Posted on 04/24/2013 9:18:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The FBI briefed the Senate yesterday and today on the progress in the Boston Marathon bombing case, but more questions than answers may have arisen from it. The Boston Globe quotes multiple sources from within the briefing that the FBI didn’t just get one warning from Russia about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, they got warned repeatedly — including after the FBI’s initial investigation of the now-deceased bomber:
Russian authorities contacted the US government with concerns about Tamerlan Tsarnaev not once but “multiple’’ times, including an alert it sent after he was first investigated by FBI agents in Boston, raising new questions about whether the FBI should have paid more attention to the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, US senators briefed on the investigation said Tuesday.
The FBI has previously said it interviewed Tsarnaev in early 2011 after it was initially contacted by the Russians. In their review, completed in summer 2011, the bureau found no evidence that Tsarnaev was a threat. “The FBI requested but did not receive more specific or additional information from” Russia, the agency said last week.
Following a closed briefing of the Senate Intelligence Committee Tuesday, Senator Richard Burr, a North Carolina Republican, said he believed that Russia alerted the United States about Tsarnaev in “multiple contacts,” including at least once since October 2011.
This brings us back to the question of Tsarnaev’s status on watch lists. The Los Angeles Times reported yesterday that Tsarnaev’s listing had expired during his stay in Dagestan:
An FBI alert on Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the two brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, had expired before he returned from a visit to Russia last year, and he was not flagged for additional screening even though the FBI had interviewed him before the trip, officials said Tuesday.
The alert on Tsarnaev was more than a year old and had expired by the time he returned from six months in Dagestan in mid-2012, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitanotold a senate panel Tuesday. She said she would provide more details in a classified setting.
“By the time he returned, all investigations had been — the matter had been closed,” Napolitano told the Senate Judiciary Committee.
The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev in 2011 after Russian authorities warned that he might have connections to Islamist militant groups. The FBI found no such evidence, however, officials have said.
Again, this seems very odd, especially given the “multiple” warnings from Russia — where one such warning was already considered unusual. The subject of these multiple warnings had traveled to the country which issued them, where he had family in the region where Islamist extremist networks are well known to operate, and at least DHS was aware of that travel. Yet the FBI allowed the listing to expire while Tsarnaev was visiting that particular region?
And here’s another good question from Michael Daly at the Daily Beast:
The FBI did not ignore the vague inquiry from the Russian government about Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Agents duly interviewed him and ran his particulars through the available databases. They seem to have been correct in determining that he did not have any connections with organized terror groups.
But the very fact that the FBI had interviewed Tamerlan back in 2011 presents the possibility, however slight, that the death of another person who was buried Tuesday really might have been prevented.
That other funeral was for MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, and the question is, why the investigators who interviewed Tamerlan did not recognize him before the photos of the bombers were made public.
Agents and cops may forget a name, but they seldom forget a face. And had an investigator exclaimed, “Hey, I know that guy!” the FBI and the Boston cops could have been outside the Tsarnaev home in 15 minutes. Tamerlan and his younger brother, Dzhokhar, might have been grabbed before the public release of their pictures, before they turned so desperate that they walked up to the cruiser where Collier sat and allegedly executed him.
The fact that the Russian warning wasn’t just a “vague inquiry” but multiple alerts makes this an even more pressing question. Tsarnaev lived in Boston for years, remember, and was no tourist terrorist. Are there so many potential Tsarnaevs in Boston that no one could recall this particular face?
The Senate briefing also produced this note of caution from Sen. Saxby Chambliss. The motives may be more “complex” than has been assumed, Chambliss says. While the evidence of guilt is overwhelming, Chambliss tells CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, it may take longer to unwind the Tsarnaev brothers’ intentions for the act of terror:
“As for the ‘why’ of it, that’s going to be a very complex and comprehensive investigation,” Chambliss told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “I’ll be honest, it is not clear even after the interview of the suspect in custody has been conducted. It’s still not clear exactly what did this.”
Perhaps not all of the motivations are yet known or clear, but at least some of them seem to be obvious.
Addendum: At least one local mosque is refusing to hold a funeral service for him, his aunt tells NBC:
A Boston mosque has refused to hold a funeral service for Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the alleged mastermind of the marathon atrocity, his aunt said Wednesday.
Patimat Suleimanova said U.S. authorities had told the family they could have the 26-year-old’s body. Tsarnaev was killed during a shootout with police on Friday.
His 19-year-old brother, Dzohkhar, is still hospitalized and has been charged with helping carry out the attack. His condition improved from serious to fair on Tuesday.
Suleimanova said one of the suspects’ uncles approached the imam of a Boston mosque attended by the brothers to request a burial and funeral service but was declined.
He was untrustworth,....he was a Republican.
In 1982 I met my wife in Austria (I was stationed in Germany). She has many Austrian, German, Hungarian, Polish and Russian (Soviet) relatives. Over the years since, we have visited many of them. (they were broken up after world war II).
In the 80’s they all wanted to come to America. Now? No way. They prefer where they are at. Better economy, and less Pravda. With the internet a solid state item in these countries now, they read American news and have no interest what-so-ever in our country. They feel they would be moving backwards.
Once they had no national pride, but that coin has flipped. The American populace by far distrusts and hates their country, while my in-laws have national confidence and pride.
I don’t have relatives or connections in Spain or Greece, but I imagine the scenario is much different there.
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>>>Burr, the North Carolina senator, contended that the Russians contacted the FBI several times, but the bureau disputed that assertion.
This is something that needs to be addressed. I hope this FBI denial gets pursued-senator Burr, or the FBI is wrong here.<<<
Due to a diplomatic reasons law-enforcement bodies of foreign countries rarely cooperate directly (with the exception of limited exchange via Interpol etc). There are treaties and some organizations in either nation named responsible for cooperation so any other interested official addressing request to a “competent (or concerned or interested) organization of respective nation X” and submits it to their specified home organization for further processing. An idea it to check request for compliance with national interests and international law. Then request is getting sent to similar authorised organization of requested nation which is to decide if it worthy to execute and exact legal bodies to do a job. In case of Russia cooperation probably proceeds via Public prosecutor’s office, for US it might be a Dept of Justice or State (depends on details of request). And idea is to make sure if one side (say Iran rev guards) won’t request other side (say some Michigan county’s deputies) to behead some apostate and they actually do it.
A procedure like that may also mean that FBI could actually not get Russian request at all as soon as Dept of Justice or State could consider it unworthy to execute or send elsewhere.
This will all ultimately be blamed on another Republican - Bush - after all he was President when these folks arrive here and were granted political asylum. The fact that the mother and older brother veered into radical Islam and came to the Government’s attention during the Obama administration will be ignored.
They tried to pin all of 9-11 responsibility on Bush as it “was on his watch” - disregarding all errors of the Clinton administration. This fiasco was truly on Obama’s watch - but he put a blindfold on his administration.
The old limp-leg. "We didn't get enough informaaaaaaaation, they held out on usses!!" </whine>
Someone at FBI knew this guy would eventually be a problem. Whoever it was, sought to insulate the FBI against their perfunctory quick-look's blowing up on them later on.
That's what we have to find out
If our agencies are not sharing information,we need to correct that.
Something one agency decides is not important may be important to another agency.-tom
Actually these rules exist for a reason:
>>>And idea is to make sure if one side (say Iran rev guards) won’t request other side (say some Michigan county’s deputies) to behead some apostate and they actually do it.<<<
Example might be unrealistic and a bit extreme but for example Russians don’t have idea of political correctness and for that reason they can’t execute request to assist US authorities to investigate any hate crime.
If FBI could request Russian local police on a subject they could assist by mistake and it is a violation of Russian national policy.
Same for blasphemy or homosexual activity which might be a crime in one place and non-crime in another. Requesting side might be aware or that difference and be creative with language to confuse either side.
Also KGB may request to watch and interrogate some kind of dissident or defector on given questions and unaware local deputies could intimidate such a person or do intel for the Russians without any knowledge on his real identity.
An idea is to make sure that low-level officials won’t screw up and do something harmful to national interest.
Perhaps more then hope. Handguns, Home Made Grenades and a Rifle with a Large Capacity magazine was what they were supposed to use. The trifecta. Handguns. Gun Powder. Magazines. Oh my.
Now just think what images of two white men shooting up the streets of Boston and killing dozens of people would have done for the Senate Gun Bill Vote.
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