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Police perform house-to-house raids in Watertown MA ripping innocent families from their homes
YouTube ^ | Apr 20, 2013

Posted on 04/22/2013 6:31:08 PM PDT by grundle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LrbsUVSVl8

Published on Apr 20, 2013

WATERTOWN, MA -- On Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent the day storming people's homes and performing illegal searches. While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.

https://www.facebook.com/PoliceStateUSA

This was part of a larger operation that involved total lockdown of the suburban neighbor to Boston. Roads were barricaded and vehicle traffic was prohibited. A No-Fly Zone was declared over the town. People were "ordered" to stay indoors. Businesses were told not to open. National Guard soldiers helped with the lockdown, and were photographed checking IDs of pedestrians on the streets. All the while, police were performing these disgusting house-to-house searches.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; guncontrol; housesearches; leo; manhunt; secondamendment; tsarnaev; watertown; watertownfamilies
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1 posted on 04/22/2013 6:31:08 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Practice for the coming gun confiscation. The sheeple submitted just as expected.


2 posted on 04/22/2013 6:34:29 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South
A new 6-minute YouTube video by yours truly and Mark P. Ferri, about the loss of freedom in America.


3 posted on 04/22/2013 6:35:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: grundle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er7gzj0BbSE
4 posted on 04/22/2013 6:36:08 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: Soul of the South

I agree with you... But what was the alternative?


5 posted on 04/22/2013 6:39:17 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: grundle

Two points:

1) The 4th Amendment prohibits UNREASONABLE searches and seizures—not “illegal” searches and seizures.

2) The 4th Amendment does NOT say that no search may be conducted without a warrant. Read it. Carefully.


6 posted on 04/22/2013 6:40:27 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Soul of the South

I agree with you... But what was the alternative?


7 posted on 04/22/2013 6:40:42 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: grundle

My house, with a warrant they are welcome to execute it, but only to the letter. Without a warrant, the moment they step or reach across the threshold they are armed intruders and will be treated as such.


8 posted on 04/22/2013 6:42:34 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: grundle

another thread discussing the topic if anyone is interested in the comments thereon:

Family ripped from their home at gunpoint; Police storm the property looking for terrorists :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3011135/posts


9 posted on 04/22/2013 6:46:37 PM PDT by deport
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To: South40

Totalitarian regimes are often created during a response to a security crisis. We’ve seen military juntas in Greece, the Phillipines, a number of South American countries, South Vietnam, South Korea, Thailand, Portugal, Pakistan. It is always claimed to be necessary to protect the nation from some declared crisis (often citizen protest against corrupt government) and to be temporary. It invariably ends up being brutally oppressive to perceived enemies of the state and with the totalitarian clinging to power. Of course it could “never” happen in the U.S.


10 posted on 04/22/2013 6:46:48 PM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Arthur McGowan; MacMattico
Two points:

1) The 4th Amendment prohibits UNREASONABLE searches and seizures—not “illegal” searches and seizures.

2) The 4th Amendment does NOT say that no search may be conducted without a warrant. Read it. Carefully.


You are correct.

....what was the alternative?

Agreed. The alarmists on FreeRepublic don't ever have an answer for this question though.
11 posted on 04/22/2013 7:24:39 PM PDT by brent13a
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To: Arthur McGowan
2) The 4th Amendment does NOT say that no search may be conducted without a warrant. Read it. Carefully.

Are you saying the police did not need warrants in this case?

If that is not what you're saying, explain your point.

12 posted on 04/22/2013 7:28:01 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: grundle

Watertown is a neighborhood where many if not most can trace an ancestry back to Armenia. I wonder what the ancestors of the people of Watertown would think of this terrorization by Chechens.


13 posted on 04/22/2013 7:31:33 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: grundle

What’s worse? A known terrorist that killed 4, maimed 100’s with two IED’s at a civilian event, running wild in a neighborhood......or civilians in that neighborhood fighting the police that are searching for known terrorist?


14 posted on 04/22/2013 7:34:32 PM PDT by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Soul of the South
What are you supposed to do when your block is crawling with jackboots like these? None of them had any issue with dragging innocent American women and children out of their homes at gunpoint. They wouldn't hesitate one second in burning down or grenading the home of a violent dissident.

If the cops in these videos get away with all that, the communists and terrorists won...

15 posted on 04/22/2013 7:35:16 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: Arthur McGowan
Searches with warrants. Were warrants issued? Warrants are grant with reasonable cause. Is the fact that a criminal was last seen in your neighborhood reasonable cause?

"When they forced their way into a neighbor's house I said nothing, because they where looking for terrorist."

"When they forced their way into my house looking for my guns no one said anything, because they said I was a terrorist."


I can not believe that FReepers condoning the forcing of innocent people from their homes at gun point with their hands above their heads as a good thing!
16 posted on 04/22/2013 7:35:54 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: varyouga

Maybe the terrorist was going to blow something up, take hostages or get reinforcements...


17 posted on 04/22/2013 7:36:50 PM PDT by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: grundle

I have seen the video folks. I notice it is only that house. I was given the impression they were going house to house but all I saw was 1 house. If I recall I saw that house in the news. I believe there was call supposedly someone thought that the suspect they were searching was hiding out in there. So of course Law Enforcement was not going to take a chance. When I saw the video for the first time, I was expecting to see cops go house to house and having residence with their hands up, but it wasn’t. It was focused on 1 house only.


18 posted on 04/22/2013 7:37:09 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Kartographer

What was the reason they were doing this?


19 posted on 04/22/2013 7:37:28 PM PDT by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: MacMattico

Mark Belling ranted about this today on WISN.

The Boston cops with all of their numbers,.First they let Tsarnaev Jr.get away(how does that happen with nine million cops surrounding them?), then they didn’t make the perimeter wide enough, told people they could come out too soon and didn’t use DOGS!!!

Instead they conducted invasive home searches, engaging way too many officers who could have dispatched in a wider circle and hopefully found the murdering terrorist themselves and sooner!

FBI and Boston PD are patting each other other on the backs and the public is cheering them on..but truth be told, they bumbled the last 24 hours of their search pretty badly..
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20 posted on 04/22/2013 7:38:42 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: brent13a
The alternative? Are you saying that all those LEO agencies, with all their training, equipment, experience and so forth at their disposal the best they could come up with was a plan that required for them to break from their primary duty that they are swore to that is to protect and uphold the Constitution of the United States?

And then we have Freepers The Harry Reid talking about 'imagined tranny' nothing about it was imagined.

Benjamin Franklin - "Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
21 posted on 04/22/2013 7:42:27 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: grundle

The police tried and succeded with their police state tactics on the soft, dumbed down Lefty sheeple of MA.
The response would be much different the the South, much of the Midwest and Texas. If I’m wrong we’re doomed.


22 posted on 04/22/2013 7:45:07 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: Dallas59

In an effort to find and arrest Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.


23 posted on 04/22/2013 7:45:58 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: grundle

I have been kind of shocked that more people haven’t protested about this clearly illegal detainment of the innocent, and the blatant violation of the 4th amendment.

Every day, there are people on the loose in every city that have killed multiple people. There’s nothing to stop the police from adopting these same tactics to try to find those killers.


24 posted on 04/22/2013 7:46:46 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: palmer; Daffynition; from occupied ga; driftdiver; bgill; CodeToad

PING!


25 posted on 04/22/2013 7:47:41 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: grundle

1 million defenseless sheeple cower in their homes while 15000 heavily armed troopers with armored vehicles, robots and black hawk helicopters search their houses for a scrawny 100 pound, 19 year old patsy. Only to be found by an old man looking in his boat. And then they cheer after he’s finally caught like they just won the superbowl. I’d hate to see what would happen if a real terrorist team was ever on the rampage.


26 posted on 04/22/2013 7:49:43 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: grumpygresh

The tried and succeed in their intimidation of the people of Boston, but it was only after they lifted their restrictions that a member of the public direct caused the capture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.


27 posted on 04/22/2013 7:51:57 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: brent13a; Arthur McGowan; MacMattico

What is the alternative? The way we normally operate, in harmony with our Constitution.

Knock, identify, ask for permission. Ask questions to determine if the people in a home are under duress, if not, move on.

It’s not like the search actually found the guy. So all of the searches were an abject failure.

But any day, the police could go into downtown Chicago, and do a door-to-door like this in any public housing apartment complex, and find dozens of criminals. It’s a great way to catch criminals — and it only requires that you throw out the freedoms we hold dear.


28 posted on 04/22/2013 7:52:46 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JohnKinAK

BUMP!


29 posted on 04/22/2013 7:54:34 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: JohnKinAK
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30 posted on 04/22/2013 7:56:10 PM PDT by peggybac (My boss I respect, my father I revered. Chris Rock, Mr. Obama is NOT my boss or my father.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; brent13a; Arthur McGowan; MacMattico; palmer; Daffynition; from occupied ga; ...

You want to know whats really sad? There are more people right now worrying about Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Constitutional rights then there was people worried about the Constitutional rights of all those people who were locked down and had their homes searched.


31 posted on 04/22/2013 7:57:47 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Ken H

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


32 posted on 04/22/2013 8:02:22 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: grumpygresh

Maybe they asked the person who answered the door if they could come in and look? Idk you don’t need a warrant if you ask and are told yes.


33 posted on 04/22/2013 8:04:38 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: grumpygresh
The response would be much different the the South, much of the Midwest and Texas. If I’m wrong we’re doomed.

We're not doomed yet. In my neck of the woods in Texas the headlines would have been interesting.
34 posted on 04/22/2013 8:14:19 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: Kartographer

You know what is even more sad?

Not a congresscretin has had any comment on this matter.


35 posted on 04/22/2013 8:16:56 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Travis McGee

NEXT time, people should all go out and smoke a cigarette:)


36 posted on 04/22/2013 8:20:30 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: ThunderSleeps
Yes but the media would portray you as a gun nut tea bagger and deserved to be shot... Hundreds of times from full automatic assault weapons.... That you are not aloud to own.  photo KILL_zpsed8ac9e7.jpg
37 posted on 04/22/2013 8:28:02 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“....people haven’t protested about this clearly illegal detainment of the innocent, and the blatant violation of the 4th amendment.”

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Neither have any of our congresscritters. We must assume they approve.


38 posted on 04/22/2013 8:30:12 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Soul of the South

Ah, what folks won’t give up for the sake of supposed protection by the government. Probably doomed.


39 posted on 04/22/2013 8:37:20 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Kartographer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3011135/posts?page=181#181

Have we heard about any *resistors* to the thugs?


40 posted on 04/22/2013 8:38:18 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Hey John,The people of Watertown let them in and were glad to see them.They were being terrorized.The man was not old and we got lucky.Everybody was happy for them and had reason to celebrate.


41 posted on 04/22/2013 8:43:28 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

never open your door to the police, if you haven’t noticed, they will stick their foot in the door. Make them show you a warrant


42 posted on 04/22/2013 8:49:56 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: grundle

I saw a post on Twitter this morning from a woman who claimed to live in Watertown, Mass.

She said SWAT guys knocked on her door Friday and they asked her if she wanted her house searched. She said no, and they left.

I can’t verify her post on Twitter.....I don’t know the woman....but I’m just throwing it out there.


43 posted on 04/22/2013 8:51:04 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: fatima

Its obvious people of Watertown are pansy ass defenseless urbanite Obama voting sheeple. Ooooooooobaaaaaaaaaaaama, Oooooobaaaaama, Obaaaaaaaaaaaama.


44 posted on 04/22/2013 8:52:43 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: baddog 219; CodeToad
A note from the future.


45 posted on 04/22/2013 9:02:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Watching that Watertown video... I wonder what would have happened if the homeowner said to the police, no you can’t come in without a warrant.
We the people are in some deep Sh#t in the near future.


46 posted on 04/22/2013 9:10:29 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Ken H

I am sure that in court the police would rely on the exigent circumstances exception to the 4th amendment.


47 posted on 04/22/2013 9:11:10 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: snarkytart

Yep. That works. You also don’t need a warrant under what is called “exigent circumstances” exception, shorthand for a fast moving emergency where there’s no time to get a warrant based on probable cause. Example would be you’re a cop and you just saw an armed criminal enter a house with small children looking out the window. The law, for a very long time, has permitted warrantless searches under such conditions. Can the exception be abused? yes, and it has been, and might have been here, depending on specific situations. But chalking this up to wholesale rejection of the Fourth is not realistic. Nothing defines “exigent circumstance” better than a bomb throwing terrorist running around in a residential neighborhood.


48 posted on 04/22/2013 9:15:25 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: grundle

The only way to rid this country of Muslims WILL be house to house. Phonebooks/city directories will help. Muslim names=search. It`s going to come down to mark your doors with a Cross or Star of David or other non Muslim symbol and stay inside till the noise is over. I`m all for that. This is ludicrous in light of them ignoring OBVIOUS targets and taking such time and care with the last bomber. Reminded me of the endless OJ chase...everyone so concerned not to act in haste re. A murderer.

Do what the Israelis do...flatten their homes. Then put the family on a plane to the Middle East. Landing not necessary...just heave them out. Nothing less is going to work.


49 posted on 04/22/2013 9:49:48 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.Do what)
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I don’t get it - I thought the people were told to stay inside - why are the police pulling people out of their houses?


50 posted on 04/22/2013 10:46:14 PM PDT by radiohead
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