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Palestinian Christians battle Israel barrier route
Associated Press ^ | Apr 24, 2013 2:51 PM EDT | Diaa Hadid

Posted on 04/24/2013 6:52:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Palestinians in this Christian village are hoping the new pope can succeed where others have failed—pressing Israel to drop plans to build a stretch of its West Bank separation barrier through their picturesque valley.

Since Vatican properties are affected, residents have appealed to the Roman Catholic Church to use more of its significant influence in the Holy Land to reroute the barrier, even as local Catholic leaders hold a special protest Mass in threatened orchards each week. The Vatican has called on Israel not to seize the lands, but local Palestinian Catholics want the new pontiff to lean more heavily on Israel. …

Beit Jala is a postcard-pretty Christian town of 16,000 in the overwhelmingly Muslim West Bank. … Yet the village feels hemmed in. It abuts the biblical town of Bethlehem on one side. On another, barbed wire separates Beit Jala from the Jewish settlement of Har Gilo. …

“If the church stands with us, we would have our land. Israel is scared of the church and her voice,” said Rev. (Ibrahim) Shomali. …

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christianarabs; christians; holyland; palestinians; vatican; westbankbarrier
If these were really Christians, they would not use the name “Palestinian” to describe themselves and they would join with Israel and help them against the Muslims. Shomali’s tone is very anti-Israel, is what I perceive.
1 posted on 04/24/2013 6:52:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

It was one of these self described Palestinian Christians who allegedly became a serial murder of black people in the United States (I say allegedly because I don’t know if the trial is going on and I want to be legally precise).


2 posted on 04/24/2013 6:56:53 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Olog-hai

You are right. And being Christian they would also know that God Himself gave that land to the israelis.


3 posted on 04/24/2013 7:03:32 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

I think it’s very reasonable to assume that the large majority of “Palestinian” Christians are good,decent,respectable people...just as is the case with Arab Christians in general.One would think that Israel might give them special consideration in various matters.of course the Israelis would have to be at least somewhat careful to guard against frauds.


4 posted on 04/24/2013 7:05:21 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Beit Jala is a postcard-pretty Christian town of 16,000 in the overwhelmingly Muslim West Bank

hmmm. what could possibly go wrong?

5 posted on 04/24/2013 7:20:58 PM PDT by RugerMini14
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To: RugerMini14; onyx; firebrand

The PA Takeover of the Church of the Nativity

On April 2, 2002, as Israel implemented its Defensive Shield operation to combat the Palestinian terrorist infrastructure, in Bethlehem "a number of terrorists took over St. Mary's Church grounds and...held the priest and a number of nuns there against their will. The terrorists used the Church as a firing position, from which they shot at IDF soldiers in the area. The soldiers did not return fire toward the church when fired upon [emphasis added]. An IDF force, under the command of the Bethlehem area regional commander, entered the Church grounds today without battle, in coordination with its leaders, and evacuated the priest and nuns."33

That same day, "More than 100 Palestinian gunmen...[including] soldiers and policemen, entered the Church of the Nativity on Tuesday, as Israeli troops swept into Bethlehem in an attempt to quell violence by Palestinian suicide bombers and militias."34 The actual number of terrorists was between 150 and 180, among them prominent members of the Fatah Tanzim. As the New York Times put it, "Palestinian gunmen have frequently used the area around the church as a refuge, with the expectation that Israel would try to avoid fighting near the shrine" [emphasis added].35

And in fact this was the case. The commander of the Israeli forces in the area asserted that the IDF would not break into the church itself and would not harm this site holy to Christianity. Israel also deployed more mature and more reserved reserve-duty soldiers in this sensitive situation that militarily called for more agile, standing-army soldiers.36

On the other hand, the Palestinians did not treat it the same way. Not only did they take their weapons with them into the Church of the Nativity and fire, on occasion, from the church, but also reportedly booby-trapped the entrance to the church.37

On April 7, "one of the few priests evacuated from the church told Israeli television yesterday that gunmen had shot their way in, and that the priests, monks and nuns were essentially hostages....The priest declined to call the clergy 'hostages,' but repeatedly said in fluent English: 'We have absolutely no choice. They have guns, we do not.'"38

Above from THE BELEAGUERED CHRISTIANS OF THE PALESTINIAN-CONTROLLED AREAS.

6 posted on 04/24/2013 10:24:26 PM PDT by Yehuda
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Thanks very much, dearest Yehuda. I read the article and even ran a search on this Ibrahim Shomali. Found his FaceBook page, checked out his "mentor", and whatdayaknow, he's Patriarch Emeritus Michel Sabbah, who goes out of his way to state, that just because he's Palestinian, it doesn't mean he's "pro-Palestinian." Sure.

It pains me that the Vatican has already written a letter in support of these people's wishes, and I hope the Vatican either stays out of it, or sides with Israel. How stupid can it and they be? The Temple Mount belongs to the Jewish people, NOT the Moslems. The Moslems have NO business in Jerusalem.
7 posted on 04/24/2013 10:50:18 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Yehuda

Thanks for the detail.


8 posted on 04/24/2013 11:38:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Gay State Conservative

Christian Arabs or Palestinians or Lebanese and their relationship with Israel is more complicated than freepers can often keep up with

Some Christian Arabs cozy with Israel.....SLA...the Gemayels...and others

Some Christian Arabs prosper in Israel

Others... one I know personally....lost their lands in 1947...

Some even took up arms.....George Habash....Wadie Haddad ...Hannah Alawari.....all Terrs

Twice as many Christians in Israel proper as in West Bank or Gaza

They used to control Lebanon till Hasemite shia and Hezbollah won out....and ruined Lebanon

Its simply not as cut and dried as many here like the world to be

I have spent much time in region ....and some in Leb in hot times

My ex FIL was leb phalange

He was allied with Saad Haddad...former head of SLA

They loved Israel and particularly Ariel Sharon


9 posted on 04/25/2013 12:11:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: onyx

Thank YOU, Onyx.


10 posted on 04/25/2013 3:26:33 PM PDT by Yehuda
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