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7 Reasons Not to Swallow Marco Rubio’s Immigration Snake Oil (Adams rips the bill & Rubio)
PJ Media ^ | April 24, 2013 | J. Christian Adams

Posted on 04/24/2013 12:24:52 PM PDT by jazusamo

The immigration bill pushed by Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) and other members of the Gang of 8 is advertised as a comprehensive reform to secure the border and strengthen the immigration laws before allowing legalization.

Nonsense.

An actual read of the massive bill reveals it as radical legislation which will transform the rule of law and the political future of the nation.

Democrats are desperate to pass the legislation because they long to transform 11 million illegal immigrants and their families into Democrats.

The language of the bill doesn’t do what the proponents say. Instead, the provisions are a witch’s brew of lawlessness, executive discretion, and legalistic trickery crafted by the organized, open-borders left.

Examples of the deception abound.

1. Legalization and Border Insecurity

The bill provides for legalization in six months as soon as the secretary of Department of Homeland Security does another worthless Washington, D.C., review of border security. Almost anyone who has been in the United States illegally since as recently as December 2011 is eligible to legalize. This exposes the public- relations lie of rewarding only those who have put down “roots” in the United States.

Even the last mass amnesty in 1986 required applicants to have been in the United States almost five years.

Proponents say the bill will make us safer because we will know who is here. But the Boston bombers were already living here legally and were operating in plain sight.

In fact, in the bill aliens are eligible for legalization even if they were found by an immigration court to have filed a phony asylum application (page 66). Current law prevents them from obtaining any immigration benefits after they file a phony application.

The bill does not even require DHS to interview those who apply for legalization (page 105). The bill makes it a rubber-stamp approval.

The bill is supposed to protect aliens who live “in the shadows.” But aliens who have been through the court system and were ordered deported but refused to leave will benefit from the bill. (page 75). The bill allows some aliens who have been deported to return and get legalization.

The bill even encourages federal-court lawsuits and gives federal judges broad review powers over individual applications if the DHS dares to deny an alien’s application. This is a prize for the immigration bar who helped draft the bill. Similar to the 1986 amnesty, this provision will weigh down the courts for decades.

2. A False Sense of Security

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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; gangof8; illegals; immigration; norquistdisciple; openborderhack; rubio; rubiolies

1 posted on 04/24/2013 12:24:52 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Poor Marco Rubio. He tried so hard to pretend to be a conservative.

It must have been agonizing for him to wait to reveal his true intentions.

Not that it wasn’t rather obvious to those of us who listened closely to some of his statements.


2 posted on 04/24/2013 12:28:53 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: jazusamo

Judging from things I’ve read/heard lately, looks like Rubio’s true colors are coming out.


3 posted on 04/24/2013 12:29:46 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Keep your eyes on Jesus. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

He probably has a La Raza card.


4 posted on 04/24/2013 12:32:57 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: F15Eagle; MichaelCorleone
Yes, the points Adams brings out about this bill are atrocious and they sure don't speak well for Rubio.
5 posted on 04/24/2013 12:32:58 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: F15Eagle; jazusamo

” Not that it wasn’t rather obvious to those of us who listened closely to some of his statements.”

Or knew/checked his history, and his comrades.


6 posted on 04/24/2013 12:36:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: jazusamo; F15Eagle

Don't Drink the Bong Agua.


7 posted on 04/24/2013 12:39:52 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: jazusamo

8 posted on 04/24/2013 12:40:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: jazusamo

Whatever we do with these people, it would be a GRAVE MISTAKE to ever allow them to vote.


9 posted on 04/24/2013 12:41:56 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Travis McGee

Good one, TM!


10 posted on 04/24/2013 12:43:06 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
Politically dead Rubio’s ain't much fun, they don't play, they don't run!
11 posted on 04/24/2013 12:46:34 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: theBuckwheat

I think most of them are already voting fraudulently and helped re-elect the Muslim Kenyan bastard in the White House.


12 posted on 04/24/2013 12:46:46 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Travis McGee

Good one.


13 posted on 04/24/2013 12:52:43 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: jazusamo
Rubio and his Chief Of Staff are open borders Soros plants disguised as "conservative".

We knew about Rubio's immigration AKA "Dream Act" before Rubio was elected.

Rush had to know too. Still today, Rush says Rubio is conservative...he assured us GW Bush was conservative too... how did that turn out?

14 posted on 04/24/2013 12:53:15 PM PDT by lewislynn ( We bet on the black, it came up red.)
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To: WashingtonSource

It’s possible, I believe, that many of them voted without knowing they voted.


15 posted on 04/24/2013 12:54:00 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“La Raza Marco”


16 posted on 04/24/2013 12:54:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: jazusamo

Wait! Wasn’t Rubio the “anointed” one the GOP back roomers had selected? With positions like this, he won’t make it past the first primary and GOOD RIDDANCE - we don’t need any more juan mclames!


17 posted on 04/24/2013 1:01:06 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: jazusamo

I began to think that Rubio was a flake when I heard about his abuse of a corporate credit card. He paid for a lot of personal expenses on somebody else’s credit card and did not pay it back until after he got caught. No wonder Romney did not chose Rubio as his running mate. Rubio is not trustworthy and probably has other skeletons in his closet.


18 posted on 04/24/2013 1:01:40 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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Please bump the Freepathon or click above and donate or become a monthly donor!

19 posted on 04/24/2013 1:04:27 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Resolute Conservative
He probably has a La Raza card.

Ugh, please don't remind me, I'm in Texas and my Governor is a La Raza fan.
20 posted on 04/24/2013 1:09:32 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: jazusamo
The bill does a good job of creating the illusion of greater security. For example, the bill only requires that the government have 90% control of “high risk border sectors” (where there are 30,000 or more apprehensions per year).

So as long as 27 K are "apprehended", we can rest assured that the border is 90% under control. If quadruple that number are permitted to sneak by, the government can still claim to have established 90% control of the border. How stupid is that?

21 posted on 04/24/2013 1:13:28 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: SkyPilot

22 posted on 04/24/2013 1:15:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: af_vet_rr

I am here too and I cannot help but think Little Ricky is taking a hedge your bets approach and partly thinking that it is inevitable so he might as well play well with others. I hope he would have more gumption and tell them to kiss off, but he is the ultimate professional politician.


24 posted on 04/24/2013 1:29:45 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: forgotten man

I don’t need to get all anti Rubio, but so far as I’m concerned he’s finished as a presidential candidate.

As is anyone who puts their agenda ahead of the true lessons of the Boston bombings.


25 posted on 04/24/2013 1:30:18 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: af_vet_rr

You know he was a democrat back in the day before it was necessary to be a republican to win in Texas...


26 posted on 04/24/2013 1:30:34 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: lewislynn

When the left has infiltrated to destroy from within, every other institution in this nation (starting with academia, the media, government bureaucracy, most lately the Christian church and the military), why would they neglect to infiltrate to destroy the only meaningful opposition party? Why do people think that the very idea is too far-fetched, when it’s exactly what they’ve done with every other important American institution which controls the lives of Americans and steers the direction of the nation either through government or the culture? I do not understand why people don’t think this could be happening.


27 posted on 04/24/2013 1:40:24 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: jazusamo

It’s hard for me to even look at the guy. This bill is a form of treason forever changing if not destroying the US and any pretense it has had to representative government; or sovereignty. This issue alone that is presented in such compassionate dress is the death blow from which there will be no recovery. As bad as seeing big ears declared king.

I despise the argument - we have to do something! We don’t have to do something if it’s the wrong thing. Even my own family that are pretty conservative give me this reply for every area that is screwed up which is intentionally everything. Never in history or even now in almost any other country would something like this even be considered. (I realize it is being forced on white Judeo-Christian western countries the world over) If it wasn’t for my Christian faith and hope in the future apart from this nation I’d be having even bigger difficulties than I already do; I have friends and acquaintances who are either of Mexican background or really anyone who supports this bill of destruction of USA - I don’t want to associate with any longer. I don’t wanna even try and convince them if they can’t see the reality of the consequences. In arguing the case PC rules make one out to be a racist hater and stupid evil person; that is if the person one is talking to can even listen longer than it takes for them to think what a racist evil uncompassionate bigotted close-minded person you must be.

God help us!


28 posted on 04/24/2013 1:53:43 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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To: theBuckwheat

My precinct captain said that illegals vote D, while legals vote R.

I aint buyin it.


29 posted on 04/24/2013 1:56:55 PM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: jazusamo

If this is Rubio’s big entry in politics, then he should find the exit, now.


30 posted on 04/24/2013 2:10:59 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: VRW Conspirator

He can make excuses and talk until he’s blue in the face but after this fiasco he’ll not win me over.


31 posted on 04/24/2013 2:17:33 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Travis McGee
One of my longtime favorites. Violent? Violent?!! I'll show you "violent", Infidel!!
32 posted on 04/24/2013 2:21:08 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: F15Eagle

And his spokesman equated being illegal alien with being a slave. I wonder if it upset some of the black “leaders.”


33 posted on 04/24/2013 2:25:59 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Resolute Conservative; af_vet_rr
You know he was a democrat back in the day before it was necessary to be a republican to win in Texas...

Yes, we're all painfully aware of that in Texas, and that Gov. Perry has a short list of about 290 big-bucks contributors for whom he saves all his gee-ing and haw-ing. If you're not on the list ....

I got beaten up on our Texas state board for taking an "anybody but Perry" line, back in 2011 when Perry was up for reelection as governor. I had a bad feeling the PTB would put him up as a presidential candidate, guaranteeing that their open-borders, internationalist policies would go forward, submerging the State of Texas in low-wage border-jumpers (who are also cultural refuseniks in many places) and guaranteeing that the Democrats would eventually get control of Texas again and lock the GOP out of the White House for the next 200 years.

34 posted on 04/24/2013 2:28:05 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lewislynn

Hannity is on now, still saying what a wonderful honest guy Rubio is. All I can conclude is he has sold out like the rest of them. They have the same info we have, the KNOW.


35 posted on 04/24/2013 2:36:13 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: forgotten man
My goodness, you sound like one of those ‘Bitter Enders’ Grover Norquist warned us about...one of those loathsome
‘restrictionists, who merely think of themselves as conservatives’!

Prepare to be ‘marginalized’!!!! Grover need his amnesty, so get over yourself.

Grover vs. ‘the Bitter Enders’(Grover trying to give Rubio political cover)

[snip] Grover Norquist is known as an anti-tax crusader, but in the coming weeks he will be just as much a pro-immigration crusader, combatting what he calls the “bitter enders” who oppose comprehensive immigration reform. Norquist says that he’s trying to counteract the effect of “a handful of radio talk-show hosts who talk loudly.” “The bitter-enders who are still responding to radio talk-show hosts from eight years ago haven’t noticed that the world has shifted from underneath them,” he says. “The people who need cover are the guys who are still voting like they were Pat Buchanan."

[snip]”In an unlikely pairing, renowned anti-tax activist Grover Norquist stood alongside AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, the leader of the nation’s largest labor coalition. Senators from both parties yukked it up with jokes throughout the hour-long affair.

After the conference ended, Norquist predicted the Gang of Eight would succeed, arguing that opponents like Sessions and Vitter, who sunk the last immigration bill in 2007, have been marginalized. Restrictionists, Norquist said, are people who merely “think of themselves as conservatives...If you’re a Republican, you look at the business community wants it, the religious community wants it,” he told reporters. “Who is the opposition? [snip]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006017/posts

Are you all getting a little tired of being insulted by these political whores on our side of the isle?? It's expected from the other side, but maybe THEY are the other side.

PS...Grover is Rubio & the gang of 8's advisor who is writing this bill along with Rubio's chief of staff, Cesar Conda.

36 posted on 04/24/2013 2:38:15 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
Hannity is on now, still saying what a wonderful honest guy Rubio is. All I can conclude is he has sold out like the rest of them. They have the same info we have, the KNOW.
Hannity (and frankly FOX News) worships at the alter of Beckel, Juan Williams, Joe Lieberman...and Karl Rove to only name a few.

What more needs to be said about Hannity's/FOX News "conservatism"?.

37 posted on 04/24/2013 4:19:19 PM PDT by lewislynn ( We bet on the black, it came up red.)
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To: lewislynn

“What more needs to be said about Hannity’s/FOX News “conservatism”?. “

WEll, I stopped using their commercial advertisers. I hope others will until they say SOMETHING! I’m not surprised they sell out, but a talking head job isn’t worth sacrificing your country over.

SILENCE IS CONSENT!


38 posted on 04/24/2013 4:22:22 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: All

Graphic courtesy of auntb.

39 posted on 04/24/2013 4:24:45 PM PDT by Liz
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To: All
The Boston bomber brothers lived lavishly, drove luxury cars and had the leisure time and money to buy and build deadly bombs...with no visible means of support. Monthly welfare check would not suffice---they had to have several other sources of income.

A look at Tamerlan's reading list on Amazon shows he researched forging phony identities---a practice very common in the latino community.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=1PNVMAW2D4CT1

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NJ BERGEN RECORD CIRCA 2004---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity (many latinos establish multiple identities in order to ride the US gravy train).

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said NJ state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

Several year ago, a TV report concerned a US Post Office somewhere near the Mexican border that was used by illegals to send money home. It was so busy the US Govt. put in several trailers to handle the business.

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The Third World knows massive financial benefits would derive from "immigration reform"......Third world pressure groups exchanging votes for foreign aid---zillions of us tax dollars going straight into the pockets of corrupt third world federales.

THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES W/ PRESSURE GROUPS IN THE US (here illegally sending billions back home): Argentina, Belize, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica Republic, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico (stateside), Salvador, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela.

40 posted on 04/24/2013 4:26:37 PM PDT by Liz
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To: All
REGISTERING TO VOTE AT THE BORDER---MEET OUR NEW DEMOCRATIC VOTERS---Viscious Mexican drug cartels are swarming into the US----beheadings are their calling card. The Mexican drug lords are partners in financial arrangements with Hamas and Hezbollah terorists. They will be empowered to expand those partnerships via The Schumer-Rubio amnesty bill. It’s a small step from blanketing America w/ marijuana and heroin to aiding and abetting Hezbollah terrorist operations. To these hardened criminal, the profit motive rules, no matter the source.

NY POST EXCERPT--- Mexican cartels dispatch agents deep inside US - spread into non-border states

CHICAGO (AP) — Mexican drug cartels whose operatives once rarely ventured beyond the US border are dispatching some of their most trusted agents to live and work deep inside the United States — an emboldened presence that experts believe is meant to tighten their grip on the world's most lucrative narcotics market and maximize profits. If left unchecked, authorities say, the cartels' move into the American interior could render the syndicates harder than ever to dislodge and pave the way for them to expand into other criminal enterprises such as prostitution, kidnapping- and-extortion rackets and money laundering.

Some cartels even have Mexican operatives fill out job applications before being dispatched to the US, Riley added.

In Mexico, the cartels are known for a staggering number of killings — more than 50,000, according to one tally. Beheadings are sometimes a signature. So far, cartels don't appear to be directly responsible for large numbers of slayings in the United States, though the Texas Department of Public Safety reported 22 killings and five kidnappings in Texas at the hands of Mexican cartels from 2010 through mid- 2011. Still, police worry that increased cartel activity could fuel heightened violence.--SNIP--

In Chicago, the police commander who oversees narcotics investigations, James O'Grady, said street-gang disputes over turf account for most of the city's uptick in murders last year, when slayings topped 500 for the first time since 2008.

Although the cartels aren't dictating the territorial wars, they are the source of drugs. Riley's assessment is stark: He argues that the cartels should be seen as an underlying cause of Chicago's disturbingly high murder rate. "They are the puppeteers," he said. "Maybe the shooter didn't know and maybe the victim didn't know that. But if you follow it down the line, the cartels are ultimately responsible."

SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/mexican_cartels_dispatch_agents_ZsKwR5wQCvQvpBXnejs1TJ

41 posted on 04/24/2013 4:28:19 PM PDT by Liz
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To: jazusamo
Sometimes it's the little things like an empty chair that save you from an empty suit's empty promises.

Clint Eastwood did us a favor by overshadowing Rubio's big moment at the GOPe's elect Romney convention.

Had Rubio been able to score the points he was supposed to, the GOP faithful would have been talking about Rubio instead of Clint's empty chair and his efforts for amnesty might have gotten off to a better start.

Too bad, so sad.

42 posted on 04/24/2013 9:12:42 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: jazusamo
Two items not discussed:

(1) “11 million”

There is no limit on how many illegals may apply.

In the 1986 Amnesty, the original number was 750,000.

In 2013, the approved number had reached 3 million, and they are still applying!

(2) “Cannot get government benefits for 10 years”

Total bull.

For example, an Amnesty immigrant loses his job because of a recession.

He has no money, and his family is starving.

Rubio wants us to believe that the GOP presidential candidate is going to campaign in favor of allowing that family to starve.

What bull.

Food and health care assistance will NEVER be denied to these people!

43 posted on 04/24/2013 9:40:57 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: F15Eagle

And to think many people are disappointed that some people opposed the chameleon for POTUSA because of his eligibility credentials.


44 posted on 04/24/2013 9:47:27 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

Yes, that darn thing about an American being President.

And let’s not forget how all the immigrants were “gonna vote conservative”.

And 75% went for Obama.


45 posted on 04/24/2013 9:52:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Resolute Conservative
I am here too and I cannot help but think Little Ricky is taking a hedge your bets approach and partly thinking that it is inevitable so he might as well play well with others. I hope he would have more gumption and tell them to kiss off, but he is the ultimate professional politician.

Perry was supporting a guest worker program years ago. That's the problem - the party is infected with people like Rubio - W. Bush, McCain, Perry, and many others supported one form of amnesty or another over the past decade.

We're going to get amnesty, make no mistake. If Rubio feels confident enough to be out there pushing it, then it's a done deal.
46 posted on 04/24/2013 10:16:56 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: F15Eagle

Treason, it’s not just for Democrats anymore.


47 posted on 04/24/2013 10:19:13 PM PDT by Pelham (Without Deportation you have De Facto Amnesty.)
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To: Liz

BTTT urgently!


48 posted on 04/25/2013 8:02:51 AM PDT by N-R-T (.dang...another gun fell off the boat)
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To: zeestephen
Correct on both points.

The gangof8 know it too as well as most politicians. We're being sold out and it's criminal, IMO.

49 posted on 04/25/2013 9:59:41 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Also see:
LIE of the WEEK! More Norquist Nasties!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3013340/posts


50 posted on 04/28/2013 9:19:09 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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