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Mormon Church Pleased with Boy Scouts Proposal
Newsmax ^ | 4/25/2013 | AP

Posted on 04/25/2013 7:52:41 PM PDT by MacNaughton

The Mormon church has given its blessing to the Boy Scouts of America on its latest proposal to lift the gay ban for youth members but continue to exclude gays as adult leaders. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; homosexual
Not a good sign. The Mormons have gone wobbly.

"In December (12/06/2012), however, the church launched a website encouraging members to be more compassionate in discussions about homosexuality. The website says Mormons should be loving and respectful toward gays and lesbians, while appealing to gay and lesbian Mormons to stay in the church."

Mormons faced intense criticism after church leaders helped fund and lead the fight for California's Proposition 8, a constitutional ban on gay marriage that voters adopted in 2008 after the state Supreme Court ruled that homosexual Californians could marry. Mormon officials said they were stunned by the backlash from homosexual activists and from many Mormons who felt the church was wrong to take such a prominent role in favor of the ballot measure. Since then, church leaders in Salt Lake City and elsewhere have been trying to reach out to homosexuals to heal tensions.

Scout units chartered to LDS churches account for 16.6% of all registered Scouts in the U.S. - the largest of any charter organization (from 2012 BSA membership report).

5/30-6/02/2012 – BSA held its annual national council business meeting in Orlando, FL. Telecom pioneer and Seattle Mariners co-owner, Wayne Perry, was elected as the BSA's 34th (volunteer) president. Perry, a life-long member of the LDS Church, began his career in telecommunications and was chairman and CEO of Edge Wireless until it was sold to AT&T in 2008.

1 posted on 04/25/2013 7:52:41 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

Why is this a surprise......homosexual justification marriage leads to polygamy, which is practiced in the mormon temple, can now be practiced for the world to see.


2 posted on 04/25/2013 7:57:06 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: svcw

First hurtle was to get over the ‘sex’ one can marry and the next is ‘how many’ one can marry and then why limit it to humans as everyone knows a dog is man’s best friend. Evil knows no bounds.


3 posted on 04/25/2013 8:04:07 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MacNaughton

No core theology there. Maybe explains the wimps Romney and Reid. Glen Beck next?


4 posted on 04/25/2013 8:08:51 PM PDT by amihow
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To: MacNaughton

What is going to happen when some little pansy crosses the line and gets his butt kicked?


5 posted on 04/25/2013 8:11:34 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: MacNaughton

My boys are out if the BSA caves.


6 posted on 04/25/2013 8:13:13 PM PDT by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: svcw

There were a group of “Scout” leaders (Mormons) who were molesting boys.

Where there is polygamy, there is an underlying hatred of women-—and a preference of “men” or should we say “young” men.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/LDS-leaders-guilty-of-molesting-Boy-Scouts/zWZfSkt-WkqHsBDbozljUQ.cspx

Homosexuality is all about the boys-—it is an immaturity—a fixation caused by trauma or emotional abuse in the Latency period or at puberty.

There is no “maturing” to appreciate the diversity of the opposite sex. They are fixated on self—idolatry/narcissist. We see it in zero who was probably molested in Thailand in mosques. As Shoebat stated in a M. Savage interview—all Saudis prefer boys. Same as John Maynard Keynes who bragged in letters to his homosexual orgy friends where to comb for little boys.

They need homosexuality taught in schools to pervert the children into a homosexual “mindset”. It is a learned behavior as all homosexual cultures prove-—including Afghanistan today with their harems.


7 posted on 04/25/2013 9:01:17 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: MacNaughton

This is not unexpected. We forced them to give up on their heretical definition of marriage 150 years ago. Now they are back for the ride down the slippery slope.


8 posted on 04/25/2013 9:02:33 PM PDT by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: MacNaughton
Rather than take the Newsmax version at its word, I went to the original source material posted here.

You can read the whole thing if you like, but this is the gist of it:

“The current BSA proposal constructively addresses a number of important issues that have been part of the ongoing dialogue, including consistent standards for all BSA partners, recognition that Scouting exists to serve and benefit youth rather than Scout leaders, a single standard of moral purity for youth in the program, and a renewed emphasis for Scouts to honor their duty to God.

The gay mafia ain't going to be happy because their satanic crusade against the Boy Scouts has always been about imposing themselves into leadership positions and never about the youth.

As a former B.S.A. youth and and leader, I would have preferred to have seen a more clearly worded statement from both the B.S.A. and one of their major constituent organizations condemning the deviancy and anti-first amendment stand of the gay mafia pushing this crap.

In ObaMao's America, however, with its out of control government, this is probably about the best we could have hoped for and still ensured the survival of a valuable and worthwhile organization for youth.

I could be wrong, but I just don't see a rush of under 18 year old queers rushing to infiltrate and undermine the B.S.A. And that assumes the rank and file even approves this slight shift in the B.S.A. position, as they are required to do.

9 posted on 04/25/2013 9:14:56 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

A single standard of moral purity. The Mormon position is that ALL Scouts are to be sexually abstinent. That is a much higher standard than many others have.


10 posted on 04/25/2013 9:26:14 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: MacNaughton

The LDS church will go largely Politically Correct in less than 15 years. The suits in SLC have already decided it, and they’re phasing in women in the priesthood and gay marriage.


11 posted on 04/25/2013 10:14:24 PM PDT by lurk
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To: MacNaughton

Doesn’t matter whether or not the Mormons approve. The homosexual lobby will continue to push for the inclusion of adult homosexual leadership. The Brown Bomber himself will hie on the homos, and he will be followed closely by the usual gang of Socialist-Liberal bandits. And Barney Frank may try to insert himself into the mix.


12 posted on 04/25/2013 10:15:36 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Burkean
A single standard of moral purity. The Mormon position is that ALL Scouts are to be sexually abstinent. That is a much higher standard than many others have.

Weasel words.

God calls Homosexuality an Abomination.

In the Old Testament it got the temporal death sentence.

In the New Testament, it gets the eternal death sentence.

There is no compromise with sin with God.

He demands/commands us to be like him.

The Mormon church IS NOT following the God of the Bible in this matter.
13 posted on 04/25/2013 10:39:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: MacNaughton

Don’t think for a minute that leadership positions are not the goal. The inclusion of gay scouts is merely to get the frogs used to the nice, warm water as it heats to a boil.


14 posted on 04/25/2013 11:18:30 PM PDT by informavoracious (The ancient Greeks and Romans thought they were on the "right side of history.")
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To: MacNaughton

If they do this, I know family members who are taking their boys out of the scouts. I don’t care what the Mormons have to say because it is just being your typical political correctness wimps.


15 posted on 04/25/2013 11:19:35 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: svcw

+1 on cynicism, -1 on likely intent.


16 posted on 04/25/2013 11:40:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: informavoracious

>> Don’t think for a minute that leadership positions are not the goal

Certainly not the Scouts’ goal.


17 posted on 04/25/2013 11:42:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: MacNaughton

Boy Scouts should just fold the tent and go away. They have failed.


18 posted on 04/25/2013 11:50:48 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

And the girls scouts, also, as they have subtle ties to Planned Parenthood. We can see how evil works - whatever is good they infiltrate.


19 posted on 04/26/2013 12:18:16 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

subtle my foot


20 posted on 04/26/2013 12:20:47 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: amihow

He already did. Came out in favor of faux marriage a while ago.


21 posted on 04/26/2013 12:59:04 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: GeronL
I didn't feel like arguing right now with anyone who reads it who thinks it isn't true so I said subtle. Instead I got your foot. LOL! I didn't know - those in the know - stay up so late (except me).
22 posted on 04/26/2013 1:04:46 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MacNaughton

23 posted on 04/26/2013 1:10:31 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Christie at the beach
PC always leads to evil, it's intended purpose.

The boys in the scouts should say to the leaders we will always be scouts but since you have no backbone we won't be part of an organization that crumbles as their word to uphold is no good.

24 posted on 04/26/2013 1:14:02 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: JoeProBono

Another good pic stamped with Be Prepared.

Be Prepared to Leave.


25 posted on 04/26/2013 1:18:20 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
What is going to happen when some little pansy crosses the line and gets his butt kicked?

There won't be anything left to sue for after the first few pedophile assaults.

Lifting a ban on homos will be "sue-icide" for the Boy Scouts.

Complete and total insanity that will kill off one of our best and brightest hopes for the future.

26 posted on 04/26/2013 4:25:56 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SoConPubbie

No, it’s weasel words to say only one type of sexual immorality is an abomination. According to God’s Word, all sex outside of marriage is an abomination. The Mormon church teaches equally against fornication, masturbation, and adultery.


27 posted on 04/27/2013 11:37:36 AM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: Burkean
No, it’s weasel words to say only one type of sexual immorality is an abomination. According to God’s Word, all sex outside of marriage is an abomination. The Mormon church teaches equally against fornication, masturbation, and adultery.

Sorry, but you cannot approve of Homosexuals being in the Boy Scouts and have an intact Moral Purity where Sexual Immorality is concerned.

That is Hypocrisy and outright lying.

Besides, Christ made it real clear it wasn't the Committed Action he came to fix or condemn, but what came out of the Heart, the desire.

It is totally non-Christian to propose that if a man abstains from acting out the desire, but still has the desire, that God is pleased with this.

Christ came to deliver man from sin, not allow him to live in sin.
28 posted on 04/27/2013 4:14:30 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

But if these boys who are in Scouts are following the Scout code, are they not being delivered from their sin? At least for their time in Scouts they are celibate (or liars, as would be any boy who is sexually active in any way).


29 posted on 04/27/2013 4:21:23 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: Vigilanteman
.. constructively addresses a number of important issues that have been part of the ongoing dialogue ..

IOW:

Runs up the white flag in the face of enemy demands while they (enemy) stake out new ground for the next round of extortion


When one sees/hears Pod-speak, trust nothing that follows.

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30 posted on 04/27/2013 4:22:00 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: SoConPubbie

My point is that it’s a moot issue for Mormon Scout troops. All boys are expected to abstain fro any type of sexual activity, whether homosexual or heterosexual. If the boy who thinks he is gay can make it through the Scout program, the work of saving him from his sin is over halfway done.

I can see how this might be a problem for Scout troops that don’t expect honest adherence to the Scout code, but perhaps they need to reorganize their priorities.


31 posted on 04/27/2013 5:02:46 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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