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West Virginia Delegate Ray Canterbury: Children Should Work For School Lunches
Opposing Views ^ | 04/24/2013 | Jonathon Wolfe

Posted on 04/25/2013 8:22:44 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

School is all about teaching children how the real world works. So if there is no such thing as a free lunch in the real world, should the same principle apply in our schools? West Virginia Delegate Ray Canterbury seems to think so.

During a recent debate over West Virginia’s Feed to Achieve Act, Canterbury suggested that kids who cannot afford lunch should have to work for it instead.

"I think it would be a good idea if perhaps we had the kids work for their lunches: trash to be taken out, hallways to be swept, lawns to be mowed, make them earn it," Canterbury said. “If they miss a lunch or they miss a meal they might not, in that class that afternoon, learn to add, they may not learn to diagram a sentence, but they'll learn a more important lesson."

Canterbury added that he thinks free lunches will undermine children’s work ethics, saying the bill is “teaching students they don’t have to work hard.”

Canterbury’s suggestions were met with staunch opposition during floor debates.

“I'm offended anybody in this body would dare say a child has to work for their meals," said Del. Meshea Poore. "I can't believe someone would say a first-grader, a second-grader ... a fifth-grader has to labor before they eat. This isn't an entitlement bill."

West Virginia House of Delegates Majority Leader Brent Boggs echoed Poore’s sentiments. “It is pathetic that in a country as wealthy as this, that we’re talking about whether we should feed kids or not. Somebody better check your pulse and see if you’re still living if these things don’t touch you.”

The Feed to Achieve Act will set up non-profit organizations to solicit donations for school lunch programs. The FAA is notable in that it is one of the first legislative measures to combine private donations with federal funding for school lunch programs. One primary goal of the bill is to provide every child with a free breakfast and lunch.

The bill received overwhelming bipartisan support in the state house, passing via an 89-9 vote. It is expected to be signed into law by West Virginia governor Earl Tomblin by the end of April.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: freelunch

Lawmaker Says Kids Should Do Chores To Earn School Lunches

Millions of students are getting free meals at school, but there is a lawmaker out there that says nothing is free – not even a school lunch.

Ray Canterbury, a state delegate in West Virginia, says kids should work for their meals.

He wants them to sweep floors, take out the trash, mow the lawn – basically become janitors – in order to earn a free meal at school.

He says giving students free lunches destroys their work ethic and shows them there is an easy way out of everything.

He says, "If they miss a lunch or they miss a meal they might not, in that class that afternoon, learn to add, they may not learn to diagram a sentence, but they'll learn a more important lesson."

 

1 posted on 04/25/2013 8:22:44 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sounds good to me and I would include parents.


2 posted on 04/25/2013 8:25:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Amen!!!


3 posted on 04/25/2013 8:26:21 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Responsibility2nd

Goes back to that long-forgotten ethic - you don’t work, you don’t eat.


4 posted on 04/25/2013 8:26:21 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Who cannot afford lunch?.
Billions are spent on welfare and we still have to feed them at school?,the feds are breeders of moochers and slackers.


5 posted on 04/25/2013 8:27:06 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is not a new idea. Back during the Jurassic age, I worked for my lunch and I was not alone.


6 posted on 04/25/2013 8:27:37 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Parents who don’t pay taxes should volunteer as well. Lord knows there are plenty of us who don’t have kids but pay for schools.


7 posted on 04/25/2013 8:29:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I whole-heartedly agree. Maybe if they had some skin in the game there wouldn't be so much thrown into the dumpsters at the end of each lunch that is not eaten.

For those of you who are interested, go to the nearest school and look in the garbage and you will see all the 'free lunches' that aren't even eaten and just thrown into the garbage.

Some schools are getting 'smarter' and are purchasing commercial grinders to hide the waste.

Make the 'free loaders' work or pay. Period.

8 posted on 04/25/2013 8:29:41 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: Responsibility2nd

First Collector: At this festive time of year, Mr. Scrooge, it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the poor and destitute.

Ebenezer: Are there no prisons?

First Collector: Plenty of prisons.

Ebenezer: And the union workhouses - are they still in operation?

First Collector: They are. I wish I could say they were not.

Ebenezer: Oh, from what you said at first I was afraid that something had happened to stop them in their useful course. I’m very glad to hear it.

First Collector: I don’t think you quite understand us, sir. A few of us are endeavoring to buy the poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth.

Ebenezer: Why?


9 posted on 04/25/2013 8:30:42 AM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In Japan they don’t bother with janitors for schools. The kids get assigned days to clean up classrooms and mop the halls after school.


10 posted on 04/25/2013 8:32:46 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

Can you imagine the howls of protest already screeching forth from the ACLU, the NAACP and other leftist groups?

“How dare you force a poor black child to clean tables?

Thats Racist!!”


11 posted on 04/25/2013 8:38:09 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Truth29

YES....kids USED to have to work in the lunchroom for lunch. Up until in the 1980’s I know of instances....what changed? Gee, I wonder..../s


12 posted on 04/25/2013 8:38:23 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
On more than one occasion, our high school principal had students go out and police the school grounds to pick-up trash, cigarette butts and the like.

He was a good man and the trashy element in the student body was kept in check by peer pressure as a result.

When my kids attended school in Japan, chores ranging from cleaning to lunch service to caring for the classroom pet(s) was part of the school day. Guess how much vandalism there is in Japanese schools.

13 posted on 04/25/2013 8:40:20 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

2 thess 3:10


14 posted on 04/25/2013 8:41:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: redreno

Perhaps you would care to explain your point (if any)?

Perhaps you agree with the current government practice of taking money (using deadly force or the threat thereof) from those who provide useful goods and services, and giving it with no strings attached to those who will not do so?


15 posted on 04/25/2013 8:45:40 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: TalonDJ
Basically, correct. See my post #13. But they do have janitors for the real heavy duty stuff. It is generally an older guy or gal who doubles as a handyman and/or cook.

The kids eat their lunches in the classroom and the "han" (work detail of 2-4 kids assigned to the task) goes to a central lunch room to the food to distribute to their classmates.

Part of the mandatory school supplies is a set of thick cleaning rags which all the kids are expected to use at the close of the cleaning day and take home to launder regularly.

16 posted on 04/25/2013 8:46:07 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And adults should also work for welfare!


17 posted on 04/25/2013 8:46:08 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It is pathetic that in a country as wealthy as this, that we’re talking about whether we should feed kids or not. Somebody better check your pulse and see if you’re still living if these things don’t touch you.

Well then, I guess I'm one of those nasty conservatives who doesn't have a heart, or who is dead according to this Lib. I am so past this talking point. Earth to West Virginia Democrats: we are NOT a wealthy nation. We are careening toward national bankruptcy. And its the fault of the "free lunch" crowd.

18 posted on 04/25/2013 8:48:52 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s what you do when someone says “Hey, while you were in the bathroom, we made you a delagate”. :-)


19 posted on 04/25/2013 8:50:06 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Back in the 60's as a student in a private parochial school, a few of my classmates and I stayed behind to stack the trays & dishes, wipe off the tables, fold the chairs, sweep the floors and bundle the trash after lunch. It was always the same group of kids and we were all children of immigrants who were of little means.

My parents struggled to pay our tuition. Dad was out of work for six months and I recall a phone call when our parish priest expressed he was not too pleased with our family's meager contributions as the Sunday collection plate missed our weekly envelope again.

I can't prove that my elementary school had that policy. The school is long gone now, but I would venture to guess that this was a valid policy years ago, which indeed did teach an important lesson.

None of us felt taken advantage of for the chores, despite not joining our classmates on the playground for recess. Rather, we found it a challenge to finish quickly so we could enjoy the use of the pool table in the adjoining room. We also managed to avoid participating in our class' recital of verb conjugations as our classmates waited for each remaining class to line up to return to class.

20 posted on 04/25/2013 8:51:06 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Make a kid work because his parents don’t have money or are too lazy to work?


21 posted on 04/25/2013 9:13:57 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

Let the kid grow up thinking there’s such thing as a free lunch, so he’ll be just like his too lazy to work parent(s)?


22 posted on 04/25/2013 9:17:42 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cripplecreek
Sounds good to me and I would include parents.

Amen. In fact, for the younger kids, I'd just make the parents do it. There's always something they can do, even if it is just cleaning blackboards. (Oops! Was that racist?)

23 posted on 04/25/2013 9:19:14 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: redreno

Yep, good old Scrooge. He wanted the government to take care of the poor instead of working with charities to help them


24 posted on 04/25/2013 9:21:35 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree... but the problem they seem to keep running into with this argument is that the public employee unions will be undermined/reduced if their member employees are needed in lower numbers due to volunteers doing their work. So, the taxpayers get screwed again....


25 posted on 04/25/2013 9:24:02 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ve always said that ALL who live on the Public Dole (welfare, WIC, etc.) should be made to do public works jobs to earn their handouts.....but Unions won’t allow it.


26 posted on 04/25/2013 9:30:30 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: wtd

If there’s one thing I’ve learned in life, it’s that sometimes non-optimal situations can have silver linings that more than make it worth the hassle in the end, if you’re just willing to put in a little work. That and having some control of your own destiny in exchange for effort has it’s own rewards that can have a very high value.


27 posted on 04/25/2013 9:43:32 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I have long wondered why the food stamp program does not require that the amount allocated to kids is also to be used to pay for their school lunches as well as other meal programs. Seems like double dipping for those whose parents will not feed them at home. My sister and I both worked cleaning a class room each school day to pay for our tuition at parochial schools and generally had friends keeping us company and never did we feel in any way put upon etc. A relative worked in the cafeteria to help with her children’s tuition and my children held jobs instead of receiving allowances. Who has gained from the culture of responsibility avoidance whatever the social level they come from? It takes a rather stern approach from this WV state delegate to get the attention of citizens who pay taxes coming and going for social experiments that are contributing to the cultural deterioration of America.


28 posted on 04/25/2013 9:50:35 AM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America and the Republic for which is stands.)
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