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AZ:Woman shoots at suspects breaking into Tempe home
abc15.com ^ | 21 April, 2013 | Deborah Stocks

Posted on 04/22/2013 2:11:41 PM PDT by marktwain

TEMPE, AZ - Police say a resident fired shots at two suspects who broke into a Tempe home on Thursday.

Tempe police spokesman Mike Pooley said a woman heard a knock at the door of her home near McClintock Drive and Guadalupe Road and thought it sounded odd.

Pooley said she went to the garage for a gun and by the time she got back two people were in her home.

She shot at both of them, but it's unclear if either one was struck, Pooley said.

Pooley said two suspects are in custody and two more got away.

The suspects are described as black males and Pooley said police are looking for a black Chrysler 300 with Alberta license plates.

Pooley said this home invasion is related to another robbery earlier today. He said this is a growing trend in which a suspect knocks on the door and if no one answers they break down the door.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; banglist; defense; guncontrol; home; secondamendment
Could the Chrysler with Alberta plates be stolen?
1 posted on 04/22/2013 2:11:41 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

If she didn’t have a gun, she would have been attacked, held hostage and perhaps raped and killed by home invaders, not to mention robbed. She had a gun and fought them off. Stories like this just warm my heart.


2 posted on 04/22/2013 2:14:21 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I live within walking distance from McClintock and Guadalupe


3 posted on 04/22/2013 2:17:00 PM PDT by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

She better learn to keep it in the freakin’ house not the garage. Unless of course she stages several strategically placed as do I and others.


4 posted on 04/22/2013 2:18:25 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: clamper1797

They would be VERY sorry (and dead) if they tried that at this house


5 posted on 04/22/2013 2:24:02 PM PDT by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: marktwain

The local police advice is to not answer if you don’t know who is on the other side of the door. Proceeding to break the door down would get the crook shot immediately and at short range in my area.


6 posted on 04/22/2013 2:24:12 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Resolute Conservative

Keep ‘em in every room - loaded. Somebody needs some more range time as well.


7 posted on 04/22/2013 2:35:43 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

That’s what I do. :-D


8 posted on 04/22/2013 2:44:09 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Truth29

Joe Biden says just shoot em through the door with your double 12.


9 posted on 04/22/2013 2:49:22 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: marktwain

Wait, Tempe? I thought they checked your papers to make sure you were a card-carrying member of CPUSA before they let you buy a house there. Er, become caretaker for a fir-American companion living space. Whatever.


10 posted on 04/22/2013 3:10:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: clamper1797

I don’t think you can be sorry, and dead. Maybe very sorry very briefly, THEN dead.....


11 posted on 04/22/2013 3:11:15 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking; clamper1797

You two sound just like my brother and sister who live over on the other side of the Valley. God help the fool who comes in uninvited...


12 posted on 04/22/2013 3:17:46 PM PDT by HiJinx ("All it takes for evil to win...")
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To: marktwain

I looked long and hard and finally found a little more information.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Tempe-woman-shoots-at-home-invasion-suspects-203691451.html


13 posted on 04/22/2013 3:58:39 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: clamper1797

Same here


14 posted on 04/22/2013 4:00:48 PM PDT by billphx
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To: Still Thinking
Wait, Tempe? I thought they checked your papers to make sure you were a card-carrying member of CPUSA

Hardly ... At least 3 other Tea Party families live on my street. Even the liberal lady that lives across the street packs heat and hates Obama.

15 posted on 04/22/2013 4:03:19 PM PDT by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: clamper1797

The only problem in Tempe is that even the liquor stores have “going back to school” sales


16 posted on 04/22/2013 4:05:00 PM PDT by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: clamper1797

My son was with the ASU PD for a few years - that party atmosphere caused them some of their worst problems...


17 posted on 04/22/2013 4:20:50 PM PDT by HiJinx ("All it takes for evil to win...")
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To: marktwain

As general information, these “knock followed by home invasion or not” robberies are all the rage in southern California, first spread up the coast, and are now heading inland.

If someone answers, they use a b.s. question like asking for directions, then bug out. If no one is home, then typically some of them break in and the others act as lookouts unless there is something heavy and valuable to move.

So far, I suspect most of them are Californios. Arizona is going to be one hell of a buffer, however.

Very little data yet, locally. No comment as to whether she perforated any of them.

And kudos to the Tempe PD, as those guys do not dillydally.


18 posted on 04/22/2013 4:23:02 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: clamper1797

Good to hear!


19 posted on 04/22/2013 4:33:35 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
“knock followed by home invasion or not” robberies are all the rage

just as a point of information, I think it's called burglary when the robbery happens when you're not at home.

I stayed in my sister's house in Phoenix a few years ago while she was out of town. In the course of a week I got 4 of those bizarre "stranger knocks, tries to get in your face, and asks weird question", all different edge-y characters (crack? Meth? both?). They didn't want to wait for an answer as soon as they saw my holstered pistol. I called the police on the last knocker - Phoenix PD found a bunch of seedy types living in a derelict car at the end of the block. That and some recently stolen property.

When my sister returned from her trip I told her all about it. She says something like "oh, right, I forgot to tell you about that. It's been happening a lot lately. But you're from the big city so you should know how to handle it..."

20 posted on 05/01/2013 11:02:54 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: no-s
all different edge-y characters (crack? Meth? both?)

I have seen people use the term "sketchy" to describe it.

21 posted on 05/01/2013 11:05:19 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Truth29

“The local police advice is to not answer if you don’t know who is on the other side of the door.”

Here they tell us to answer the door but don’t open it. Tell them you can’t help them or aren’t interested. Around here it is daytime burglaries, and if you do answer the door it will be a “Oh, sorry - I must have the wrong address.” as they are looking for empty homes.

Although there have been several run-ins where folks don’t answer (napping, music with ear-buds, etc.) but then they confront the burglar after they break in a rear window.


22 posted on 05/01/2013 11:31:58 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: no-s

Often there is a legal distinction that burglary is unarmed, robbery is armed, and “aggravated robbery” is if the weapon is used to threaten, intimidate, injure or kill.

This may even overlap if there is more than one criminal; as if one is armed and the other or others are not, they might all still be classified as robbers; and if someone, a victim, or even one of the criminals, is injured or killed, even by the victim or a police officer, the unarmed ones would be equally guilty of aggravated robbery, aggravated assault or homicide.

Importantly, it doesn’t even have to be their weapon, but could include a weapon picked up at the scene.

My original point was of a somewhat different distinction, between burglary and home invasion robbery. Burglars have been using the “knock before burglarizing” technique for a very long time. But home invasion was usually just raiding through the door, indifferent to their being anyone inside or not.

The mixing of the two techniques, the “knock home invasion” is relatively new, and used not for a single home invasion, but several of them, one after the other, relatively speaking. It first got notice in southern California, then quickly spread up the coast, and is now moving inland.

This is why this Tempe housewife, who did exactly the right thing, is so important. In California and up the West Coast, far fewer people are armed, so this technique really works, which is why it is so popular. However, Arizona is an entirely different ball game.

The number of Californians that own (legal) guns has dropped drastically in the last decade, and is now about 25%, mostly out of the big cities. But in Arizona, 37% of people own guns, and most of them are in the cities.

I suspect that these “four black men” home invaders were from California, for the simple reason that only 4% of the people who live in Arizona are black, only 3% in Tempe, the vast majority of whom are middle class or better, and thus not prone to committing such crimes.

However, Arizona does get its fair share of Californians who come there to raid and return to California, or who continue out of the state, doing the same thing.


23 posted on 05/02/2013 6:58:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Yeah, well stories like this make me sick.

The only reason the defendants were arrested was because the car they were in was black.

24 posted on 05/02/2013 7:02:39 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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