Gun Lingo Lesson

Second Amendment Sisters ^ | 4/23/2013 | Pat Webb, National Coordinator

[2nd amendment mama]

Thought this might be helpful for some of our newer, un-gun-familiar Freepers (and any of the liberal lurkers).

[2nd amendment mama]

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[umgud]

Gun control is kinda like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

Gun control laws have very little impact on crime statistics. Guess what Chicago has that Billings MT or Vermont does not have?

A large population of criminals.

[2001convSVT]

Gun Control = People Control

[Vaduz]

Gun Lingo Lesson
1.Gat
2.Heater
3.Roscoe
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[2nd amendment mama]

This isn’t a list of various names for guns - but thanks for your addition. What Pat is trying to do is explain for the “novice” how the left has changed our language when it relates to gun control.

[2nd amendment mama]

You and I know that but the low information voter doesn’t.

[stuartcr]

I thought the ‘gun show loophole’ was about people being able to buy weapons in the parking lot and not needing any kind of check or FFL.

[Vaduz]

It isn’t only guns they want to control just about everything th country stands for.
Thry fail to understand utopia isn’t a real place.

[umgud]

Thank you for all you do to get this info out there.

[TigersEye]

Here's an educational video for the anti-gunners and the MSM.

Cartridge vs Bullet

[real saxophonist]

See tagline.

[Oberon]

Yeah, it’s kind of like saying that all journalists have to be registered and licensed, and then complaining about the “blogging loophole.”

[Billthedrill]

Mercifully the author didn’t attempt anything really difficult like pointing out the difference between a clip and a magazine. That one appears to be beyond the entire Harvard faculty. BTT.

[2nd amendment mama]

You’re welcome. Glad someone appreciates it. Sometimes I wonder when we have some Freepers who are so critical of things we put out there. Seems it’s never good enough or correct enough. They always feel the need to criticize. I truly wonder exactly what they are doing on a daily basis to protect our rights!

[Joe 6-pack]

"Automatic Weapons": This is a vastly misunderstood and misused term. An "fully-automatic" firearm is one which, when the trigger is depressed and held, will continue firing until the trigger is released. A "semi-automatic" firearm or "auto-loading" firearm is one which, when the trigger is depressed, will fire one round and reload itself until the ammunition storage device (magazine) is empty. For each depression of the trigger only one round is fired."

In general usage, this is correct; HOWEVER, it is not incorrect to refer to a semi-automatic pistol as an "automatic." Yes this is confusing; however, it hearkens back to the late 19th and early 20th century; the early days of "automatic loading pistols." Indeed, the official US government nomenclature for the beloved 1911 is, "Automatic Pistol, Caliber .45, M1911." When it was phased out as the standard service issue sidearm, the military changed the terminology to reflect contemporary usage and labeled the Beretta, the, "Pistol, Semiautomatic, 9mm, M9."

The manufacturers back in the day marketed their semi-automatic pistols as, "automatics," so, especially for old-timers, or those of us who learned from them, the reference to a semiautomatic pistol as an, "automatic," is not inappropriate...

[MissNomer]

Mercifully the author didn’t attempt anything really difficult like pointing out the difference between a clip and a magazine.

Actually, that was one of the things I was hoping to learn from the posting, but it wasn't there. Could you explain it for an admittedly firearms-ignorant but eager-to-learn Freeper? I am not a member of the Harvard faculty, so you can have reasonable confidence that I'll get it!

[Billthedrill]

I'd be delighted. Basically a magazine is an enclosure for cartridges (not "bullets" but that's another topic) that has a spring and a little platform called a "follower" that work together to press the cartridge into position to be chambered. It can be internal - a lot of hunting rifles are like that - or external, a little metal box, which is where the controversy is centered. An external magazine fits through a hole in the stock to place the cartridges in position.

An internal magazine obviously has a specific capacity, but an external magazine can be longer or thicker or both in order to hold more cartridges.

A clip is a hunk of metal that holds cartridges together so that they can be inserted into a magazine. It can't feed cartridges by itself as it has no spring or follower.

These are clips. The one on the left is for a Garand M1, which is an old U.S. army battle rifle. These cartridges are thrust into the magazine with the clip still attached, and when the last shot is fired, the clip itself is ejected. The one on the right is for an SKS, which is an old CommBloc military rifle. It is a "stripper clip", which means that it is not thrust into the magazine itself, but guides the cartridges in. HERE is a quick Youtube clip showing how it is used.

Here is a magazine for a .45 caliber pistol. The cartridges are pressed down into it - see the spring? The entire thing is inserted into the grip end of the pistol.

Here is a magazine for an AR-type rifle. The excitement is all about how long this can be made; that is, how many cartridges it can hold, hence how many you can fire before you have to reload. For some reason shooting ten times, reloading, and shooting ten more is regarded by the fearful as more dangerous than shooting twenty without a reload. I cannot actually say why.

Obviously there's no point in regulating the size of clips, because they're only there to help load a magazine whose size does not vary. Magazines, however, can vary widely in capacity. Hope all this helps. :-)

[Kenny Bunk]

You missed the all time journalistic favorite: Automatic Revolver:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va6KHE0jEFc

I had no idea so many reporters were familiar with the olde Webley-Fosbery. To be fair, many reporters sympathize with those of us who keep rifles for duck hunting.