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Posted on 04/23/2013 1:09:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
To borrow a line from Dennis Green, they are who we thought they were.
From his hospital bed, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has acknowledged his role in planting the explosives near the marathon finish line on April 15, the officials said. The first successful large-scale bombing in the post-Sept. 11, 2001, era, the Boston attack killed three people and wounded more than 250 others.
The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation, said Dzhokhar and his older brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed by police as the two attempted to avoid capture, do not appear to have been directed by a foreign terrorist organization.
Rather, the officials said, the evidence so far suggests they were self-radicalized through Internet sites and U.S. actions in the Muslim world. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has specifically cited the U.S. war in Iraq, which ended in December 2011 with the removal of the last American forces, and the war in Afghanistan, where President Obama plans to end combat operations by the end of 2014.
Obama has made repairing U.S. relations with the Islamic world a foreign policy priority, even as he has expanded drone operations in Pakistan and other countries, which has inflamed Muslim public opinion.
Bad news for liberal narratives in one sense, but good in another: Theyve been grasping for ways to say its not them, its us and now theyve got an easy one, Obamas stewardship of Afghanistan notwithstanding. Beats the current leading theory about Tamerlan Tsarnaev possibly having taken too many punches to the face, no?
As for how they learned to make the bombs, watch Pete Williams below. Truth, or a lie designed to throw the feds off the scent of whoever might have trained them? Well, go back to this post from last Tuesday, two days before the bombers were identified. Intelwire had already raised an eyebrow at the fact that pressure-cooker bombs were used, since there had been articles in Inspire on how to build that sort of device. The Jawa Report also noted that Naser Jason Abdo, the would-be Fort Hood bomber, got caught with pressure cookers and other bomb materials in his hotel room when he was pinched in 2011. Also found in the room: A copy of Inspire. I remember people giggling when the magazine debuted because the bomb-making instructions were entitled, How to Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom, but it worked. The man responsible for it, Samir Khan, is long since dead in a U.S. airstrike but not as the primary target. He was killed by the same missile that took out his pal, Anwar al-Awlaki, whom some think came up with the idea for Inspire. Bottom line: Yeah, its quite possible that Tsarnaevs telling the truth about how they learned bombmaking. Abdo apparently took the same path. He just never made it as far as they did.
Exit question, in the spirit of lefty fingerpointing at tea partiers: Does this mean the anti-war movements guilty by association?
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Update: Possibly significant:
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the elder brother suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, bought two large pyrotechnic devices in February from a New Hampshire branch of a national fireworks chain, according to executives at the chains parent company.
William Weimer, a vice president of Phantom Fireworks, said the elder Mr. Tsarnaev on Feb. 6 purchased two Lock and Load reloadable mortar kits at the companys Seabrook, N.H. store, just over the border from Massachusetts. Each kit contains a tube and 24 shells, he said. Mr. Tsarnaev paid cash for the kits, which cost $199.99 apiece.
Cops are wondering if they used the powder from the fireworks to power the bombs, but the manufacturer thinks there wasnt enough of it in two kits to generate explosions that big. Even so, go read this Boston Globe report from late March about a mysterious series of explosions in Hanover, Massachusetts involving homemade devices and flash powder. Actual quote from a local cop: It appears there is someone experimenting with making these devices. The explosions happened on March 12 and 15; on March 20, a friend of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev tweeted to him that hed heard hed been poppen fireworks. Hmmmm.
The Marxist/socialist left encourages this crap with their communist inspired anti-America, so-called “anti-war” propaganda!!
I think daddya and mommy are just like the sons. Muslim terrorists...just on the management end.
Mom said the older one did a lot of skyping. Wonder if momma and pappa STILL have the computer.
“The Marxist/socialist left encourages this crap with their communist inspired anti-America, so-called anti-war propaganda!!”
Actually, they’re much more dangerous to the country when the join the Democratic party and read “Rules for Radicals.” I suspect Bill Ayers has done much more damage as an “educator” than he did with his bombs. It’s just quieter damage, like rust-through on the frame rails of you car.
“who was killed by police”
I thought he was killed by his brother driving over him and dragging his body down the street
Jahar: Tamerlan made me do it.
Dennis Green: The United States made Tamerlan do it.
David Horowitz (Author)
The American Spectator article simply refers to them as Utipionists....FR Thread:
I think David's views are closer to the current truth.
Well, the tweets blow Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s story to hell. He knew about the plans long before one week.
There was twitter reports (and screen shots) taking responsibility of the Globe report.
This is the original story with more info.
If this is true, then why was The saudi there? coincidence?
Ah Ha! Bush’s fault again!
Anther push leftist agenda headline eh.
You know what this PC crap reminds me of?
To the liberals the dogma that “Being muslim doesn’t make you a terrorist” is just as ingrained as the one that says “Being gay doesn’t make you a pedophile”.
Never mind that this flies in the face of common sense, experience and hundreds if not thousands of news stories.
It’s what they believe. Go figure.
Of course I don’t mean to imply that all muslims are terrorists and all gays are pedophiles!
What I am saying of course is that there is a linkage that is obvious to most if not all of us here but that the liberals will go to their graves denying.
what Iraq war?
the one obama ended?
who was supporting his lavish lifestyle and education at some very expensive schools??
Good question,....looks like to me someone was supplying jihad money.
This Jester guy has some really, really good stuff, a must read for anyone interested in who Dzhokhar was connected with. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3011454/posts?page=11#11
Poor victims of American colonialism.
In other words, he has not told them anything significant yet. The guy tried to kill himself. You wont get anything out of him.
Exactly. We are not at war with anyone right now. War means you use everything you got. What we have been doing are police actions.
“Exactly. We are not at war with anyone right now. War means you use everything you got. What we have been doing are police actions.”
Your probably right about that, although in all honestly I fear we don’t have the tools necessary to win this war, we certainty don’t have the moral fortitude.
You can’t defeat an idea with arms, you have to uses other ideas and frankly that’s a campaign the Federal Government is not only ill-equipment to wage their ideologically unwilling to wage it at least when it comes to the only meaningful battlefield Islamic foreigners.
We would need to pressure Islamic governments(with-whom we have dwindling influence) into changing their educational curriculum to teach only peaceful Islam. We would also have to stage a advertisement & cultural campaign selling the same message in their countries.
All this could be done and it would be rather cheap compared overthrowing regimes, but Washington is not willing to do that.
He is lying. He is a liar and he is lying to non-Muslims because that is what Muslims do to protect Islam.
Well, stune my beeber. Damn Utipionists.
“Tsarnaevs motivated by opposition to Iraq and Afghan wars”
So why not work for Kucinich or Ron Paul? Or volunteer for Obama’s first campaign?
But wait, they were Chechens that led normal lives here in America, no? So, if their identification with Islam is not the connection here, then one can only conclude that the inflamed rhetoric of the left is to blame.
Exactly. The closest thing to that approach was taken by the last Pope and even he was induced to backtrack. He was optimally politically positioned to not backtrack but backtrack he did.
He could have told the world to shove it - that he was going to stick to his position and nobody could have done a damn thing about it. But that’s not what ended up happening. So what’s the chance that a conventional politician could go further? I mean Putin could, the chicom guy maybe could but that’s probably the end of a very short list.
In time non-muslim leaders will have to face reality. Of course the death toll will have to get a great deal higher.
My fear is how many of our christian freedoms they will cut down before that happens