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Watertown House to House police search

Posted on 04/24/2013 8:15:55 AM PDT by jt2

How is it at all legal for the police to have coerced people from their homes during the house to house search that was conducted in Watertown MA last week?

By 'coerced', I mean being told to leave their residence by police SWAT teams. When you have 10 police pointing rifles at you, yelling at your to get out of your house, I'd consider that coersion.

These people were removed from their homes and forced to go someplace else. It appears that they were not 'allowed' back into their homes for hours.

How is that possible in America?

Were homeowners able to decline having their homes searched?

Were they allowed to remain or return to their homes if they wanted to?

Could they have been arrested for interfering with police work for declining to have their homes search, or for trying to remain in their homes?

This is a major story...that is being ignored by the MSM. If all of that was legal and allowable, then we really have no rights left in this police state that we live in.


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1 posted on 04/24/2013 8:15:55 AM PDT by jt2
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We are being told that because the ACLU has not put up a fight that this was OK.


2 posted on 04/24/2013 8:17:09 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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Public safety.


3 posted on 04/24/2013 8:17:24 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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"They" can do anything for the "common good".
Just ask Nancy.
4 posted on 04/24/2013 8:19:10 AM PDT by grobdriver
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I share this concern. This is EXACTLY why the 4th Amendment exists. The British were forcing themselves into homes at will. This precedent is horrendous and needs to be challenged.


5 posted on 04/24/2013 8:20:07 AM PDT by ilgipper (The lesson for the GOP is simple - don't let the opposition define you)
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To: mbarker12474

“Public Safety”

So, you’re saying it legal for police to remove you from your home, for whatever reason they may come up with that has to do with some il defined “Public Safety”?

Any idea what law this is covered under?


6 posted on 04/24/2013 8:23:14 AM PDT by jt2
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Most excellent point, which I intend to bring up with my congresscritter.


7 posted on 04/24/2013 8:24:45 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: jt2

This was a test case for what is to come. Can anyone say, “False Flag”?


8 posted on 04/24/2013 8:25:06 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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I told you all that all those SWAT teams that were created compliments of your “war” on drugs, were just practicing on the potheads with their Gestapo style raids. Now they are practicing the house to house searches. Should I ruin the surprise and tell you what comes next? Because a lot of people here are going to learn the hard way that leos really aren’t their friends.


9 posted on 04/24/2013 8:25:54 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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It's somewhat ironic that this was in Massachusetts, and the 4th Amendment is in the Bill of Rights specifically because of the behavior of King George's troops in Massachusetts.

If the 4th Amendment is now inoperative, why not house-to-house searches in Chicago to look for illegal guns? More are murdered over a typical Chicago weekend than died as a result of the brothers Tsarnaev's terrorism.

It's for the children, after all.

10 posted on 04/24/2013 8:26:21 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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Should have said, "You don't have a warrant." and then lay down on the floor. I would not submit to being yelled at and forced to run cowering out of my house. Literally, just shoot me. Just like the woman in Russia, I don't care anymore. If they want me out of the house, they can carry me out. If the feel the need to shoot me to do it, so be it. Enough of this.

If you want to stop this, start rounding up MUSLIMS and make them run cowering out of THEIR houses. Otherwise, get it on -- start shooting.

11 posted on 04/24/2013 8:27:24 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

I think it depends on how “reasonable” is defined and who exactly defines it, us or them. There can be considerable asymmetry in how “reasonable” is approached.


12 posted on 04/24/2013 8:27:26 AM PDT by DBrow
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As Emiliano Zapata so correctly said, “Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.”


13 posted on 04/24/2013 8:28:11 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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You would have made a Good German.


14 posted on 04/24/2013 8:30:11 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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Could you have said, “NO!”, and shut your door?

Let them break it down, arrest you, and sue the bastards for failing to have a search warrant + damages + penalties for violating civil rights.


15 posted on 04/24/2013 8:32:55 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: frogjerk
We are being told that because the ACLU has not put up a fight that this was OK.

LOL! Well played.

16 posted on 04/24/2013 8:37:10 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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17 posted on 04/24/2013 8:37:47 AM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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I wonder what happened or would have happened if a home was unoccupied?
Just go to the next or break in?


18 posted on 04/24/2013 8:38:57 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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Who did they ask to leave? I thought they just searched.


19 posted on 04/24/2013 8:39:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
And I'm sure the adrenaline junkies with their body armor and sub machine guns wouldn't put a few rounds into your dog and maybe you if you flinch in a threatening manner.

But you have to support law enforcement! They have shiny badges and are more equal than us lumpen.

20 posted on 04/24/2013 8:40:24 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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