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ACLU Backs Montgomery County Student Who Refuses to Say Pledge of Allegiance
NBC 4 DC ^ | 4/25/2013 | Erika Gonzalez

Posted on 04/26/2013 4:29:41 AM PDT by markomalley

She's an honor roll student and accomplished violinist.

She also refuses to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

Enidris Siurano, a student at Damascus High School, was born in Puerto Rico. Siurano says she hasn't recited the pledge since seventh grade to protest the political situation there.

"The government that's there should be the one that's running it, not one that's miles and miles away," she said.

But only recently has her refusal caused so much turmoil that she and her family turned to the ACLU of Maryland.

"Enidris was repeatedly directed by her teacher to stand," said an ACLU attorney.

In a letter to the superintendent, the ACLU said that Siurano is being harassed, that she was called out of class and told to report to the assistant principal's office.

"She told me that I was disrespecting the military and military families and students who had family in the military," Siurano said.

In a statement, Montgomery County Schools said they're looking into the situation, and that students can't be compelled to participate in patriotic activities. If they are, or if they're punished for not complying, that's not in compliance with MCPS rules.

Siurano said she does not mean to disrespect anyone or her country -- and she feels she is honoring the freedoms of her country with her protest.

"It's not biting the hand that feeds you because the hand that feeds you allows you to do that," Siurano said, "and they can't stop me from doing that."

The ACLU of Maryland says this is not the first time a case of alleged harassment has happened within Montgomery County Public Schools over not reciting the pledge.

The group is requesting a meeting with school officials and an apology to be made to Siurano and her family.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: aclu; immigrants; ingrates; pledgeofallegiance
Classless move on the part of this PR chica. If she doesn't consider herself an American, so be it, but at least show a little respect by standing. I'd say, "go back to your country," but, last time I checked, Puerto Rico was a part of the US. In fact, at the last vote, they wanted to become a state.

So if she doesn't like the US, then maybe she should go to the Dominican Republic or some other island in the Caribbean...where she can be "free."

1 posted on 04/26/2013 4:29:41 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I agree. Indeed, any person who comes here and tries to change our culture should just go back where they came from or to a place where their views are more acceptable. I think she’d be comfortable in Haiti.


2 posted on 04/26/2013 4:34:42 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: markomalley

I wonder how they would feel if she refused to say the Pledge because she didn’t like the President.


3 posted on 04/26/2013 4:35:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: markomalley

> The Damascus High School student said she’s protesting the political situation in Puetro Rico. Although the school district doesn’t require students to recite the pledge, the girl said she’s been harassed over the issue.

Nobody’s making her recite the pledge. It’s just that she doesn’t like other students exercizing their right to free speech in condemning her actions.
Learn to live with it, honey, the world doesn’t revolve around you.


4 posted on 04/26/2013 4:42:38 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: markomalley

Is the American Communist Liberties Union going to back the student who was kicked out for wearing a pro-military tee shirt (because her father is in the military)?

Is the American Communist Liberties Union going to back the student who was kicked out for wearing a pro-NRA tee shirt?

Didn’t think so.

Hey, chirping little bird, do you realize that despite your being an honor student and all that other ‘stuff’ that society says makes you smarter than everyone else that you are just a stupid little sheep in a big herd of stupid little sheep.

I watch from beyond the fence and laugh at you stupid little sheep being led to the slaughter house.

No, I will not save you when the time comes.


5 posted on 04/26/2013 4:44:38 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: markomalley

Somehow, the little tiny violin illustration comes to mind...


6 posted on 04/26/2013 4:47:55 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: markomalley

Deport her.


7 posted on 04/26/2013 4:59:26 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: markomalley

You are all dead wrong in your criticism of her refusal to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. For very good reasons I have given in FreeRepublic previously, every true Patriot of America ought to refuse or respect others who refusee to with a tool for totalitarianism created by and for socialists using it as a tool of social indoctrination and authoritarian rule. You all owe this young lady an apology for not making the effort to get past the prejudice and attempting to understand the nature of the conflict.


8 posted on 04/26/2013 5:02:28 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: WhiskeyX
I wonder what color;

"The ACLU of Maryland says this is not the first time a case of alleged harassment has happened within Montgomery County Public Schools over not reciting the pledge. The group is requesting a meeting with school officials and an apology to be made to Siurano and her family."

and how large a package said "apology" will be ?

9 posted on 04/26/2013 5:06:35 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Never mind her particular case and motivations. Concentrate on yourself and your own motivations for reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. The vast majority of Americans reflexively recite the Pledge as a duty that is unquestioned and certainly not understood with respect to its purpose and consequences. Many people I’ve spoken to have become not just a little horrifiedd to discover the true nature of the Pledge and how it subverts the spirit and perhaps the letter of the founding principles and docuemnts of the United States democratic republic. The Oath of Loyalty is appropriate where the Pledge of Allegiance is arguably destructive of the American Revolutionary principles and promotes totalitarianism.


10 posted on 04/26/2013 5:15:48 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: markomalley
Puerto Rico was NEVER a country ~ it started out as a possession of Spain (they took it away from the Taino ( Arawak ) Indians who'd themselves only recently taken it from the Carrib Indians ~ or vice versa.

The island was divided into several different mini-states.

The Spanish found it a convenient base for their military forces in the Americas and that was it's primary use for several centuries. The United States then acquired it from Spain and organized it under well practiced 'territorial' laws. in 1948 all Puerto Ricans became citizens of the United States, and as far as I know the USA is the first nation state on the planet to do that.

The young lady is sadly mistaken in her beliefs.

11 posted on 04/26/2013 5:19:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WhiskeyX

maybe, maybe not ~ the Apostles Creed wasn’t handed down by God on a tablet either, but most Christians recite it frequently. (BTW, some don’t ~ but that’s not the point of my comment ~ )


12 posted on 04/26/2013 5:21:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WhiskeyX
Look here, filthy commies came up with the phrase 'and his running dog lackeys' yet it is so applicable to leftwingtards and their evil spawn that I just can't help using it.

Same with the pledge ~ the designer may have been nasty, but he accidentally came up with something we can rub in the left's face ~ then, grind them under our boots!

13 posted on 04/26/2013 5:23:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WhiskeyX
WHAT, pray tell, are the "purpose and consequences" of the Pledge ? (your caps)

Whom are these "many people" you've spoken to that discover such a horrific "true nature" (which itself should be defined) ?

Your reply is intrigueing.

14 posted on 04/26/2013 5:28:28 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: WhiskeyX

Amen. I just wish the ACLU was consistent with who they defend.


15 posted on 04/26/2013 5:29:43 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: BuffaloJack
Nobody’s making her recite the pledge. It’s just that she doesn’t like other students exercizing their right to free speech in condemning her actions.

If you read the article, the girl is saying that she's being harassed by teachers and/or school administrators (was called to an assistant principal's office). If what she's saying is true, then she's in the right here - we may disagree with what she's doing and why (I certainly do), but that does not give the government the right to harass her for it.

16 posted on 04/26/2013 5:46:51 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: muawiyah

The Pledge of Allegiance was written by co-authors who were socialists and/or Marxists whose stated goal was the development of social and economic equality by forcible redistribution of wealth by a U.S. Government owning all public businesses and enterprise. The purpose of the Pledge of Allegiance was to divert public support and indoctrinate the public into supporting a public education system controlled by the National Education Association (NEA) and its objective of making hijacking U.S. eduucation and remodeling it after the Prussian authoritarian and totalitarian methods.

They intended for the Pledge of Allefiance to divert public loyalty away from the Constittion and its principles of individual and familial civil rights and redirect those loyalties towards a flag and U.S. Government controlled by a totalitarian socialist rregime dedicated to engineering social submission and loyalties to the NEA agenda for political and social indoctrination.

By contrast, the Oath of Loyalty I swore to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, is prootective of the Revoultionary human principles which the Pledge of Allegiance would subvert in favor of an anti-Constittional government.

It should be noted the Pledge of Allegiance had no official standing in the U.S. Government until the ultra-socialist Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his openly Communist Vice President enacted legislation aiding the NEA to indoctrinate our children and adult population with this foreign and totalitarian tool.

If you want a pledge of allegiance, why not write and adopt a pledge of allegiance which fosters voluntary allegiance to the principles of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution instead of the socialist=Marxist hijacking of our society?
The way things stand now, too any would be Patriots are defending a nest full of eggs and chicks which another bird long ago replaced with its own brood after killing the original brood of the nest owner.


17 posted on 04/26/2013 5:53:45 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: markomalley

there is the issue of standing vs the issue of reciting

she should be made to stand as a sign of respect for the beliefs of others and the flag of the nation in which she is residing. No country would expect less

reciting, she can keep her mouth shut. hopefully her family is not collecting benefits from this govt she despises apart from the about $14K a year taxpayers are spending on her “free” education


18 posted on 04/26/2013 5:57:07 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: WhiskeyX
I never said the Pledge of Allegiance that I remember; we said prayers to God at my private school.

Pledging "allegiance" to the "Republic," at least in its current iteration, is not something I am willing to do.

19 posted on 04/26/2013 5:57:10 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: WhiskeyX
That's all well and good but you do know the Supreme Court said, during wartime even, that the Jehovah's Witnesses ~ a known front for domestic commies at the time ~ did not have to stand for the pledge.

See, there's always more than one side to this.

20 posted on 04/26/2013 6:00:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: knarf

Some of the many people I’ve discussed this with in the recent past include teachers, educational admistrators, a legislator who was perturbed enough to listen and take it to heart, and an assortment of people in business and the military who though surprised did investigate for themselves. I’ve been asked before to write a private essay for soem of their groups. I encourage people to look into it for themselves and look very very closely at the history of the American educational system and its links to the socialist-Communist movements since the American Revolution. The Pledge of Allegiance and its history are inextricably linked to the socialist-marxist agenda in the United States. The NEA was founded in 1857 by a socialist/Marxist, and the Pledge of Allegiance was written to help the NEA achieve its socialist-Marxist agendda.


21 posted on 04/26/2013 6:05:12 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: muawiyah

Of course there is, but that does nothing to change the general effect and its usage to promote unthinking obediance to a alien political movement intent upon destroying individual and familial civil rights and the Constitutional guarantee of a republican form of government.


22 posted on 04/26/2013 6:10:57 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

How do you feel about the Oath of Loyalty we take in milittary and public service?


23 posted on 04/26/2013 6:12:28 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: WhiskeyX

And lets not forget the nifty little salute they used to make the kids throw before the guy with the funny mustache gave it a bad rep.


24 posted on 04/26/2013 6:15:15 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: silverleaf

If the Democrats overtly ditched the Constitution, would you still insist upon yourself and others to recite or at least standup in respect for the Pledge of Allegiance to a Flag which then repesents an anti-Constitutional regime, and perhaps an illegal regime?


25 posted on 04/26/2013 6:16:14 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: markomalley
Mixed feelings on this one
Being forced to recite a pledge, you personally disagree with is offensive. Smacks of a POlice state.

We have an organization here in our little town that required all members to recite the Pledge of Allegiance at each meeting.
This being a group dedicated to helping keep the town clean and neat by picking up trash and litter on a weekly basis.
Our winter Visitors from Canada(propety owners here) refused to recite the pledge and left the group.
I should have.
Uber Patriots sometimes forget, some people have good reasons to refuse.
Good reasons that have nothing to do with hating the U.S. but everything with loving their own country.

26 posted on 04/26/2013 6:18:09 AM PDT by Tupelo (The Government lies, then the media lies to cover up the government lies.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Then we can adjust it ~ but I want it to be adusted to my point of view, and not yours.


27 posted on 04/26/2013 6:18:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WhiskeyX

Means nothing to me. My only loyalty is to God. All other relations are contingent.


28 posted on 04/26/2013 6:23:34 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Orangedog

Exactly. FDR’s Administration suddenly changed the Pledge of Allegiance salute from the outstretched arm typical of the Fascists to the hand over heart salute.The whole purpose of the Pledge of Alleigance is to instill a public embracement of unthinking obediance and loyalty to a regime and its falg more so than to the human principles and government of the People and by the People under a republican form of government guaranteeing the civil rights of individuals and families.
Hitler’s NAZI Germany, Mussolini’s Fascist Italy, the Communist regimes, and other totalitarian governemnts have all demanded such involuntary pledges of allegiance to their regimes as a means of using peer pressure and intimidation.


29 posted on 04/26/2013 6:24:07 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Many of the Founding Fathers would concur with your view.


30 posted on 04/26/2013 6:25:19 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: markomalley

...and what will happen to me when someone standing close to me during the pledge hears me say “stood” instead of “stands”? ..that one word change makes it a memorial lament instead of a pledge of allegiance to a government I no longer recognize as mine to be proud of and defend.


31 posted on 04/26/2013 6:36:56 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: muawiyah

“I want it to be adusted to my point of view, and not yours.

That is of course anti-American due to its totalitarian approach to destroying individual and familial civil rights to live in freedom from om government powers not delegated to the government.

Why isn’t the Oath of Loyalty good and sufficient?


32 posted on 04/26/2013 6:39:02 AM PDT by WhiskeyX (The answer is very simple and easy to understand economics. The U.S. Treasury is printing vast)
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To: markomalley
Unexpected
33 posted on 04/26/2013 6:39:35 AM PDT by tomkat (a nation of spoiled children being 'led' by the very parents who excused their petulance)
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To: WhiskeyX
a tool for totalitarianism created by and for socialists using it as a tool of social indoctrination and authoritarian rule.

That's interesting. But if that's the case, it apparently didn't work as intended. Most of the patriots who quote the Constitution today grew up happily reciting the Pledge, and the socialists, liberty-haters, and 0bama cultists are the ones (by and large) who refuse to say it or stand for it.

Looks like the socialists' karma ran over their dogma.

34 posted on 04/26/2013 6:44:35 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: WhiskeyX

yes
but your question is twisted and illogical
they cannot “change” what the flag represents
the flag does not represent the “Constitution”.... or any other govt document
It represents ideals from our founding
(50) stars for a new constellation of unity in federalism
“The star is a symbol of the heavens and the divine goal to which man has aspired from time immemorial; the stripe is symbolic of the rays of light emanating from the sun.”

13 stripes for the original colonies, and bravery of them all

red white and blue for colors taken form the Great Seal
“The colors of the pales (the vertical stripes) are those used in the flag of the United States of America; White signifies purity and innocence, Red, hardiness & valour, and Blue, the color of the Chief (the broad band above the stripes) signifies vigilance, perseverance & justice.”

So you see, to ditch those ideals, they would have to ditch the flag for a new standard.

Therefore those ideals our flag symbols represent are worthy of respect, even if men and women holding office are not.

http://usflag.org/colors.html


35 posted on 04/26/2013 6:44:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: WhiskeyX
i'm satisfied that the present oath is not totalitarian at all ~ and most folks don't work for the government. Any oath based on the 2 inside the Constitution, that is forced on people who neither run for office, voluntarily join the military, or hire on as government employees would, by the very definition, be involved in an act of totalitarianism.

Frankly, the only complaint anyone has about the current 'pledge', not an oath at all, is disrespect extended to those who say it by those who hate us and want to see us die in a thermonuclear holocaust ~ like that puerto rican kid who is wasting a desk in montgomery county.

36 posted on 04/26/2013 6:52:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: markomalley
She also refuses to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance

The government is not constitutionally empowered to force one to say something or to force someone not to say something. This applies to all speech including prayer.

The government is not constitutionally empowered to force someone to buy something or to force someone not to buy something.

The government is not constitutionally empowered to force someone to marry or to force someone to not marry.

The government is not constitutionally empowered to force someone to burn the flag or to force someone to not burn the flag.

The government is not constitutionally empowered to force someone to abort a baby or to force someone not to abort a baby.

37 posted on 04/26/2013 9:23:51 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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38 posted on 04/26/2013 7:01:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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