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Calif. bill would let non-citizens serve on juries
AdminPress ^ | Apr 25, 2013 | UDY LIN

Posted on 04/25/2013 4:43:44 PM PDT by Cheerio

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The California Assembly passed a bill on Thursday that would make the state the first in the nation to allow non-citizens who are in the country legally to serve on jury duty.

Assemblyman Bob Wieckowski, D-Fremont, said his bill, AB1401, would help California widen the pool of prospective jurors and help integrate immigrants into the community.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; insanity
The open border crowd will never give up.
1 posted on 04/25/2013 4:43:44 PM PDT by Cheerio
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To: Cheerio

Mental image: idiocracy trial scene...


2 posted on 04/25/2013 4:45:20 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cheerio

The inmates are running the asylum here in Cali....have been for awhile.


3 posted on 04/25/2013 4:45:27 PM PDT by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: Cheerio

The big one cannot come soon enough to CA.

Sorry, CA conservatives. Leave while you can.


4 posted on 04/25/2013 4:45:49 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Cheerio

Why not have a non-citizen judge preside?


5 posted on 04/25/2013 4:45:50 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Cheerio

Well, now it will be a jury of your peers.


6 posted on 04/25/2013 4:48:11 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Cheerio

If non-citizens can serve on juries, it is only fair that the can vote. /sarc


7 posted on 04/25/2013 4:48:14 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: Cheerio

Well that makes up about 4/5th’s of Kaliphornia anyway.


8 posted on 04/25/2013 4:48:14 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Cheerio

Yo no save e intiendo. Besame kulo mensos. pisetas pierenes.


9 posted on 04/25/2013 4:48:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Cheerio

A NON-citizen is not one of my peers.


10 posted on 04/25/2013 4:49:44 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Cheerio

I thought that the jury pool was the pool of registered voters. Is that not the case? How would you select these non-citizen, non-registered voters?


11 posted on 04/25/2013 4:50:50 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

Just drive a pick up down to home depot they jump right in


12 posted on 04/25/2013 4:53:09 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Cheerio

Aren’t we overdue for The Big One?


13 posted on 04/25/2013 4:53:30 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Vendome

No playo nintendo!

Pero mucho bueno game-o!


14 posted on 04/25/2013 4:53:44 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Cheerio

Wow. What a socio-political death spiral CA is in.


15 posted on 04/25/2013 4:53:45 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Vendome

You eat with that mouth? What a disgrace.


16 posted on 04/25/2013 4:54:19 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Da Coyote
Sorry, CA conservatives. Leave while you can. I was kicked off jury duty two weeks ago. I hope to be out of here in a matter of months. Check out my tag line, as to where I am going.
17 posted on 04/25/2013 4:54:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (My body is in California, but my heart is in the Philippines)
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To: Cheerio
Having gone through several jury selection cycles I can only imagine how this would turn out.

The judges are almost always predisposed to the left, might as well have a fake jury to go along with the charade.

18 posted on 04/25/2013 4:57:10 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Gen.Blather

In California superior court jurors are selected from the Department of Motor Vehicle records. A juror must be a U.S. citizen, be at least 18 years old, must speak and understand English, and cannot be a felon. In other words, only a tiny percentage of Californians are presently qualified for jury duty. That is why I get a jury summons almost every year.


19 posted on 04/25/2013 4:59:16 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Cheerio

Non-citizens may be wonderful folks but they’re not our “Peers”. This proposal won’t fly long.


20 posted on 04/25/2013 5:00:35 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: ConservativeInPA
If non-citizens can serve on juries, it is only fair that the can vote.

This is what the Democrats and mainstream media are really after. Giving the vote to these 12-20 million Hispanic illegals is top of the left's agenda and has been since the last amnesty. After socialized medicine, it's the liberal holy grail.

21 posted on 04/25/2013 5:02:51 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Fightin Whitey

why even have trials just send a bill


22 posted on 04/25/2013 5:03:22 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Ray76

The proposition is far worse.

Non citizens are not my peers and have a different understanding of laws here in Merika®


23 posted on 04/25/2013 5:05:48 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Da Coyote
Sorry, CA conservatives. Leave while you can.

Conservatives should leave CA not only for themselves, but to support/insulate other purple/red states and make them more right of center. The faster productive people leave CA, Illinois, NY, etc, the quicker those states will implode. We need to further the blue/red divide which will make liberal blue states less and less able to compete.

24 posted on 04/25/2013 5:06:18 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Fightin Whitey

Shoulduh finished them in Nam¡¡¡


25 posted on 04/25/2013 5:06:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 353FMG
Why not have a non-citizen judge preside?

Why stop there? Screw American law! Use Mexican law! Oh wait - that's probably harsher! Nevermind

26 posted on 04/25/2013 5:07:56 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Cheerio

Brilliant! Open our formerly constitutional system of self governance to those who have no knowledge of our laws, the tradition they were born upon, the rich history behind their founding.

Of course, the California legal system will avail the illegals with UN-style translator headphones. This is boring, can we just go home now?

Ya, dude, he’s a homie, not guilty. Just like that, a jury of homies. This gringo just looks guilty, can we just go home now?


27 posted on 04/25/2013 5:08:59 PM PDT by glock rocks (No, the game never ends, when your whole world depends, on the turn of a friendy card.)
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To: faithhopecharity
Non-citizens may be wonderful folks but they’re not our “Peers”. This proposal won’t fly long.

Liberals will argue that, if an illegal immigrant is to be tried for a crime, then a "jury of his peers" would be his fellow illegals.

It's only fair...

28 posted on 04/25/2013 5:12:31 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Cheerio

Look at the bright side: “peers” with more common sense than most other Californians.

;-)


29 posted on 04/25/2013 5:12:33 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: okie01

yes, but it is only by extension that a foreigner inside USA has full constitutional rights (you can dig up court cases indicating this, yes) ... traditional notions of sovereignty do not agree with this attitude, however, and as it happens neither do I.

a foreigner inside our country is either a legal guest or an illegal alien ... not a citizen.

but yes, you are correct to be sure...
our legal system is largely broken at any event, insofar as justice is concerned. the qualification (or lack thereof) of a certain high-office-holder is but the latest examplar of how our legal system is dysfunctional nowadays.

and everyone (including the gang members in the big cities..and the terrorists coming into USA through our open borders policy....all) know it. alas


30 posted on 04/25/2013 5:26:09 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Cheerio

Automatic jury nullification for all accused named Guittierez, Gonzalez, etc;

Anything, anything at all to cancel out and scramble the system.


31 posted on 04/25/2013 5:32:42 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Cheerio
This is insane. I know of several foreigners who cannot and/or simply refuse to adhere to existing law. They aren't hoodlums, they are businessmen. They just don't agree with our laws. I can't imagine any of them sitting on a jury. Besides, doesn't having a "jury of your peers" refer to your fellow American?

liberals are insane.

32 posted on 04/25/2013 5:33:24 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: Ray76

I spelled it all wong.


33 posted on 04/25/2013 5:35:34 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Delta 21

>>A NON-citizen is not one of my peers.<<

How can you say that when you paid for his wife to give birth and you have paid to feed, clothe, educate, arrest and imprison the young man she calls her son?


34 posted on 04/25/2013 5:38:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: Gen.Blather
I thought that the jury pool was the pool of registered voters. Is that not the case? How would you select these non-citizen, non-registered voters?

In some states, the jury pool comes from the DMV, either in addition to or instead of registered voters. I was selected for jury duty once after I moved to a new city, before I had registered to vote, because I had changed my driver's license.

35 posted on 04/25/2013 5:42:30 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Vendome

I have no idea what you said back there but I’m with you: they are not peers!


36 posted on 04/25/2013 5:47:13 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Vendome

All wong? He-he.


37 posted on 04/25/2013 5:48:31 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Cheerio

I’ll probably never set foot inside CA again.

Occupied territory as far as I’m concerned. It’d be nice if the other states could vote these places out of the union.


38 posted on 04/25/2013 5:57:06 PM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: Ray76

If I said it in engrish I’d be on double time out or Zot.

I spoke in the language and terms that these New
Peers would.

Honestly, I’m considering petitioning the queen for a New Narmada of ships in search of a New land....


39 posted on 04/25/2013 6:09:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Cheerio

CA courts, criminal in the dock, criminals on the jury, criminal judge on the bench and criminal lawyers at both tables. Justice?


40 posted on 04/25/2013 6:34:42 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: Ray76
Aren’t we overdue for The Big One?

ONE WOULD THINK.
41 posted on 04/25/2013 7:01:48 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

Appeals galore...both within California and in the Federal courts.


42 posted on 04/25/2013 7:27:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Cheerio

Non-citizens are not peers.

The Founders would be raising hell with us for letting politicians drag the nation so far down the toilet.


43 posted on 04/25/2013 7:41:28 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Cheerio

bump


44 posted on 04/26/2013 2:53:11 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Cheerio
To Populate is to Govern
45 posted on 04/26/2013 4:29:24 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Cheerio

So, are they run’n out of born & bred citizens now?


46 posted on 04/26/2013 6:35:17 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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