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Twin Cities Radio Host Gets Heat For Telling Newtown Families "Go To Hell"
StarTribune.com ^ | April 24, 2013 | Paul Walsh

Posted on 04/24/2013 4:44:11 AM PDT by Biggirl

Bob Davis of KTCN is being offered a free trip to Newtown, Conn., to repeat what he said on the air about the victims’ families.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: davis; guncontrol; newtown; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/24/2013 4:44:11 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

They are being used but he needs to wise up.


2 posted on 04/24/2013 4:48:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Biggirl

what a maroon


3 posted on 04/24/2013 4:48:52 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Biggirl

The Newton families who cooperated with Obama to politicize the deaths of their children are completely wrong, but to tell them to go to hell lowers one to the level at which they are operating. Two wrongs don’t make a right.


4 posted on 04/24/2013 4:49:12 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Biggirl

...this individual claiming that the loss of his liberties supercedes the loss suffered by the parents has reserved for himself a very long, very arduous purgation before he can ever see the joys of heaven...


5 posted on 04/24/2013 4:51:28 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Biggirl

I can’t disagree with that statement. My heart aches for their loss but I bear no guilt and I won’t sacrifice my rights to make them feel better.


6 posted on 04/24/2013 4:51:46 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Biggirl
He said...

“I have something I want to say to the victims of Newtown or any other shooting, I don’t care if it’s here in Minneapolis or anyplace else: Just because a bad thing happened to you doesn’t mean that you get to put a king in charge of my life. I’m sorry that you suffered a tragedy, but you know what? Deal with it, and don’t force me to lose my liberty, which is a greater tragedy than your loss."

I have to agree with him.

7 posted on 04/24/2013 4:52:33 AM PDT by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: Biggirl

I’m sure his sentiment is shared by many. Maybe they are being used, and maybe they are aligned and complicit.

I have no problem telling Obama, Cuomo, Malloy, and all the other gun grabbers “Go to hell.”


8 posted on 04/24/2013 4:53:07 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Biggirl

Not a smart move, Mr Davis. They’re all lib-dem White Hut/Crib tools now, but there was a much better way to say it, and you FAILed.


9 posted on 04/24/2013 4:56:53 AM PDT by carriage_hill (No one can go back and make a new start, but anyone can start from now, and make a new ending.)
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To: rw4site
Liberals can not handle the truth.
10 posted on 04/24/2013 4:56:57 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: rw4site
So he never actually said “Go to Hell!” That's just media exaggeration and embellishment?

Color me surprised.

Not.

11 posted on 04/24/2013 4:57:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
He said it...

Follow the link for his full statement...

12 posted on 04/24/2013 5:00:28 AM PDT by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: rw4site

No argument from here.


13 posted on 04/24/2013 5:00:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: rw4site

If that is his statement then I agree with him 100%.

Nothing like the Media embellishing his statement and lying about his true words.The Media is an Obama tool.


14 posted on 04/24/2013 5:00:45 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Biggirl

He’s got a point, although I would have put it a bit differently. I would have simply told the parents that no matter how many guns get taken away, their kids will not come back and there’s no sense wrecking the country over their loss.


15 posted on 04/24/2013 5:02:11 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Third Person

I have no problem telling Obama, Cuomo, Malloy, and all the other gun grabbers “Go to hell.”

...the entire point of the article hinges on the parents of the slain, not political warriors...the issue is whether inflammatory political rhetoric should be aimed in such a diffident manner at those who don’t deal in politics, but who are at the most vulnerable point in their lives...

...I think he should take the offer to go to Newtown and repeat what he said...I’d have more respect for him...


16 posted on 04/24/2013 5:02:54 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Biggirl

Someone needs to inform these families that if the wacko couldn’t get guns he could have most likely killed by fire or explosives which BTW has happened quite a few times before, the worst being the Bath school bombing in 1927 which killed 38 kids. The problem is not guns, the problem is wackos and liberals who allow them to run amok. I can’t even count the amount of times I read stories of kids assaulting teachers yet if the teacher touches one little hair on a kid, the school gets sued and the teacher fired. This psychotic little pr*ck who killed all these kids in Newton, I don’t even have to guess they had problems with this kid before which of course the communist propaganda machine posing as our media completely ignores, yet absolutely nothing was done most likely because of again liberals.


17 posted on 04/24/2013 5:03:49 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Biggirl

While the “go to hell” remark was clearly inappropriate, the rest of his remarks were absolutely 100% right on.


18 posted on 04/24/2013 5:04:13 AM PDT by Marathoner (Anyone who believes in liberty and the Constitution has almost zero representation in DC today)
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To: BobL

I would have simply told the parents that no matter how many guns get taken away, their kids will not come back and there’s no sense wrecking the country over their loss.

...I’m sure there’s nothing impeding you from doing just that...


19 posted on 04/24/2013 5:04:44 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Alas Babylon!
"“I’m sick and tired of seeing these victims trotted out, given rides on Air Force One, hauled into the Senate well, and everyone is … terrified of these victims. I would stand in front of them and tell them, ‘Go to hell.’ ”

He said in essence that the families of the children are being used to try to politically intimidate the opposition. And, if he were in a position wherein the they were being used to try to intimidate him, he would tell them to "Go to hell." Bottom line? He did NOT tell them to "Go to hell."

20 posted on 04/24/2013 5:06:39 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: IrishBrigade
...this individual claiming that the loss of his liberties supercedes the loss suffered by the parents...

I do not think that anyone will condone this man's unwise statement about the Newtown victims' families, but you must understand that there would be many more tragedies that would follow upon the loss of the abilities of the people who could not defend themselves from a tyrannical government. The man does have a point, he just didn't state it well.

21 posted on 04/24/2013 5:07:01 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: IrishBrigade

“...I’m sure there’s nothing impeding you from doing just that...”

Lack of a microphone. We’ve already lost way too many freedoms due to parents try to avenge the deaths of their kids...often (though not here) because of stupid things their kids did.

I don’t like making policy that way...but I guess others don’t mind.


22 posted on 04/24/2013 5:07:02 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: riverrunner; rw4site
Sandy Hook father speaks...nails it!
23 posted on 04/24/2013 5:07:07 AM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Biggirl

You just don’t tell parents of dead children to go to hell. Basic humanity 101.


24 posted on 04/24/2013 5:07:07 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: rw4site

Deal with it, and don’t force me to lose my liberty, which is a greater tragedy than your loss.”

I have to agree with him.

...you agree that if he has to go through the tragedy of a background check when he purchases a firearm, said tragedy supercedes the tragedy of these parents losing their children...that’s what you’re saying...?


25 posted on 04/24/2013 5:09:20 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Venturer

Is it me noticing or are more and more ‘Conservatives’ putting ‘FEELINGS” over “FREEDOM” lately?

It it time for more ‘impolite’ speech when these bastards conspire to do what they do. I have lost family. Most have and many in bad circumstances.

IT DOES NOT GIVE A-N-Y VICTIMS SUPERCONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS or shield them from the harsh language of truth when they pull this crap.


26 posted on 04/24/2013 5:11:01 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: IrishBrigade

Losing a child doesn’t give one moral and legal superiority. Aligning yourself with gun grabbing sleaze bags does not engender sympathy.

If these parents continue with their “advocacy” the goodwill towards them will evaporate.


27 posted on 04/24/2013 5:11:31 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Enterprise

I really think blowhards who say things like this behind a microphone or the internet are candy assed cowards. Go up to one of the fathers or older brothers and say that to their face. He’d be seeing an orthopedic surgeon in a hot second.


28 posted on 04/24/2013 5:12:25 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Biggirl

The “go to Hell” remark should also have been directed to those politicians using the families to further their agenda.


29 posted on 04/24/2013 5:13:44 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Blackirish
"You just don’t tell parents of dead children to go to hell."

He didn't. He said what he would say if the parents were to be used to try to intimidate him.

30 posted on 04/24/2013 5:13:47 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Biggirl

They are being used as pawns and are doing the country no good. We are all sorry for their horrific lose. Those seeking a public forum must realize that many don’t agree with them and they should be prepared for a backlash.


31 posted on 04/24/2013 5:13:55 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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32 posted on 04/24/2013 5:14:31 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: IrishBrigade

“...you agree that if he has to go through the tragedy of a background check when he purchases a firearm, said tragedy supercedes the tragedy of these parents losing their children...that’s what you’re saying...?”

You Brits are TOTALLY CLUELESS on our Constitution and why we have a Second Amendment.

Why are you even here. You’ll find other websites MUCH MORE accommodating to your Government-Knows-Best viewpoint.

By the way, you might want to read this article on your Sharia Courts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3011637/posts

We don’t need YOUR CRAP in this country - we fought a war to get away from this deranged thinking.


33 posted on 04/24/2013 5:15:05 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: rw4site

His statement is well thought out and I agree 100% except “Go to hell” wasn’t necessary. A liberal talk host would’ve easily gotten away with “Go to hell” if referenced to any conservative man, woman or child and actually do on a regular basis.


34 posted on 04/24/2013 5:16:33 AM PDT by albie (s)
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To: OldPossum

The man does have a point, he just didn’t state it well.

...of course we’re all aware of that, nobody disputes that...however, unwise, stupid statements will trump valid points every time, and the loss of further discussion arising from the stupidity leads to further mistrust and misinformation...not ‘stating something well’ when you have the ability to do otherwise is criminal in its own way...


35 posted on 04/24/2013 5:17:25 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Norm Lenhart

Right on, right on!


36 posted on 04/24/2013 5:18:38 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: IrishBrigade
the entire point of the article hinges on the parents of the slain, not political warriors...

Once they enter the political arena and start exploiting their tragedies to attack my rights, then they forfit every iota of sympathy. No one forced them to attack our right to keep and bear arms. They sold their children's deaths for a ride in air force one and a vacation to DC to stand behind the turd in the white house. I agree they can go to hell. And I'd gladly tell them exactly that face to face.

37 posted on 04/24/2013 5:19:08 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Biggirl

He’s absolutely right....they are being used for political expediency but this is a no win situation.


38 posted on 04/24/2013 5:20:17 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Third Person

I cannot BEGIN to tell you how sick and frustrated I am with supposed conservatives on FR acting and using the same talking points/language as liberals on all kinds of subjects.

I’m about to just call myself an independent because conservative is rapidly following Republican into liberalism.


39 posted on 04/24/2013 5:22:36 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Blackirish

What he said was very upsetting to people. Personally, I am livid about the Democrats using these people to try to intimidate Senators into voting for gun control. In addition, Obama is now going to sign an executive order banning the import of arms and ammunition. The parents of the kids are another instance of the Democrats exploiting the victims. And, when the statement is analyzed, he did not tell the parents to go to hell.


40 posted on 04/24/2013 5:23:24 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Infiltration.


41 posted on 04/24/2013 5:23:48 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Third Person

Some yes. But it’s mostly reactionary BS just like the libs they bitch about. Most people forgot how to think through a given issue.

If they ever knew how at all. See all the “Purists are killing conservatism” threads for details.


42 posted on 04/24/2013 5:26:46 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

This was a real non-story here until the Strib decided that more than one sponsor should cancel their ads on the station. Thet are the only one running with this story.


43 posted on 04/24/2013 5:31:31 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (DONATE!!)
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To: Biggirl

Using victims of tragedy for political purposes is standard operating procedure for the left. We saw it with Cindy Sheehan, the 9/11 Jersey Girls, Trayvon Martin’s parents,and on and on. The idea is that they can be used to advance an agenda, making those who would challenge or criticize them seem heartless. Liberals are driven by their emotions, instead of what is true and right.


44 posted on 04/24/2013 5:32:58 AM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Compassionate Bush-style “conservatism” is alive and well.


45 posted on 04/24/2013 5:33:00 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: BobL

You Brits are TOTALLY CLUELESS on our Constitution and why we have a Second Amendment.

...as far as I know, I’ve never been to Britain...

We don’t need YOUR CRAP in this country - we fought a war to get away from this deranged thinking.

...why are you shouting? Can’t you discuss something without raising your voice? You remind me of my brother in law...and we fought a war because of what I think? I missed that in the history books...

...let me rephrase, perhaps we can share a breakthrough moment...let’s say you have a child who is senselessly murdered, and rightfully enraged, you go to purchase a firearm for the laudable purpose of defending other children...the seller tells you that it won’t be as simple as it used to be, what with waiting and paperwork and other governmental stuff...you eventually get your gun...and some time later you look back on the situation, and you count the administrative bungling as the greater imposition to your life than the murder of your child...

...this is what the talk show host is saying...


46 posted on 04/24/2013 5:33:29 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: from occupied ga

I agree they can go to hell. And I’d gladly tell them exactly that face to face.

...and the wonderful thing about the freedoms we have in this country is that you are absolutely unimpeded from doing just that...


47 posted on 04/24/2013 5:36:09 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Biggirl

Of course, his words wouldn’t even be reported at all, if he hadn’t said that. Everything else he said makes too much sense.

I do think some Conservatives throw calculated bombs into their statements, just so that SOME of what they’re saying can get coverage. I am not sure that this is the case here, or maybe he wishes he could have bitten his tongue.


48 posted on 04/24/2013 5:37:54 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Biggirl

The political world is the political world - that simple.

I remember in the 1990s, Senator Max Cleland was up for re-election (he ultimately lost, thank goodness). He lost 3 limbs in Vietnam and he was a flaming liberal.

I remember President Clinton getting ANGRY that Cleland was being challenged on policy - Clinton was basically saying that political attacks against him should not be permitted, or at least were wrong and unethical. Why? Because he lost 3 limbs in Vietnam.

Well, if Max Cleland wanted to be left alone, he could have simply stayed outside of the political world and I have no doubt that he would have been treated with the kind of respect that any returning hero is treated - but he chose to try to take away my healthcare and my gun rights, so he was fair game.

Likewise with these parents. As far as I know, they are adults, and as far as I know, ANY of them could have said something like “thank you President Obama, but I’d rather stay home in this time of grieving”. But those parents did not take that approach (I know plenty of others did), and instead chose to enter the political arena. They are adults, of sound mind (as far as I can tell), and therefore are FAIR GAME in politics (especially when they try to take away rights in this country), whether it hurts their feelings or not.


49 posted on 04/24/2013 5:39:13 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Third Person

A month back, I fought with several Freepers who demanded moderation on the abortion issue. Months before I fought with several freepers over the border fence when they sided with libs on ‘smart fencing’ Yesterday people were having ‘concerns’ about sending illegals bac whose parents brought them here as kids. I regular go at it with people quoting MSNBC to trash Palin. And I am far from alone.

And all this a regular occurrence on the most right of right wing sites. Jim has a great thing here. But it is infested with psuedocons..

And notice that they usually make the most noise round about freepathon time. I wonder why that would be....


50 posted on 04/24/2013 5:39:25 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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