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Report: Tsarnaevs motivated by opposition to Iraq and Afghan wars, Al-Queda online Mag .....
Hot Air ^ | 1:21 pm on April 23, 2013 | Allahpundit

Posted on 04/23/2013 1:09:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

To borrow a line from Dennis Green, they are who we thought they were.

From his hospital bed, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has acknowledged his role in planting the explosives near the marathon finish line on April 15, the officials said. The first successful large-scale bombing in the post-Sept. 11, 2001, era, the Boston attack killed three people and wounded more than 250 others.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation, said Dzhokhar and his older brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed by police as the two attempted to avoid capture, do not appear to have been directed by a foreign terrorist organization.

Rather, the officials said, the evidence so far suggests they were “self-radicalized” through Internet sites and U.S. actions in the Muslim world. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has specifically cited the U.S. war in Iraq, which ended in December 2011 with the removal of the last American forces, and the war in Afghanistan, where President Obama plans to end combat operations by the end of 2014.

Obama has made repairing U.S. relations with the Islamic world a foreign policy priority, even as he has expanded drone operations in Pakistan and other countries, which has inflamed Muslim public opinion.

Bad news for liberal narratives in one sense, but good in another: They’ve been grasping for ways to say “it’s not them, it’s us” and now they’ve got an easy one, Obama’s stewardship of Afghanistan notwithstanding. Beats the current leading theory about Tamerlan Tsarnaev possibly having taken too many punches to the face, no?

As for how they learned to make the bombs, watch Pete Williams below. Truth, or a lie designed to throw the feds off the scent of whoever might have trained them? Well, go back to this post from last Tuesday, two days before the bombers were identified. Intelwire had already raised an eyebrow at the fact that pressure-cooker bombs were used, since there had been articles in “Inspire” on how to build that sort of device. The Jawa Report also noted that Naser Jason Abdo, the would-be Fort Hood bomber, got caught with pressure cookers and other bomb materials in his hotel room when he was pinched in 2011. Also found in the room: A copy of “Inspire.” I remember people giggling when the magazine debuted because the bomb-making instructions were entitled, “How to Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom,” but it worked. The man responsible for it, Samir Khan, is long since dead in a U.S. airstrike — but not as the primary target. He was killed by the same missile that took out his pal, Anwar al-Awlaki, whom some think came up with the idea for “Inspire.” Bottom line: Yeah, it’s quite possible that Tsarnaev’s telling the truth about how they learned bombmaking. Abdo apparently took the same path. He just never made it as far as they did.

Exit question, in the spirit of lefty fingerpointing at tea partiers: Does this mean the anti-war movement’s guilty by association?

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Update: Possibly significant:

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the elder brother suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, bought two large pyrotechnic devices in February from a New Hampshire branch of a national fireworks chain, according to executives at the chain’s parent company.

William Weimer, a vice president of Phantom Fireworks, said the elder Mr. Tsarnaev on Feb. 6 purchased two “Lock and Load” reloadable mortar kits at the company’s Seabrook, N.H. store, just over the border from Massachusetts. Each kit contains a tube and 24 shells, he said. Mr. Tsarnaev paid cash for the kits, which cost $199.99 apiece.

Cops are wondering if they used the powder from the fireworks to power the bombs, but the manufacturer thinks there wasn’t enough of it in two kits to generate explosions that big. Even so, go read this Boston Globe report from late March about a mysterious series of explosions in Hanover, Massachusetts involving homemade devices and “flash powder.” Actual quote from a local cop: “It appears there is someone exper­imenting with making these devices.” The explosions happened on March 12 and 15; on March 20, a friend of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev tweeted to him that he’d heard he’d been “poppen fireworks.” Hmmmm.


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Report: Tsarnaevs motivated by opposition to Iraq and Afghan wars, learned how to build bombs from Al Qaeda online magazine; Update: Bought “fireworks” in February


1 posted on 04/23/2013 1:09:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: IsraelBeach; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; justa-hairyape; onyx; NormsRevenge; SunkenCiv; blam; ...

fyi


2 posted on 04/23/2013 1:11:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Marxist/socialist left encourages this crap with their communist inspired anti-America, so-called “anti-war” propaganda!!


3 posted on 04/23/2013 1:12:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They're Muslims. They were brought up on it. Mommy and daddy are Muslims and recently went BACK to their hellhole. Imagine that...Talk about timing. We can't touch them.

I think daddya and mommy are just like the sons. Muslim terrorists...just on the management end.

Mom said the older one did a lot of skyping. Wonder if momma and pappa STILL have the computer.

4 posted on 04/23/2013 1:16:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jim Robinson

“The Marxist/socialist left encourages this crap with their communist inspired anti-America, so-called “anti-war” propaganda!!”

Actually, they’re much more dangerous to the country when the join the Democratic party and read “Rules for Radicals.” I suspect Bill Ayers has done much more damage as an “educator” than he did with his bombs. It’s just quieter damage, like rust-through on the frame rails of you car.


5 posted on 04/23/2013 1:17:39 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Since 1972, 3,101 killed by Muslims in America in 70 terror attacks..............and he bows to them


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6 posted on 04/23/2013 1:22:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“who was killed by police”

I thought he was killed by his brother driving over him and dragging his body down the street


7 posted on 04/23/2013 1:22:36 PM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Jahar: Tamerlan made me do it.

Dennis Green: The United States made Tamerlan do it.


8 posted on 04/23/2013 1:22:49 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I am a serious believer in what David Horowitz says in his book,. Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam And the American Left [Paperback]

David Horowitz (Author)

The American Spectator article simply refers to them as Utipionists....FR Thread:

Jihad Blows Up the Liberal Utopia

I think David's views are closer to the current truth.

9 posted on 04/23/2013 1:25:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, the tweets blow Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s story to hell. He knew about the plans long before one week.


10 posted on 04/23/2013 1:26:30 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There was twitter reports (and screen shots) taking responsibility of the Globe report.

http://jesterscourt.cc/2013/04/23/boston-marathon-bombing-just-a-hunch/


11 posted on 04/23/2013 1:28:33 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: DJ MacWoW
Thank you very much, DJ MacWoW!


12 posted on 04/23/2013 1:29:16 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: HollyB

This is the original story with more info.


13 posted on 04/23/2013 1:31:05 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"said Dzhokhar and his older brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed by police as the two attempted to avoid capture, do not appear to have been directed by a foreign terrorist organization."

If this is true, then why was The saudi there? coincidence?

14 posted on 04/23/2013 1:34:38 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
MIDHAT MURSI An Egyptian chemist, Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Omar has allegedly overseen al-Qaeda's efforts to develop chemical and biological weapons. Also known as Abu Khabab, he left Egypt to fight the Soviets in the 1980s. A fellow mujahideen says he was slow to join al-Qaeda because he disagreed with the group's central strategy and was not an ally of Ayman al-Zawahiri, but changed his mind in part because he needed the money. Mursi was a trainer at al-Qaeda's Derunta camp in Afghanistan when it was set up in the late 1990s. In addition to teaching courses on conventional explosives, he wrote manuals on how to make toxic weapons and conducted a variety of experiments as part of Project al-Zabadi, or "curdled milk". The US believes he may be living in Pakistan, although other reports suggest he escaped to the Pankisi Gorge in the Caucasus region in 2001. US intelligence officials do not believe he occupies a senior leadership position. ******************** EXCERPT: In the 1990s and 2000s Chechnya was the scene of two bloody wars between separatist rebels and Russian troops. Nowadays it is Chechnya's neighbours in the Caucasus, notably Dagestan, which are struggling to shake off an Islamist rebellion. Since the turn of the century a series of deadly terror attacks within Russia have been blamed on Islamist militants based in the Caucasus./ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22255533
15 posted on 04/23/2013 1:36:53 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ah Ha! Bush’s fault again!


16 posted on 04/23/2013 1:37:07 PM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Anther push leftist agenda headline eh.


17 posted on 04/23/2013 1:41:44 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You know what this PC crap reminds me of?

To the liberals the dogma that “Being muslim doesn’t make you a terrorist” is just as ingrained as the one that says “Being gay doesn’t make you a pedophile”.

Never mind that this flies in the face of common sense, experience and hundreds if not thousands of news stories.

It’s what they believe. Go figure.


18 posted on 04/23/2013 1:42:57 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Of course I don’t mean to imply that all muslims are terrorists and all gays are pedophiles!

What I am saying of course is that there is a linkage that is obvious to most if not all of us here but that the liberals will go to their graves denying.


19 posted on 04/23/2013 1:44:06 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

what Iraq war?

the one obama ended?


20 posted on 04/23/2013 1:48:37 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

who was supporting his lavish lifestyle and education at some very expensive schools??


21 posted on 04/23/2013 1:52:44 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

Good question,....looks like to me someone was supplying jihad money.


22 posted on 04/23/2013 2:01:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: HollyB

This Jester guy has some really, really good stuff, a must read for anyone interested in who Dzhokhar was connected with. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3011454/posts?page=11#11


23 posted on 04/23/2013 2:19:44 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Poor victims of American colonialism.


24 posted on 04/23/2013 2:25:50 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...the evidence so far suggests they were “self-radicalized” through Internet sites and U.S. actions in the Muslim world.

In other words, he has not told them anything significant yet. The guy tried to kill himself. You wont get anything out of him.

25 posted on 04/23/2013 3:32:49 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

26 posted on 04/23/2013 3:34:39 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Monorprise

Exactly. We are not at war with anyone right now. War means you use everything you got. What we have been doing are police actions.


27 posted on 04/23/2013 3:35:16 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

“Exactly. We are not at war with anyone right now. War means you use everything you got. What we have been doing are police actions.”

Your probably right about that, although in all honestly I fear we don’t have the tools necessary to win this war, we certainty don’t have the moral fortitude.

You can’t defeat an idea with arms, you have to uses other ideas and frankly that’s a campaign the Federal Government is not only ill-equipment to wage their ideologically unwilling to wage it at least when it comes to the only meaningful battlefield Islamic foreigners.

We would need to pressure Islamic governments(with-whom we have dwindling influence) into changing their educational curriculum to teach only peaceful Islam. We would also have to stage a advertisement & cultural campaign selling the same message in their countries.

All this could be done and it would be rather cheap compared overthrowing regimes, but Washington is not willing to do that.


28 posted on 04/23/2013 4:08:38 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest.


29 posted on 04/23/2013 4:19:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He is lying. He is a liar and he is lying to non-Muslims because that is what Muslims do to protect Islam.


30 posted on 04/23/2013 6:04:24 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, stune my beeber. Damn Utipionists.


31 posted on 04/23/2013 6:21:46 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Tsarnaevs motivated by opposition to Iraq and Afghan wars”

So why not work for Kucinich or Ron Paul? Or volunteer for Obama’s first campaign?


32 posted on 04/23/2013 6:24:32 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

But wait, they were Chechens that led normal lives here in America, no? So, if their identification with Islam is not the connection here, then one can only conclude that the inflamed rhetoric of the left is to blame.


33 posted on 04/23/2013 6:30:08 PM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: Monorprise

Exactly. The closest thing to that approach was taken by the last Pope and even he was induced to backtrack. He was optimally politically positioned to not backtrack but backtrack he did.

He could have told the world to shove it - that he was going to stick to his position and nobody could have done a damn thing about it. But that’s not what ended up happening. So what’s the chance that a conventional politician could go further? I mean Putin could, the chicom guy maybe could but that’s probably the end of a very short list.


34 posted on 04/23/2013 6:52:37 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

In time non-muslim leaders will have to face reality. Of course the death toll will have to get a great deal higher.

My fear is how many of our christian freedoms they will cut down before that happens


35 posted on 04/23/2013 7:13:00 PM PDT by Monorprise
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