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Posted on 04/25/2013 3:37:29 AM PDT by markomalley
HARRY REID: We have a situation where this country has been driven by the Tea Party for the last number of years. When I was in school, I studied government and I learned about the anarchists. Now, they were different than the Tea Party because they were violent. But they were anarchists because they did not believe in government in any level and they acknowledged it. The Tea Party kind of hides that.
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From the Congressional Record, page S2888:
I would also talk about my friend from Oklahoma. I know he is smart, and I understand that, but just because you are smart doesnt mean you are al- ways right. We have a situation where this country has been driven by the tea party for the last number of years. When I was in school, I studied govern- ment and I learned about the anar- chists. They were different from the tea party because they were violent. But they were anarchists because they did not believe in government at any level, and they acknowledged that. The tea party kind of hides that. They do not say we are against government, but that is what it amounts to. They are not doing physically destructive things to buildings and people directly, but they are doing everything they can to throw a monkey wrench into any form of government, whether it is local, State, or the Federal Government. That is what it is all about. So any- thing they can do to throw a monkey wrench into the wheels of government, they are happy doing that. And I am sorry to say my friend from Oklahoma is helping them, maybe not directly but indirectly, and that is wrong. Gov- ernment is not inherently bad. Govern- ment is inherently good. That is why we have a Constitution, and we direct the activities of this government based upon that Constitution.
“Trust me. I am Harry Reid and I have the interests of the little people at heart. Even if they do stink on ice.”
Government is inherently - power, and those who seek power most aggressively are often inherently bad.
Gov- ernment is not inherently bad.
THIS current version is...because it has forgotten that Constitution thingy whatchamacallit you try to say you follow.
Long Live The TEA PARTY. Hope they get stronger.
True, enough, Harry. Government is not inherently bad and none of us ever said so. Straw men creators like you are inherently bad. Lying, thieving senators like you are inherently bad. Stinking excrement is inherently bad-smelling.
Ever-”troubled” piously-fake-conerned zombie-look-alike senators are inherently bad.
“But they were anarchists because they did not believe in government in any level and they acknowledged it. The Tea Party kind of hides that.”
Hairy doesn’t know didley of the tea party or government for that matter. He certainly knows power, and can manipulate the Senate because of his power.
“they are doing everything they can to throw a monkey wrench into any form of government, whether it is local, State, or the Federal Government. That is what it is all about. So any- thing they can do to throw a monkey wrench into the wheels of government, they are happy doing that.”
Hairy just doesn’t get it as the above quote establishes. It isn’t the form of Government the tea party takes issue with, it is the Bastardization of the established Government and the destruction of the blue print in the Constitution of the United States of America. What is even more disturbing, is the propaganda in the form of lies, deceipt and distortion, that emanates from Hairy Reids mouth about things he knows nothing about, or could he really know the truth and that to him is disturbing?
That’s funny. King George thought the original tea party was a bunch of anarchists. But that’s how the U.S. Constitution got it’s start!
Can you imagine if a Republican was in office and that happened? Intruders breaking and entering and stealing a kid at gunpoint. The libs would be screaming for impeachment. But nooo, Billy gets a pass, and a pass and a pass
markomalley~: (from the article)” We have a situation where this country has been driven by the Tea Party for the last number of years.”
We have a situation where this countries government in the Senate has been driven by the for the last number of years by a ‘control -freak’ Nihilist.”
We have a situation where this country’s government in the House has been driven by the for the last number of years by a Masochistic, spineless figurehead.
We have a situation where this country’s Federal government has been driven by the for the last number of years by an agenda driven leader who can’t lead , but only knows how to campaign.
We have a government with much intelligence ,... but NO COMMON SENSE !
If this country had been driven by the Tea Party for the last few years, Harry, you’d have been ridden out of Washington on a rail!
... Wow, I must have missed that in the news.
Is Barry-O a Tea Partier now? He is a driver on this bus.
Is Dingy Harry a Tea Partier now? He is a driver on this bus.
Is Weepy Boehner a Tea Partier now? He is a driver on this bus.
Is the Senate overrun by the Tea Partiers now?
Is the House overrun by Tea Partiers now?
Is the SCOTUS overrun by Tea Partiers now?
How did I miss all this?
I would like to hear his thoughts about the Occupy thugs. / s
>>because they did not believe in government in any level<<
But yes we do Harry. Government that protects our borders, provides infrastructure....you know, all the things set forth in a lil know document to y’all called the constitution.
Government is too damn big, too damn intrusive, too damn expensive.
Man...I need another cup of coffee after reading my post. Wake up man...wake up.
Harry Reid, unfortunaely, is inherently bad ~ and so are the staffers who work for him, and the other members of the Democrat leadership elite. They are all bad ~ right down to the core of their rotten beings.
Jefferson, Madison, Adams and Locke respectfully disagree.
Too damn harryfied.
Senators who look like movie-morticians are inherently bad.
Sounds like ol’ harry understands anarchists about as well as he understands tea partiers. That is, very little. I’ve met both. tea partiers aren’t for no government in any way and anarchists aren’tba bunch of bomb and rock throwing mayhem makers.
Exactly, add to that those who wish to control more and more aspects of our lives.
No Harry, government is not inherently bad or good. It is just a tool that has a purpose. Harry, think of government as a handgun since you love those so. Put it in the hands of idiots and you can expect bad results. Ditto government.
Well, technically speaking, right wing ranges from the center as Republican, then conservatism, libertarianism and finally anarchy which is no government at all.
While still completely incorrect, at least he recognizes anarchy as right wing, where socialism, communism and fascism - mechanisms of the totalitarian state are completely totally owned by the left.
Anarchy is what you have when the president is ruling by executive orders, the AG wont enforce the law, and congress sends up legislation that nobody has read!
this government is inherently bad
Mr. Reid, YOU LIE. Oh, how I wish what you said was the truth.
Our Founder had a clear and accurate understanding of human nature, both the good and the bad of it. They gave us a central government with few and enumerated powers, because they knew that power inevitably seizes control to compel the will of one man over another.
Reid has actually done conservatives a favor in starting this conversation. If only we had a champion on the national level to engage this. But, that conversation requires more than sound bites, It’s seventh grade Civics, but the sheeple probably are not even interested in learning.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
“True, enough, Harry. Government is not inherently bad and none of us ever said so.”
Actually, any organization is focused on its own agenda and not on the public’s agenda. It is much more important to have a flagpole that is higher than the one across the street, and a more prestigious building, than it is to serve the public. Organizations create faceless processes where tiny people whose only power is to say “no” get to decide for the customer what that customer will get.
Because of organizational psychology, organizations, governments, become evil almost from the get-go. Why do you think so many people loath their jobs? They’re forced to do ridiculous things that do not serve what they’ve been told their function is. As an example, I was told to hire two software developers, which was on of my boss’ G&O’s. Then, my boss did not allow me to purchase them their development tools and they both left. It turns out that my boss got to keep a percentage of his unspent budget; which in this case was about $200 added to his $55,000 bonus. (Money is how you keep score.)
All men have a sin nature. We are, none of us, perfectly good. This is why government should be limited. Others may disagree, but I think that I would say government is inherently bad — I see it as a necessary evil, but it is inevitably run by flawed men and it needs to be limited and checked by a written (and respected) Constitution.
He could not state in any clearer terms that he is in direct opposition to our Founders and their philosophies. The Federalist Papers were a very thorough description of how and why government is evil, but a necessary one, and thus should be limited as much as practicable. The Bill of Rights creates explicit limitations on the federal government in every Amendment. We are truly no longer the America our Forefathers gave to us. We have given it away. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
That's an interesting admission... since the Tea Party does not have one member in Congress, since it is not an actual Political Party at all, he is admitting that it is a grass-roots movement that is extremely popular. It wields no political power, and yet controls the decisions of those who do.
This Reid character is a fool.
"Studying" and "understanding" are two different things. He's old enough for me to conclude that in his day, his schools (The George Washington University Law School, Southern Utah University, and Utah State University) had not yet become the liberal cesspools they are today.
His purpose and strategy is simple: Accuse your enemy of what you are doing.
Where is the Rep[ublican response to this fools rant?/
That’s right there is none.
FU Harry Reid, and F those who remain silent while you spit in their faces.
driven by the tea party for the last number of years?!?! Seriously!? This country has been driven by one man and only one man for the "last number of years" and his name is Barack Hussein Obama. When we're driving the country you'll be able to tell by the lack of taxes and the increasing number of employed people.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. George Washington
I made it my morning update on FB.
Exactly. Fire is a perfect analog for government.
“Projection” I think it’s called and Harry is simply projecting his troubled inner self for all to see...as if his equally lesser public self is any role model.
"...the government that governs least governs best, because the people discipline themselves." (Thos Jefferson -- anarchist?)
Normally, Senator Reid tests the bounds of clear thinking. Yesterday he shattered it's outer limits.
To compare the tea party to anarchists is beyond reason. It is, in fact accusing his enemy of what HE HIMSELF is doing.
Senator Reid is carrying the water for the President. Together with him and Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, Reid is bent on destroying the nation by turning away from the principle that was claimed by President Kennedy - "Ask not what your country (government) can do for you..."
You should be ashamed of yourself. You are a anathema to the fabric of our government. You need to apologize for your remarks and set your course aright.
I am not part of the tea party. But I am gravely concerned when I hear the attitude and beliefs that you espoused yesterday. You demonstrate duplicity on many levels.
Shame on you."
- the "government best..governs least" quote is not Thos. Jefferson - but more like what Thoreau wrote.
THOREAUS VERSION OF THE AXIOM ABOUT GOVERNMENT:
I heartily accept the motto, That government is best which governs least.
Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
American author, philosopher, naturalist and social critic
In his essay Civil Disobedience (1849)
The quotation That government is best which governs least is often attributed to Thomas Jefferson, but without any specific source. No source is given because, as noted by Jefferson scholars and books like Not So!: Popular Myths About America From Columbus to Clinton, there is no record that Jefferson ever said it. Nor did Thomas Paine, another Founding Father who is sometimes wrongly credited with the quote.
Henry David Thoreau did use the line in Civil Disobedience (originally titled Resistance to Civil Government) and its appearance in that famous essay probably popularized the saying in its best known form. However, Thoreau seemed to be making it clear that he was citing an existing motto.
He may have been paraphrasing the slogan coined by American journalist and editor John Louis OSullivan. In 1837, OSullivan wrote The best government is that which governs least in the opening editorial for his periodical The United States Magazine and Democratic Review. He then used those words as the motto of the Review until it ceased publication in 1859.
Thoreaus friend Ralph Waldo Emerson also penned an earlier version. In 1844, Emerson wrote in an essay titled Politics: The less government we have, the better.
Modern political conservatives are quite fond of the quote That government is best which governs least. But even most conservatives might not agree with what Thoreau went on to say about it in Civil Disobedience. He envisioned taking the axiom to its anarchic extreme, writing: Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, That government is best which governs not at all.
Except when people like you are Senate Majority Leader.
Historical “anarchism” is “socialism without the state”, best represented today by those wacko WTO protesters. Nothing like the tea party, at all.
What Reid is talking about is anarcho-capitalism. This exists as a minority faction of the Libertarian party.
Perhaps many on the right see it as an ideal society but recognize that it’s a fantasy.
Anyway Harry, never at any time, at any place on the planet, has government been “inherently good”. More often than not it’s been a tool of oppression. It’s inherently the product of whomever is running it, those people are usually morons or jagoffs, like you. It is a necessary evil we should strive to make less evil and less necessary.