Skip to comments.Saudi Connection to Boston Bombing?
Posted on 04/23/2013 4:53:32 AM PDT by SJackson
Questions remain about whether there is a Saudi connection to the Boston Marathon bombing last week and if the Obama administration has been interfering in the investigation of the Islamic terrorist attack.
These questions take on greater urgency as Islamic terrorist organizations continue preparing attacks. Canadian authorities yesterday upended an ambitious terrorist plot that could have killed hundreds of Americans and Canadians.
In the spotlight is Saudi visa student Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi (also spelled al-Harbi) who was injured in the marathon bombing blast and was initially considered a suspect in the deadly terrorist attack that killed three bystanders and hospitalized close to 200 others. There is a prominent Alharbi clan in Saudi Arabia. Many individuals with the surname Alharbi are reportedly active in al-Qaeda.
Glenn Becks news website, The Blaze, reported yesterday that Alharbi was placed on the no-fly list as a potential terrorist after he was detained by federal authorities last week. A Department of Homeland Security source said the U.S. Customs and Border Protections National Targeting Center (NTC) created an event file on Alharbi under section 212 (3b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, the part of the federal statute that deals with aliens involved in terrorism. The file is important enough that it has reportedly been read by members of Congress.
The burden of proof required to file a 3B [report] is significant, according to sources familiar with law enforcement protocols, the article indicated. Media reports last week indicated that the U.S. was planning to deport Alharbi.
But it is not at all clear what caused officials to flag the young Saudi as a possible terrorist in the first place. Media reports indicated that when Alharbi was hospitalized after being injured in the blast eight days ago, the government called him a suspect, but soon watered down that description, calling him a person of interest, and eventually a mere witness.
Beck said the FBI began backtracking on Alharbis status after Secretary of State John Kerry met with Saudi foreign minister Saud al-Faisal last Tuesday. The next day President Obama met with the foreign minister and Saudi Arabias ambassador to the U.S., Adel al-Jubeir.
Wednesday at 5:35 p.m. the file is altered, Beck said. This is unheard of, this is impossible in the timeline due to the severity of the charge You dont one day put a 212 (3b) charge against somebody with deportation, and then the next day take it off. He continued:
There are only two people that could revoke the deportation order the director of the NTC could do it after speaking with each department which is impossible to do in such a short period of time or somebody at the very highest levels of the State Department could do it. We dont have any evidence to tell you which one did it.
The Blazes source said Alharbi is not currently a suspect in the Boston bombings and is not subject to a deportation order but another Saudi visa student in the Boston area may be deported. That student, who was intercepted when picking up a package at a Boston port, is now accused of violating the terms of his student visa by failing to enroll in school. He has been ordered to appear in immigration court.
At a congressional hearing last week Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano stoutly denied Alharbi was in the process of being deported. If I might, I am unaware of anyone who is being deported for national security concerns at all related to Boston, Napolitano said responding to Congressman Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.).
Duncan followed up by asking if it would constitute negligence to deport someone who just days earlier was a person of interest to investigators.
Im not going to answer that question, Napolitano said. That question is so full with misstatements and misapprehensions that it is not worthy of an answer theres been so much reported on this thats been wrong I cant even begin to tell you, congressman.
Lawmakers were not impressed. The House Homeland Security Committee has asked Napolitano to provide a classified briefing on Alharbi to committee members. The letter, dated April 19, states,
We request the Department provide a detailed overview of the records associated with this individual to include his law enforcement and immigration records prior to April 15, 2013, as well as his current status. We request briefers from the Office of Intelligence and Analysis, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and Customs and Border Protection.
Meanwhile, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police foiled a major terrorist attack in Ontario, the most populous province in Canada. Two suspects, Chiheb Esseghaier, 30, of Montreal, and Raed Jaser, 35, of Toronto were charged with terrorist conspiracy yesterday after allegedly planning to attack a passenger train. The two men are not Canadian citizens but two media outlets reported Esseghaier is Tunisian. Officials said the plot was not connected to the recent events in Boston.
The thwarted attack in Canada and the Boston Marathon bombing are sobering reminders that Muslim terrorist networks remain as significant a threat as ever to Western civilization. Al-Qaeda, in particular, is far from extinction, despite President Obamas claims to the contrary.
RCMP Assistant Commissioner James Malizia said the two suspects received direction and guidance from al-Qaeda elements in Iran but they did not appear to be state-sponsored.
The Toronto Sun reports that the terrorists were considering bombing a train as it crossed a bridge over the mighty Niagara River from Niagara Falls, Ontario, to Niagara Falls, New York.
The plan was to take out a train with passengers on board and the crossing trestle, a police source said. It was meant to be spectacular and there would have been a lot of carnage.
Canada is no stranger to Islamic terrorism.
The RCMP said last week it was investigating whether Canadian national Mahad Dhore had died while participating in a suicide attack on the courts in Somali capital Mogadishu. The student left Toronto in 2009 and allegedly became a member of the Islamist group al-Shabab.
The Mounties are also looking into two young classmates from London, Ontario, who died in Algeria earlier this year as they apparently took part in a terrorist attack at a gas facility. A colleague of the two is being held in Mauritania, accused of joining al-Qaeda in Mali.
Citing two anonymous U.S. officials, a wire service reported yesterday that preliminary evidence suggests that the two young Tsarnaev brothers, accused in the Boston Marathon bombings, were motivated by Islamic extremism but did not appear to be linked to Islamist terrorist groups. This would appear to mean that the brothers somehow acquired bomb-making skills on their own or reached out to someone with bomb-making experience.
The article indicated that the surviving brother, Dzhokhar, who is in the hospital recovering from a gunshot wound to the neck and other injuries, was interrogated but failed to explain how the officials gained personal knowledge of the investigation, leaving readers to wonder if this information was just the latest foul-up in an ongoing story that has been brutally bungled by the mainstream media.
That the Tsarnaev brothers had no connection to terrorist organizations is difficult to believe especially because Russias Federal Security Service (FSB) considered the elder brother, Tamerlan, to be a potential extremist. (Tamerlan was killed Friday in a dramatic shootout with police.) According to Time magazine, the FSB warned the FBI two years ago about Tamerlan after he frequented a radical mosque in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan, during extended visits to that country. The mosque is reportedly a terrorist hangout.
Dagestan, a member of the Russian Federation, is a small, politically unstable country of 3 million inhabitants that borders Chechnya and Georgia in the west, Azerbaijan in the south, the Caspian Sea in the east, and Russia in the north. It is a hotbed of Islamic terrorist activities. The terrorist group Shariah Jamaat, active in Dagestan, is one of the more potent groups in the region, according to the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism.
The Obama administrations foremost designated Islamist appeaser was also in the news.
Always anxious to place his foot in his terrorist-sympathizing mouth, Secretary of State John Kerry compared those innocent bystanders who were murdered in Boston to Turkish-backed armed belligerents killed three years ago trying to violently break Israels blockade of the terrorist-infested Gaza Strip.
On April 21 Kerry said the Boston Marathon bombings reminded him of Turks who died during the 2010 IDF raid on the Marmara. He was alluding to Israeli commandos boarding of the Mavi Marmara, a ship carrying Muslim militants in the blockade-running Gaza Freedom Flotilla.
Without referencing the terrorists participating in the flotilla, Kerry said the Boston Marathon bombing made him acutely aware of the emotions felt by the families of the nine Turks who died during the raid.
It affects the community, it affects the country, Kerry said. But going forward, you know, we have to find the best way to bring these people together and undo these tensions and undo these stereotypes and try to make peace.
No doubt Muslim terrorists are quaking in their boots.
- Okaz, the same prominent Saudi newspaper, that published photos of Abdul Rahman Ali Issa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi in the hospital after the Boston marathon bombings, is now reporting that the Saudi national was also visited by the first lady of the United States, Michelle Obama during his hospital stay. ... In light of recent reports that Alharbi was scheduled for deportation on national security grounds, the first ladys visit takes on much added significance if those reports are true. We already know that the Alharbi clan consists of multiple Al-Qaeda members. This would seem to bolster the claims of scheduled deportation,...
I feel like I’m in the twilight zone.
Spain arrests 2 men suspected of al Qaeda group links
We need aggressive House Investigative Committee hearins on all aspects of immigration of Muslims and possible ties to Jihadist groups.
It is apparent to me that the Dear Leader and Saudi a$$ ki$$er in the WH is determined that Saudi nationals not be implicated in terrorist activities.
What is most probable is that Beck’s facts are right, but his interpretation is wrong.
Al-Harbi must have been designated 3b as soon as he was identified either at the hospital or in transit. Anyone would have done that, given the circumstances. The “very high level of proof” on a sunny day went way own once it was pouring.
Once it appeared that it was another guy, the bureaucrat-in-charge said “oops” and went outside the lines to ease his previous impulsive 3b designation.
There are other possibilities for sure, including al-Harbi being the scene commander for al Qaeda, but I think my scenario is the most probable.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
Lots a other questions, too. Where are the three with the “stroller” now? Where are the witnesses that tackled the Saudi? What made them think he was involved? Did the brothers drive “Porsches,BMW, dres in expensive clothes” as has been quoted? Where did the money for that come from, if so? How is it so many suspicious looking characters were at the bomb site? How is it they weren’t among the casualties? Why was the bomb squad all over the place?
To me it appears the brothers Tsarnaev were “playing” the feebs. The mother says #1 was “working with the feebs for the last 5 years.” Were the three with the stroller the distraction that the feebs knew about in the conspiracy to drop an inert bomb meanwhile the REAL conspiracy was to distract the gummint dummies while the brothers waltz in and nonchalantly drop two REAL bombs? I ain’t no detective but it looks to me more and more that this story explains more than anything the Brownshirt Media is spewing. If this is indeed what happened, or something nearly so, the gummint looks pretty foolish. It sure could explain a few things.
Are we to believe the gummint goons are actually this incompetent? Now they want us to believe #1 wasn’t picked up by TSA when flying to meet his Dagestan AQ buddies because THEY MISSPELLED HIS NAME? How many of us Evangelical, 2nd A bitter clingers believe they are this incompetent when it comes to keeping track of us? I know I am not counting on it.
But why? Who does it benefit to let SA runs things? How does it benefit them? Money? Has to be more than that. What was the motivation of the Bushes to help the Saudis?
Do you understand how many people in 4 depts have to meet to assign that designation to a suspect? You may be correct but my comparison would be a person charged with 1st degree murder and the death penalty changed to J walking the next day. Could happen yes probable Nope.
I have no love for the occupants of the WH, but aren’t a great many of the victims of the bombing hospitalized in the same hospital as Alharbi? If so, why wouldn’t she have been there to visit those injured in the blasts??
When John F'n Kerry was running for President....
Kerry said..."his goal as president in waging war on terrorism would be to "get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance."
In the interview, Kerry drew parallels between his vision for the war and the way law enforcement battles intractable problems.
"As a former law enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution," Kerry was quoted as saying. "We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day."
In the Bush ad, a narrator says: "Now Kerry says we have to get back to the place where terrorists are a nuisance like gambling and prostitution. We're never going to end them."
"Terrorism a nuisance?" the narrator asks. "How can Kerry protect us when he doesn't understand the threat?"
The Kerry camp complained that the ad inaccurately indicated that he viewed terrorism in the present as a mere nuisance and unfairly suggested that he didn't take the threat seriously.
So apparently we are now supposed to believe that their software requires 100% accuracy of data entry in order to function effectively.
Guess we won’t know why the saudis enjoy very special status with our government. Could have something to with all the oil.
We are being told that Dzhokhar told officials that they had no ties to any organization or other individuals. We also know that he would never lie or cover up the truth. These two are only Muslims who let their emotions and love of their religion get away from them. The talking points coming out of the administration and law enforcement makes me want to puke...The administration’s denial will ultimately lead to many more deaths.
Don’t know that it is true but it makes a good conspiracy.
That doesn’t explain the Bush connection, though.
The Al-Qaeda Bar (Big Law Firms Line Up to Represent Terrorists)
Some of the nations wealthiest and most powerful law firms have donated hundreds of
millions of dollars in free legal services to terror suspects at the Guantanamo Bay prison.
Their work, bolstered by left-wing activists groups, has helped to free, or force the
transfer, of hundreds of al Qaeda suspects to third countries. Some have gone back to
terrorism and the job of trying to kill Americans.
The work of big American law firms on behalf of al Qaeda is drawing new attention since
Attorney General Eric Holder decided this month that Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who
orchestrated the murder of over 3,000 9-11, is coming to New York City for trial. Holder
was a partner at Covington & Burling, which in 2005 gave one its attorneys an award for
aiding 17 Yemeni suspects at Guantanamo.
A list of 10 of the largest American legal firms representing Guantanamo terror detainees:
Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw
Manatt, Phelps & Phillips
Shearman & Sterling
Allen & Overy
Convington & Burling
Dorsey & Whitney
Holland & Hart
Hunton & Williams
On terrorists, Justice recused
AG Eric Holder's clients (the REAL reason for the transfer to free them):
Saad Al Qahtani
Achraf Salim ("Sultan") Abdessalam
Abdul Rahman Abdul Abu Ghityh Sulayman
Musaab Omar Al Madhwani
Jawad Jabbar Sadkhan (Al Sahlani)
How well we deserve this curse (~so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things~) God has given us,
through the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF, the FASCIST Obama.
Someone once ask, "When is violence for political purposes justified?"...
I recommend the following for your valuable time, to ponder... (all 37 pages)
All things written in the Bible must come to pass,
and we WILL get to the day worse than has ever been.
And this too shall pass...
Can you remember reading about "a thorn in their side"?
The command I await is...
I am waiting for the Midnight Cry, "when Jesus steps out on a cloud to call His children".
If I could explain it, I wouldn’t ask. I know Obama is pure evil, but Bush???
Why was that Saudi hurt in the blast?? Why was he there?? What prompted the bystanders to tackle the Saudi?? Why all the different stories on him not being a bad guy?? And we have to deal with that “BASTARD” in the white house. Is going to be one of the biggest Cover-Ups of all time??
Um yeah, thats fine. But isnt it the same hospital?