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Boston bomb suspect's name was on classified government watch lists
Reuters ^ | WASHINGTON | Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:56am EDT | Mark Hosenball

Posted on 04/24/2013 12:18:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

(Reuters) - The name of one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was listed on the U.S. government's highly classified central database of people it views as potential terrorists. But the list is so vast that this did not mean authorities automatically kept close tabs on him, sources close to the bombing investigation said on Tuesday.

Tsarnaev, 26, was killed in a police shootout early Friday, while his younger brother Dzhokhar, 19, was captured later that day. Prosecutors say the brothers, ethnic Chechens who had been living in the United States for more than a decade, planted two bombs that exploded near the finish line of the marathon on April 15, killing three people and wounding more than 200.

The sources said Tamerlan Tsarnaev's details were entered into TIDE, a database maintained by the National Counterterrorism Center, because the FBI spoke to him in 2011 while investigating a Russian tip-off that he had become a follower of radical Islamists.

The FBI found nothing to suggest he was an active threat, but all the same placed his name on the "Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment" list. The FBI has not said what it did find about Tsarnaev.

 

But the database, which holds more than half a million names, is only a repository of information on people who U.S. authorities see as known, suspected or potential terrorists from around the world.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boastonmarathon; bostonbombing; bostonjihad; jihad; jihadinamerica; tsarnaev; watchlist

1 posted on 04/24/2013 12:18:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: IsraelBeach; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; justa-hairyape; onyx; NormsRevenge; SunkenCiv; blam; ...

fyi


2 posted on 04/24/2013 12:19:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"But the list is so vast that this did not mean authorities automatically kept close tabs on him"

Efficient gov't at work.

Coming to your healthcare soon.

3 posted on 04/24/2013 12:21:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: All
Half a Million.....oh my.

We sure can't export all of those consumers.

4 posted on 04/24/2013 12:23:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Paladin2

Well,...clearly we don’t have enough workers to go thru these gigantic databases.


5 posted on 04/24/2013 12:24:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is interesting that Hosenball is writing for Reuters, a British news service. In the late 1970’s or early 1980’s, he and CIA marxist turncoat Philip Agee were thrown out of England as national security threats.

Hosenball has specialized in intelligence matters, terrorism, etc. but I have never heard of him being before a congressional committee, under oath, to tell about his known working affiliation with DGI-asset Agee.

Has he turned away from aiding the communists, or is he still sympathetic to them? His access, as noted in this article, to western intelligence systems and tactics raises my antennae.

Any one know if Hosenball has left the Left and poses no threat to us re his reporting on intelligence matters?


6 posted on 04/24/2013 12:25:44 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
But no problema for the IRS to track down 220 million legal taxpayers in 20 seconds, lien your house & bank account in 30 seconds and have an IRS agent at your door on 24 hours or less

DUHHHH!

TIDE and FBI should switch databases.

7 posted on 04/24/2013 12:32:17 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Thanks for the info,...very interesting,.
8 posted on 04/24/2013 12:34:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: All

Forgot to credit The Drudge Report for the link to the article.


9 posted on 04/24/2013 12:38:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If Bush had been president they would have blamed him for not connecting the dots.


10 posted on 04/24/2013 12:41:22 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When was it declassified?


11 posted on 04/24/2013 12:46:52 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; a fool in paradise

Now we can see how the media creates public’s perceptions. All of them. Everybody’s! The Boston incident was a clear consequence of Obama’s worldview and his policies. Who will say it where it counts? Who will repeat it, like they once repeated endlessly the details of the High Crime that they judged to be the Watergate break in?

Nothing’s obvious. Americans must be spoonfed their perceptions by the boobtube hairy talking heads, or else sunrise and sunset don’t register, don’t happen, don’t exist.


12 posted on 04/24/2013 12:47:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What I want to know is, how were 2 supposedly unconnected groups of Muslims with extremist views, the Saudi Al-Harbi and some Saudi friends, in the same spot at the same time as the Tsarnaev terrorist brothers, but supposedly not connected or involved in any way? Given that Al-Harbi was close enough to get himself a bad burn while NOT getting any limbs blown off. How did that happen?

Next, considering Zero’s multiple connections to Al-Harbi, and that the Obama admin instantly began using the “lone wolf” meme, what did Obama know and when did he know it?

Next, where did the money come from that paid for this operation, given that the Tsarnaev’s were supposedly poor enough to live on government assistance, but had nice cars?

I hope our country’s LEO’s are able to operate a real investigation without interference.

13 posted on 04/24/2013 12:58:28 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

14 posted on 04/24/2013 1:14:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Boston bomb suspect's name was on classified government watch lists

"Classified" is a powerful word.

Occasionally, "classified" means the gov is hiding information because they know US Citizens wouldn't approve of their actions.

For instance, Congress takes lavish vacations on taxpayer money and calls those trips "classified missions".

Draw your own conclusions about why this young man was on a classified gov watch list.

15 posted on 04/24/2013 1:15:50 PM PDT by LucyT
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” The FBI found nothing to suggest he was an active threat”

Tick....Tick....Tick


16 posted on 04/24/2013 1:18:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: LucyT

Thanks LucyT...this is really getting interesting.

All the connections that are being put together on this is not going to bode well for the won....I wonder if the yellow stream media is going to be able to keep all of this under wraps for their messiah?


17 posted on 04/24/2013 1:23:53 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Tick....Tick....Tick

Yep, thinking the same thing here.

18 posted on 04/24/2013 1:28:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well I would have to admit, TIDE typically gets my cloths pretty clean.


19 posted on 04/24/2013 1:45:13 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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“Fewer than 5 percent of the TIDE entries were U.S. citizens or legal residents, according to a description of the database on the NCTC website.”

5% is about 25,000. Boston metropolitan area is less than about 1-1/2% of the US population, which would equate to less than 400 on the list known as being in the Boston area. The big question is why they didn’t look at the people on the list in the area as a starting point - or did the politically correct rules in place prevent them from looking for people thought by someone to be tied to terrorist - if they were in Zero’s protected group(s). How they couldn’t have matched his pictures from their files to the pictures of suspects raises questions that need to be asked - and answered no matter how embarrassing to Zero and his administration.


20 posted on 04/24/2013 2:09:18 PM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: stuartcr
Don't know that it was....

From this thread,... from CNN... there seem to be multiple data bases.

I think Ruters doesn't have the detail that CNN got into their article...but this whole area of databases seems to be a ripe one for investigation.

More government screwups....Oh....the thread:

Bombing suspect was in security files, but not on watch lists

21 posted on 04/24/2013 2:37:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Marine_Uncle

LOL!


22 posted on 04/24/2013 2:39:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: stuartcr
Messed up the link:

Bombing suspect was in security files, but not on watch lists

23 posted on 04/24/2013 2:41:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: LibertyOh
Good thoughts.

Maybe they did in fact use the data bases once they had gone thru the various data bases.

Course if they had been told to look for Whitee Tea Party members ....they would have gone to different lists.

I am sure someone is buildint that one.

24 posted on 04/24/2013 2:43:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So we have gone from, his name was miss spelled, to he was on our data base, but we did not use our data base.

Maybe we should farm out our government organizational tasks to some phone banks in India. We would get more for our money at least.

25 posted on 04/24/2013 2:48:11 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Missouri gal
What I want to know is, how were 2 supposedly unconnected groups of Muslims with extremist views, the Saudi Al-Harbi and some Saudi friends, in the same spot at the same time as the Tsarnaev terrorist brothers, but supposedly not connected or involved in any way?

If you look at the iconic surveillance image that shows the three Sauds, this is my take on what is going on in that image, just from reading expressions and physical body location.

The two Sauds on the left are puzzled and kinda angry or a little worried and they are gestering or talking to the third Saud on the right. He is the one we suspect was in the hospital and visited by Michelle.

They are also positioned where they can examine the area to the lower section of the image. That is where one of the bombs went off. My guess is something is going wrong. Where are the Chechens ? Or did you see the Chechens and what are they up to. What is going wrong. That is my take.

And if you look at that iconic image, just below and to the right of the Saud we suspect was in the hospital, is an official that appears to be wearing a Boston Fire cap.

All the playerz are there. It is starring us right in the face.

26 posted on 04/24/2013 2:59:21 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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