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Finally, a Clearer Picture of the Chaotic Shootout in Watertown Emerges
AtlanticWire ^ | April 24, 2013 | Adam Clark Estes

Posted on 04/25/2013 11:23:57 PM PDT by Daffynition

There's a lot we still don't know about what happened in Boston last week. But new details that surfaced on Wednesday night reveal some key details that stand to change the timeline of the final 24 hours of the manhunt dramatically. Among other revelations, police are now saying that they don't believe Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the younger of the two brothers suspected of carrying out the attack, was armed when they opened fire on him Friday evening. In fact, authorities admit that the two brothers didn't quite have the small arsenal of weapons they thought they did — just one gun, a gun that wasn't anywhere near Dzhokhar when he was found in the boat after a shootout.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: boston; bostonbombing; islam; jihad; tsarnaev; watertown
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Still no *why*.
1 posted on 04/25/2013 11:23:57 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition
In related news from the same author: The Tsarnaev Brothers Chatted About Girls and the iPhone 5 During Their High-Speed Chase
2 posted on 04/25/2013 11:26:40 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Daffynition
Standing by for the "He is just a nice young man and was getting his life together" defense in 3...2...1....
3 posted on 04/25/2013 11:27:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Daffynition

Uh, Just one gun?

There are pictures of the shoot out where both of the bombers have guns in their hands and are shooting at police.

Who are you going to believe, the Gov or your lying eyes

You can’t make this stuff up.


4 posted on 04/25/2013 11:28:29 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Daffynition


5 posted on 04/25/2013 11:29:47 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: rdcbn

What’s funny is every word/report is being analyzed and autopsied...yet here in CT we still don’t have a police report about the Newtown slayings.


6 posted on 04/25/2013 11:31:18 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: rdcbn

So who/which one was throwing th4e bombs and when was the last one thrown?


7 posted on 04/25/2013 11:31:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Daffynition
This leads to the natural conclusion that the bombing, somehow, was funded by their drug money. But honestly, it's very tough to tell how they got the money they spent on the bombs.

Katherine Russell Tsarnaeva. Duh!

8 posted on 04/25/2013 11:33:36 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Smokin' Joe

Add to the pressure cooker a bunch of trigger happy bungling idiot cops.


9 posted on 04/25/2013 11:35:25 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: cynwoody

....That and welfare payments from the state of Massachusetts.


10 posted on 04/25/2013 11:35:50 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Daffynition


11 posted on 04/25/2013 11:36:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Daffynition
The fact of the matter is that this was a chaotic event, a random act of violence and ultimately an act of terrorism.

False on its face. No act can simultaneously be a random act of violence and an act of terrorism.

Where does the Atlantic hire these morons?

This was worshipers of the child-molester god, pure and simple!

12 posted on 04/25/2013 11:37:28 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: rdcbn

I thought #2 had a self inflicted gun shot to the throat as well... what happened to that version of the story?


13 posted on 04/25/2013 11:39:28 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like a painting by Whistler.


14 posted on 04/25/2013 11:40:37 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Daffynition

I beginning to wonder if there even was a shootout. i cannot belive the amount of disinformation that has been spewed in this whole mess. from the cars they were ,or werent driving, who they knew and didnt know, on and on and on. This is like playing that ole game telephone, where you whispered something in someones ear


15 posted on 04/25/2013 11:40:52 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Daffynition


16 posted on 04/25/2013 11:44:35 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

If he was shot in the head/neck, how could he pull himself up

where’s the blood?


17 posted on 04/26/2013 12:03:13 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: NautiNurse; Pikachu_Dad; sissyjane; penelopesire

ping


18 posted on 04/26/2013 12:09:29 AM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: nutmeg

Worth a read:

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/25/carjack-victim-recounts-his-harrowing-night/BhQWGzarWee8MZ6KtMHJNN/story.html


19 posted on 04/26/2013 12:13:19 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Daffynition

I’ll wonder now if Adam Lanza’s electronic communications reached all the way to Chechnya. His attack was very Beslan-esque and I thought so at the time. Maybe we should call the Boston bombers terrorists #2 & #3.


20 posted on 04/26/2013 12:14:41 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Christie at the beach
"If he was shot in the head/neck, how could he pull himself up where’s the blood?"

Ask CBS

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boat-owner-found-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-grateful-fund-raising-article-1.1325751

21 posted on 04/26/2013 12:16:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: 3Fingas
....That and welfare payments from the state of Massachusetts.

Supposedly, the wife (and doctor's daughter) worked 80 hour weeks as a home health aide. Admittedly, I don't know how that compares to welfare under the Regime.

I also recall reading somewhere that the payments ended when Joker and Speed Bump turned 18.

22 posted on 04/26/2013 12:17:38 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Daffynition; All

According to one report, a good friend had been killed, and the older brother became involved in religion shortly thereafter. I wonder what the circumstances of his friend’s death were?


23 posted on 04/26/2013 12:24:49 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: cynwoody

Yet they spent weekends at her parents’ house in R.I. So she worked 16 hours a day the other 5 days? Gee, what a great mother (not!). This is another bogus story that simply doesn’t add up.


24 posted on 04/26/2013 12:25:44 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: gleeaikin

The friend was murdered in September 2011 and he had “turned” long before that, so I doubt that had anything to do with it. Google Brendan Mess for the details.


25 posted on 04/26/2013 12:28:53 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Daffynition
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26 posted on 04/26/2013 12:34:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You Must be Hated by Evil.)
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To: Prince of Space
Yet they spent weekends at her parents’ house in R.I. So she worked 16 hours a day the other 5 days? Gee, what a great mother (not!). This is another bogus story that simply doesn’t add up.

Supposedly, Speed Bump took care of the Little One (Zahara Tsarnaeva), while her mother was working. That is, when he wasn't making bombs.

Which of course raises the obvious question, where did they build the devices? Given Katy claims she first learned of the scheme from the news media.

The best answer I've seen is Joker's dorm room at UMass Dartmouth. But that seems a crowded venue for such a sensitive task.

27 posted on 04/26/2013 12:42:48 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Daffynition

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28 posted on 04/26/2013 1:01:08 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: rdcbn

ABC reported the brothers were shooting with automatic weapons. I am curious why the details about their firearms seems so obscure.


29 posted on 04/26/2013 1:13:17 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Prince of Space; gleeaikin

Tamerlin is being looked at as a possible suspect in the murder case, now. Not only was one of the victims a “friend” of his, but all three of the victims were JEWS. Who had their THROATS SLIT on Sept. 11. Unsolved. There’s a thread on it here at FR...


30 posted on 04/26/2013 1:26:46 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Daffynition
Wasn't it also claimed that one of them took the MIT cops service sidearm? I recall hearing that.

CC

31 posted on 04/26/2013 1:27:13 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Tease not the dragon, for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Daffynition
What’s funny is every word/report is being analyzed and autopsied...yet here in CT we still don’t have a police report about the Newtown slayings.

Well, they said it would take six months for the report to come out.

Of course, by then only eeevil Conservatives and gun nuts will be interested in what really happened, and the web will have been scrubbed of anything not easily dismissed as media error or conspiracy theory.

32 posted on 04/26/2013 1:32:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: easternsky

That’s on this thread...pix at source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3011963/posts


33 posted on 04/26/2013 2:14:40 AM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yeppers. We’ll only get what fits the left agenda.

I get the sinking feeling that soon, we’ll all be tuned into a single radio station in the dead of night...called *Voice of America8 or *Radio Free Europe*.....broadcast from some secret, remote place.


34 posted on 04/26/2013 2:19:53 AM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Smokin' Joe

SAY....di ent he run around with the wrong crowd when he was just a yute?


35 posted on 04/26/2013 2:33:53 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: gleeaikin

People who knew the dead man and Tamerlan now believe Tamerlan was the killer.


36 posted on 04/26/2013 2:39:15 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: cynwoody

Really, how could the bombs have cost?

Pressure cooker, powder from fireworks, nails and bbs from Home Depot?

These were not neutron bombs.


37 posted on 04/26/2013 3:00:48 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Celtic Conservative

From the article cited here: **Law enforcement believes that the Tsarnaev brothers tried and failed to steal Collier’s gun after shooting him from behind, the first of several things that went wrong for the two young suspected terrorists that night.**


38 posted on 04/26/2013 3:29:33 AM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Vermont Lt

These people are conspiracy theorists. They are just waiting for the conspiracy to take shape.

Starting from the bombing with a very chaotic situation involving tens of thousands of people. Throw in a news media last week in an absolutely desperate frenzy for ANYTHING to post on their websites, and you get a lot of weird, irrelevant, bad, incorrect and confused timelines with varying info of varying accuracy out in the world.

Then add paranoid conspiracy theorists of the anti-Police, anti-Government, anti-Muslim, pro-Muslim, pro-gun, anti-gun on and on and these people desperately trying to shape a narrative (that is already riddled with inaccuracies anyway) to fit their ideological needs.

Then to top it all off you have the police and legal authorities trying to actually build a legal case against the remaining terrorist and anyone who may or may not have helped him, and therefore wanting to keep a lid on what goes out in public, especially the more accurate stuff...

...and you have for me the PERFECT STORM OF BULLSHIT that means I can no longer read anything online about this whole case.

Iknow who did the actual bombing, I’ll wait a few months to find out what else is known about why, how and who helped them. But the lunacy of people who want there to be an elaborate hoax somewhere in here, frankly scares me.


39 posted on 04/26/2013 3:33:08 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: cynwoody

In using a nauseating liberal theme, rather than being a clever play on words, it is a simple matter of a liberal showing their ideological underwear to readers:

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40 posted on 04/26/2013 3:34:27 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: easternsky

“I beginning to wonder if there even was a shootout.......”
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The cops’ shootOUT evolves into a shootAT.


41 posted on 04/26/2013 4:22:52 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: JoeProBono

42 posted on 04/26/2013 5:58:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Daffynition

the Keystone coppers, Homeland Insecurity and federal bureau of folkups HUGE FAIL


43 posted on 04/26/2013 6:06:07 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: cynwoody

that’s right, an act of terrorism is well planned, not random


44 posted on 04/26/2013 6:07:13 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Smokin' Joe

He be a good boy.

He be getting his life together.

He be havin pressure cooker to make baby food for his baaaaby.


45 posted on 04/26/2013 6:36:41 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: rdcbn

it seems obvious from the pics and videos of the shootout.

wonder why they’re pushing this ...


46 posted on 04/26/2013 6:45:52 AM PDT by fnord (My life is like the movie Willard, except with hummingbirds)
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To: Daffynition
it was also revealed on Wednesday night that the Tsarnaev brothers used a remote control to detonate the bombs on Marathon Monday. According to Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, a Maryland Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, it was the same kind of remote control used for remote control cars.

That fairly obvious from the photos on the day of the explosions. No burned up cell phone guts, just RC receiver guts and battery.

47 posted on 04/26/2013 6:47:58 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: nutmeg

Not sure this picture IS becoming more clear, do you?? Every day it seems to get more muddied...lol.


48 posted on 04/26/2013 8:09:58 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Vermont Lt
Really, how could the bombs have cost?

Not much. But, based on the report they bought $200 worth of fireworks containing about three pounds of extractable powder, they overpaid. A Fagor 6-qt pressure cooker is about $70 (unless you have one of the females boost it). The detonation system was made from a model-car remote (probably plus a carefully broken Christmas tree bulb).

These were not neutron bombs.

According the AQ Chef, these were not even chemical bombs. He reserves the term "chemical" for high (or "military grade") explosives, such as TNT, C4, and RDX. Rather, these were "mechanical" explosions in his classification, resulting from the deflagration of an inflammable material within a confined space.

49 posted on 04/26/2013 11:44:24 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Daffynition

The behavior is typical for criminals who ‘believe’ they cannot be caught...and won’t be.


50 posted on 04/26/2013 11:52:00 AM PDT by caww
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