 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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