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Mark Sanford, Anthony Weiner and the Limits of Political Redemption
RCP ^ | 04/25/2013 | Scott Conroy

Posted on 04/25/2013 3:14:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

If Mark Sanford had been asked in the early months of 2009 where he saw himself four years down the line, he probably would not have answered, “Standing on a sidewalk in front of a folding music stand, pretending to debate a poster with Nancy Pelosi’s likeness on it.”

But that’s exactly what the former South Carolina governor was up to in Charleston on Wednesday: conducting the stunt as part of an effort to turn around his foundering U.S. House campaign.

Sanford’s attempt to draw attention to his Democratic opponent’s reluctance to debate him risked underscoring how his once promising political career had been reduced to a low-budget gimmick.

Unlike Sanford, former New York Congressman Anthony Weiner now finds himself exactly where he thought he would be four years ago: on the verge of launching a campaign for mayor of New York City.

But just like his fellow scandal-scarred politician to the South, Weiner appears to be struggling in his comeback effort. Something else the two men share: Their falls from grace are rooted in sexual indiscretions. And their difficulties prompt a key question -- have they overestimated the limits of redemption in a political system that has long celebrated it?

In Sanford’s infamous “Appalachian Trail” saga of June 2009 and Weiner’s “Twitter hack” misadventure two years later, the married politicians first told whopping lies in attempts to cover their tracks. Then after a short period of waffling, each held dramatic press conferences to own up to his misbehavior once the evidence had become indisputable.

Sanford held on to power for the rest of his term as governor; Weiner resigned. Now each is attempting to become the latest once-disgraced politician to reenter public life.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: anthonyweiner; elizabethbusch; marksanford; southcarolina; stephencolbert
But with polls showing Sanford trailing in a special election that should have offered an easy GOP victory and Weiner struggling to generate much enthusiasm for his comeback bid, perhaps the two men were blinded by previous successes.
1 posted on 04/25/2013 3:14:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
perhaps the two men were blinded by previous successes.

Ole BJ Clinton is regularly touted by the media as the "most popular Democrat" but I wonder how he would do in an actual election. Weenie may be using him as guidance.

2 posted on 04/25/2013 3:17:57 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most New Yorkers deserve a weener in Gracie Mansion.

He can “connect” with the average New York voter.

Hell, he might even be an improvement over Czar Bloomberg.


3 posted on 04/25/2013 3:19:46 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: nascarnation

Different standards for democrats mean different outcomes.

Michigan Democrat Caught On Tape Calling Town Official An “Arrogant N*gger”…

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/25/michigan-democrat-caught-on-tape-calling-town-official-an-arrogant-ngger/

>>The 63 year-old Democrat later apologized forthe “slip of the tongue,” but shockingly insisted that her use of the slur doesn’t make her racist, because she has “eaten Thanksgiving dinner with black friends at their house.”<<


4 posted on 04/25/2013 3:21:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sanford...

...the new, and former, Todd Akin.

(sigh)

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5 posted on 04/25/2013 3:30:04 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

Horsewhip them both, tar and feather them, and then chain them together at the ankles.

Then make hike the entire Appalachian Trail from Georgia to Maine, and back, summer and winter, wearing burlap sack clothes. No tents. No sleeping bags.

After that, I’ll talk to them about their political redemption.


6 posted on 04/25/2013 3:30:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Sanford would have made it except for the revelation he was sneaking in and out of his ex’s house in violation of his divorce agreement. Creepy.


7 posted on 04/25/2013 3:42:37 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SeekAndFind

I supported Bostic in the primary run-off by making a small donation to his campaign. Well, at least I got a very gracious thank you card from him.

I figured that whoever won the primary would be a shoo-in in the general election. It looks as though that is not the case this time. Since the alternative to Mark Sanford (who has been a VERY RELIABLE CONSERVATIVE despite his personal shortcomings) is Nancy Pelosi’s gal who is being backed by large amounts of liberal Democrat money from out of state I guess it’s time for a small donation to the Sanford campaign.

EVERY conservative vote counts in today’s Congress; particularly since a number of very critical votes (Amnesty, etc.) are coming up in the near-term.

http://www.marksanford.com/home/


8 posted on 04/25/2013 3:44:10 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind

But it is possible that Weiner could get a leg up on the competition.


9 posted on 04/25/2013 3:49:33 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: House Atreides

I had read that the Republican Party in South Carolina had removed their support from his candidacy?

Doesn’t this man have the decency to withdraw and go do something else for a living?


10 posted on 04/25/2013 4:01:22 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

I’m not defending the guy but he won the primary.


11 posted on 04/25/2013 4:03:43 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: SatinDoll
Doesn’t this man have the decency to withdraw and go do something else for a living?

You could have ended the question with the word "decency" and gotten the same answer. But, of course, there are people here lining up to give him a campaign contribution, so why should he work?

12 posted on 04/25/2013 4:07:31 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: nascarnation

I’m not defending the guy but he won the primary.
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I’m certainly not defending his past personal actions either. But I don’t want to see a Pelosi Democrat waltz into that seat.

But we conservatives may, once again, be in the process of killing off any conservative that isn’t 100% to our satisfaction.


13 posted on 04/25/2013 4:09:10 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: nascarnation

“I’m not defending the guy but he won the primary.”

Oh, dear! That is the excuse given as to why we shouldn’t challenge Obama; he won the elections.

I know Sanford won the primary. But how many people knew he was illegally entering his wife’s house?

This is more of the hypocrisy politicians exhibit. Laws and rules are for everyone else - but not for them. They’re special and are exempt./sarc

If he doesn’t withdraw it will cost the Republicans what would have been an almost sure win. We, as a group, believe in the rule of law and Sanford just ain’t our type.


14 posted on 04/25/2013 4:19:08 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: House Atreides

I think it safe to say we shouldn’t be running candidates who believe they are outside the bounds of laws and decency.

It really shouldn’t be that difficult to run candidates who are honest, or is it?


15 posted on 04/25/2013 4:21:05 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: House Atreides

I can’t get past his leaving his post on duty. He needs some punishment for that and losing this election is not enough, but it is a start.


16 posted on 04/25/2013 4:21:20 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: ZULU

That’s right. They deserve Weiner. They sat by while Napoleon Bloomaparte eroded their freedoms, so WTF....


17 posted on 04/25/2013 4:21:36 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: nascarnation
I’m not defending the guy but he won the primary.

That doesn't matter' He is still a hemorrhoid on the rectum of life.

Don't commitments mean anything anymore?

18 posted on 04/25/2013 4:24:16 PM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m putting a clothes pin on my nose and pulling the lever for Sanford, like I had to do for Romney and McCain.


19 posted on 04/25/2013 4:27:50 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Both of those turds should be chained to wrecked cars, taken to the center of the Atlantic Ocean, and dropped out of an airplane. We need to seek the best people for public office, not the worst.


20 posted on 04/25/2013 5:40:15 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: SatinDoll

Oh, it’s you again. Showing up wherever the possibility exists to take a shot at a potentially vulnerable Republican.

I’ll post the website of Mark Sandford, the conservative Republican candidate in this special election:

http://www.marksanford.com/home/

Feel free to post Pelosi’s candidate’s site if you think that will further your desired “progress”.


21 posted on 04/25/2013 5:54:42 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

How cute!

So, how many potentially vulnerable Republicans have I shot at, since you’re keeping tally?

And Mark Sanford can easily say anything he likes or believes will get him elected, which is just like what Democrat’s do - don’t watch what they do, watch what they say or write.

You know the old saying: ‘Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me!’.

Put you thinking cap on. I know you can figure this one out.


22 posted on 04/25/2013 6:16:16 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

“....So, how many potentially vulnerable Republicans have I shot at, since you’re keeping tally?....
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Well, since this is a special election and the only Congressional race happening now, you’re actually batting 100% at the moment.

Since there’s only one race happening now availing you of the opportunity to take shots at a conservative Republican you’ve plenty of time available to advance silly conspiracy theories. Case in point, post 85 in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3011276/posts?page=90#85

Nice try Satin, but I don’t think you’ll get too many people at Free Republic to take a bite out of this latest poisonous apple you’re offering. At least I hope not many FReepers take your bait in this latest attempt to make some FReepers appear delusional. Of course I suppose it’s possible that YOU believe this particular conspiracy theory—in which case YOU are the delusional one.


23 posted on 04/25/2013 7:10:41 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

What conspiracy theory - that Marc Sanford is less than honest?


24 posted on 04/25/2013 8:25:21 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sanford’s song:

I wish I were a candidate named Weiner.

That is what I’d truly like to be.

Cause if I were a candidate named Weiner,

everyone would be in love with me.


25 posted on 04/25/2013 8:37:27 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: SatinDoll

What conspiracy theory.....?
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Go up thread to my post #23. It contains a link to a post you made to try to advance the lunatic theory that the Boston bombing was “staged”. Troll much?


26 posted on 04/25/2013 8:46:42 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

well, newbie, people at the marathon were told there was a drill going on and not to panic when loud noises occurred.

Have you ever been to one of these drills? The FX makeup looks very real.


27 posted on 04/25/2013 8:55:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

Quick...before it’s too late!!

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/


28 posted on 04/26/2013 4:15:52 AM PDT by House Atreides
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