put a fork in CA, they're done.
Posted on 04/25/2013 2:04:39 PM PDT by rey
State bill would allow non-citizens to serve as jurors
By JUDY LIN ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: Thursday, April 25, 2013 at 12:24 p.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, April 25, 2013 at 12:24 p.m.
SACRAMENTO — The state Assembly on Thursday passed a bill that would make California the first state in the nation to allow non-citizens who are in the country legally to serve on jury duty.
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The foreigners and their allies keep pushing for power over the Americans.
Nothing animates them more.
To be convicted of a "crime" by people who are not of your nation?
A crime itself.
In California? They are CRAZY out there. We should deed that state to Mexico and be done with it.
Jury duty is just one of those jobs that americans won’t do. [/sarcasm]
But seriously, I’ll go to jury duty if I’m called for it. If for no other reason than having the opportunity to hang the jury if someone is on trial for some victimless crime like drugs possession.
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Well, once the accused are released following YOUR “jury hanging” I hope that it is your kids he/she will be giving drugs to and not mine.
Judged by foreigners???
Is it time YET???!!!
Exactly. A woman gets gang-raped by a bunch of thugs and Juror Mohammad finds the men not guilty and wants the victim to be executed or wearing a short skirt and leading the men on.
In three words?
A-T-M.
-PJ
"What difference does it make?
I didn't let my kid do drugs but if you choose to let your kids do drugs there is little I can do about that. That would really be your responsibility.
F no !
Well Orangedog, I didn’t let my kids do drugs either. But I won’t kid myself, I don’t know whether they ever experimented or not—and I suspect you don’t KNOW about your kid either (unless you kept the kid chained up in your basement).
But keep up with your jury nullification plans for “victimless—as determined by you—crimes”—maybe you’ll graduate from being willing to do jury nullification for folks accused of drug possession to doing jury nullification for folks accused of pedophilia or statutory rape or one of the VERY numerous crimes some (not me) say can be “victimless”.
I live in CA and hardly ever come across anyone who was born in the USA. Maybe they had to do this in order to have juries at all.
This effort is to give the criminal element a free pass in Cali>
What are the percentages of Illegals comitting crimes.
All the talk of secession I think the USA needs to secceed from Cali! All Illegal aliens deported to Cali and all Fedral funds withdrawn from the state!
Why let a ship of fools sink the entire fleet!
Idiots!
Ont thing for sure My Passport will never be Stamped California!
I chose not to bring more children into the world than I could feed, clothe, shelter, educate and supervise. Others choose to whelp out a litter and expect all kinds of other peoples’ money to be taken from them and spent to round off all the rough edges in life so they can free-range their kids. I took my job a little more seriously than others.
And what part of victimless did you not comprehend. Pedophilia and rape most certainly have direct, nameable, specifically identifiable victims.
put a fork in CA, they're done.
“.....And what part of victimless did you not comprehend. Pedophilia and rape most certainly have direct, nameable, specifically identifiable victims.”
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Sorry Orangedog you’ll have to re-read my post—I very clearly qualified what I meant by victimless. I said “victimless—as determined by you—crimes”.
So I, in the same manner you did for yourself, have set you (Orangedog) up as the “high arbiter” of what is, and what is not, a “victimless crime”. So Orangedog, as “high arbiter” you can ordain at will what is and what is not a victimless crime.
I’m happy that you (at least for the time being) do not currently designate pedophilia and STATUTORY rape as victimless crimes.
In any case, we certainly need more folks such as yourself. Folks who proudly proclaim that they’ll disregard the juror’s oath they will take swearing that they will render a true verdict according to the law.
If you can't produce a victim, a living, breathing victim (or corpse, if appropriate) than you have no crime. It's pretty simple, actually.
I’m happy that you (at least for the time being) do not currently designate pedophilia and STATUTORY rape as victimless crimes.
I'm fairly certain you know I didn't say that. If you had a hard time reading, you can scroll up and read it again. If not, well, then you're intentionally misstating the truth (I'm trying really hard to not use the L word here).
In any case, we certainly need more folks such as yourself. Folks who proudly proclaim that they’ll disregard the juror’s oath they will take swearing that they will render a true verdict according to the law.
It is the right of a juror to judge the law as well as the accused. If it wasn't then there is no point in having a jury trial since the judge could just order the jury to return the verdict he wants. One of the reasons we got rid of prohibition is courts were having a hard time finding juries who would convict for violating the laws banning alcohol.
Perhaps amusement parks and cruise ships will start to offer their foreign tourists ‘US jury duty’ excursions.
“You’ve all seen the OJ trial on TV! Experience it yourselves in the same courtroom!”
Hell no
Why is it impossible to find who voted for this?
Orangedog,
I think you missed the word “not” in the following sentence I posted.
“I’m happy that you (at least for the time being) do not currently designate pedophilia and STATUTORY rape as victimless crimes.”
The word “not” makes a critical difference in the meaning of the sentence.
You and I will just have to “agree to disagree”. I live in Maryland and jury nullification is becoming a real problem here where a substantial percentage of Baltimore’s black population will now NEVER render a GUILTY vote against a fellow black—no matter how strong the evidence. I have had a friend who was very badly injured in a crime in which there was an overwhelming body of strong evidence—way more than what was needed to overcome the reasonable doubt burden. And that friend’s attacker got off scot free thanks to a free public defender and a bit of jury nullification.
Funny that I correctly guessed this was California before even reading down that far. Damn, I’m glad I left that place!
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