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Samsung Trouncing Apple Gangnam Style
Forbes ^ | 4/26/2013 @ 8:36AM | Peter Cohan

Posted on 04/26/2013 7:16:01 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

Gangnam style is trouncing Cupertino’s when it comes to high tech pre-eminence. You may remember the wild popularity of Psy’s video celebrating the upscale Gangnam shopping district of Seoul, Korea.
And a look at Samsung’s latest financial report suggests that Cupertino-based Apple is falling behind fast. After all Samsung — the world’s leader in computer memory chips, televisions, mobile handsets and LCD panels — took a huge chunk out of Apple’s hide in the first three months of 2013.
How so? According to Strategy Analytics, Samsung took about 33% of the global smartphone market in the first quarter to Apple’s roughly 18%. And while Samsung’s smartphone sales surged 56% to 69.4 million units, Apple shipments grew a mere 6.6% to 37.4 million units.
And Samsung is not giving up profit as it gulps Apple’s market. According to the New York Times, about 75% of Samsung’s profits came from “the division that makes smartphones, tablets, personal computers and cameras.”
And compared to Apple, Samsung’s revenues and profits are soaring. While Apple revenue rose 11%, Samsung’s sales spurted 17% to $47.6 billion. And as Apple’s net income fell 18%, Samsung enjoyed a 42% profit explosion to $6.5 billion.
What is behind Samsung’s massive success? It certainly doesn’t help that Apple is turning into a lumbering dinosaur — it has no plans to introduce any major new products until the fall of 2013. And if the iPhone 5 that it introduced last fall is any indication, that may not be much to get excited about.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; microsoft; samsung; smartphones

1 posted on 04/26/2013 7:16:01 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

I dunno how, but we need to create an America which innovates and produces again.

Now.

No more buying imports. Make good stuff here.


2 posted on 04/26/2013 7:17:43 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SmokingJoe

Can we please lose that stupid “word” gangnam?


3 posted on 04/26/2013 7:19:21 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SmokingJoe

I’ve been helping my brother buy a Mac. They are grossly inflated. They call a 2 Core I5 Mini Mac with Intel 4000 GPU a graphics machine? Freeper please.


4 posted on 04/26/2013 7:19:41 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: SmokingJoe

I own a Samsung Galaxy S3 and an iPhone 5. The iPhone 5 was given to me by my employer, which is why I own it. It compares well with the S3, which is good because the S3 made me give up my iPhone 4S (the S3 was simply that good). Unfortunately for Apple the Galaxy S4 is here. If it sells as well as the S3 did that will be another major win for Samsung.


5 posted on 04/26/2013 7:21:17 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

I went in Best Buy yesterday, and they are in the process of setting up a “Samsung mini-store” that is going to be bigger than the Apple mini-store they already have in the store, and it’s also better positioned. I talked to the guy and he told me that Samsung is killing Apple in the smartphone market in their store.


6 posted on 04/26/2013 7:26:48 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: spetznaz

Samsung has done it right, coming out with the absolute best phone that can be provided by current technology, whereas, Apple choose the path of only providing what it can control.

Nokia is following a similar path as Samsung, so I think the next premier Nokia will be very similar in quality as Samsung.

I’m personally very happy with my Nokia, just to be clear on my bias.


7 posted on 04/26/2013 7:27:05 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SmokingJoe

Strong competition is only good for the consumer. I’m Apple with all my “stuff”, and having their clocks cleaned only means a better price and product for me long run. Microsoft wilted without a viable competitor for many years.


8 posted on 04/26/2013 7:28:44 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: spetznaz

I actually just bought an S3 (arriving today). Amazon is selling them now for $49 since the S4 is about to be released. The upgrades on the S4 simply weren’t enough for me to warrant paying an extra $200. Plus, I know the S3 is a great phone while the S4 may or may not run into some quirks. I have been due for an upgrade since September, but my Droid 2 is finally hitting the skids. Looking forward to having a functional phone again.


9 posted on 04/26/2013 7:34:32 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: SmokingJoe
I own an Apple 4s and I like it. But every time Apple comes out with a new something they completely and needlessly change everything. The 36 pin connector (all previous iPhones) to the 8 pin connector (iPhone 5) rendered every clock, speaker system, etc. useless, save the Apple adapter for a mere $25!

Apple got greedy and changed everything because they had a religious fan base that worshiped everything Apple and paid twice the going rate for anything with an Apple logo on it. But these idolaters are a fickle bunch who really chase technology to have the coolest whatever.

I still like my iPhone and all iTunes music, although I hate the new iTunes platform because it sucks!

Yes, Apple has become a lumbering corporate giant that has resolved to create the best color screen available that no one can really notice any way rather than innovate and give the customer what he demands.

10 posted on 04/26/2013 7:37:24 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Its going to get really bad for Apple and I can’t say I’ll feel bad for them because its their own damn fault. I’ve seen this play out before during the 80s. Apple cast itself as the smug yuppie computer and pcs though inferior in design whooped them till the company was almost dead. Apple came back and for a time it looks as though it had learned its lesson but again it has demonstrated that it loves its proprietary smugness and peddles products for a premium that don’t even exceed the specs of competitor products as if the brand is enough. Well it isn’t.

Samsung has continued to improve its products steadily. I’ve had my frustrations since switching from an Iphone but those have been reduced to nothing. My Galaxy Note II is an excellent phone and there is nothing I desire to do with it that I can not. The new Galaxy S4 is not just an improvement over the iPhone but is in a whole other league. Apple will always have its minority loyal following but its products are no longer the best designed nor the best performing but they are still the highest priced and if they don’t learn to be more customer oriented they are going to find themselves back in the place where they were before the iPhone.


11 posted on 04/26/2013 7:42:32 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Obadiah

I got frustrated. At first my Iphone was the best thing since sliced bread but it ended up having all the same kind of problems I had with other phones plus I couldn’t replace the battery nor use a micro sd which I could do with previous phones. The Iphone was the first Apple product I’d bought for myself and unfortunately for them it was the last. I just like the freedom I have with my Android phone.


12 posted on 04/26/2013 7:46:58 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: spetznaz

This is my 4th Samsung, Galaxy II, absolutely love it, with no guilt since there’s a Samsung plant here in Austin. I even my have my old phones, I’m that loyal.


13 posted on 04/26/2013 7:48:11 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

Well, except the charging, which is never-ending. They need to
work on a better battery.


14 posted on 04/26/2013 7:49:20 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Obadiah
completely and needlessly change everything. The 36 pin connector (all previous iPhones) to the 8 pin connector (iPhone 5)

A 36-pin connector doesn't fit in the iPhone 5's casing unless they remove other stuff. At some point, you've got to let go of old designs (the 36-pin connector goes all the way back to 2001, IIRC). I do think their converters and replacement cables are ridiculously overpriced, though.

15 posted on 04/26/2013 7:53:01 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I dunno how, but we need to create an America which innovates and produces again. Now. No more buying imports. Make good stuff here.

Apple used to source and assemble its products within the US. Then it had a near-death experience. Jobs moved it all overseas. Apple shareholders have seen the stock move up 50x in the past 16 years, based on its recently deflated stock price.

16 posted on 04/26/2013 8:25:07 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: AppyPappy

There are actually a few value products, but most of it are overpriced products.

iMacs are not a value. I’d suggest going to the refurb area of the website. Refurbs are returned machines, problems corrected, innards placed in a new shell, and tested. They are often tested better than new machines.

As far as value, you can not find a windows machine that match the specs of a retina MBP. If you don’t need those specs, then of course it looks overpriced.

In closing, it depends on what you need. If you would be satisfied with a $400 windows laptop, then of course you are silly for looking at a mac.


17 posted on 04/26/2013 8:42:21 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: AppyPappy
They are great machines, but expensive. However, the so-called Ultrabooks are just as expensive as MacBook Pros these days. It turns out that if you try to make something small and elegant and powerful, it costs more.

I can make a Mac desktop myself for about half the cost. It would look something like this:

Not as elegant, but it runs Apple's OS just as well as the real thing.

I can also convert certain models of laptops into Macs. I have done that with 3 HP laptops and a Toshiba. My sister didn't have the budget for a new Mac laptop for her son. But she got him an HP Probook for under $500, and I converted it so that it can dual boot either Mac or Windows 8. He loves it. For more info on how to do it, check out www.tonymacx86.com.

But if you have the money for the best, then get the real thing. My main computer right now is a MacBook Pro from 2011, core i7, still very powerful.

18 posted on 04/26/2013 8:52:28 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: SengirV

Intel 4000 graphics is Intel 4000 graphics. A similar outfitted Windows box is always cheaper than a Mac. They all use the same parts except maybe for the displays on a Mac.

It’s all in the software.


19 posted on 04/26/2013 9:18:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Obadiah
But every time Apple comes out with a new something they completely and needlessly change everything. The 36 pin connector (all previous iPhones) to the 8 pin connector (iPhone 5) rendered every clock, speaker system, etc. useless, save the Apple adapter for a mere $25!

Your kidding right? They had the same style of connector for around TEN YEARS! That is unheard of in the tech world. That is hardly changing 'every time'.

I hate the new iTunes platform because it sucks!


Have you tried turning the side bar back on in the options? Because the new version is much better than the old one once you turn that back on.
20 posted on 04/26/2013 1:04:46 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: AppyPappy
A similar outfitted Windows box is always cheaper than a Mac.

That is true for the towers, but ceratinly for the macbooks it isn't. If you take into account 'compact size' as a feature worth money (which it is to many people) and compare them to PCs with similar size then you see they cost roughly the same.
21 posted on 04/26/2013 1:10:36 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: SmokingJoe
Steve Jobs. One guy drove the company and he's dead. Last time Steve left, the company about died. What is the reason to expect anything different this time? Yes, he set some things in motion before his death, but a tree that is cut down will stay green for while too.

There's no sign of innovation from Apple anymore. It's really just a cash cow to reaped. In fact, the management has so little idea of what to do, they're buying back something like $75 billion of Apple stock. Sounds like they'd be smarted to buy Samsung stock.

22 posted on 04/26/2013 1:19:14 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: TalonDJ

Here’s a i7/2.9/4000 Mac for $1,679
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834100229

Here’s a similar Sony with a better video card for $1,200.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127875


23 posted on 04/26/2013 1:23:45 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
There's no sign of innovation from Apple anymore. It's really just a cash cow to reaped.

True. But Samsung has been basically copying Apple. I don't see a huge gulf opening.

Apple has the advantage of owning the entire operation, which will always give them an advantage on usability and prettiness.

24 posted on 04/26/2013 1:28:29 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I buy good stuff, I don’t care where it’s made. Some is from here, some is from elsewhere. Aim for quality, the manufacturers worry about where it’s made.


25 posted on 04/26/2013 1:30:19 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

They were never really that innovative, what they always did well was figure out what other people were doing wrong in a market that was going to “emerge” as soon as somebody did it right. And then they’d do it right and get credited with being first, even though they weren’t, though they were often the first to do it well, and definitely the first to sell millions of it.


26 posted on 04/26/2013 1:34:55 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: TalonDJ

Thanks for the tip.


27 posted on 04/26/2013 2:28:02 PM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: AppyPappy

Didn’t think there wAs an iMac that came with only the 4000. iMacs usually have discrete graphics.


28 posted on 04/27/2013 5:49:58 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: SengirV

I never mentioned an iMac. I mentioned a Mac Mini. I think you have me confused with someone else.


29 posted on 04/27/2013 5:57:33 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Two or three years ago I thought apple would do for tv what iPod did for music. Today the tech guy said on the radio apple backing off. Amazon Netflix and others seem to be the next tv thing. Or maybe direct or dish will offer something spectacular.

Been with apple since 1986. Love my iPad-phone-desktop, but don’t know what they can or will do next.

I think a watch and glasses are too small and gimmicky. Don’t see the market.

Got the 5 phone, but almost went gal 111. Apple fits in my shirt pocket better.


30 posted on 04/27/2013 6:22:07 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: AppyPappy

You are correct. Apple purposely gimps the mini so it does not compete with the iMac and MacBook Pro. It angers me, and is a reason I’ll not get a mini.

A couple years ago when they did have discrete GPU, it was the prior generation AND had half the amount of RAM for the GPU than anyone would deem a minimum amount.


31 posted on 04/28/2013 12:53:54 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: SengirV

It’s not just the GPU. They use laptop processors. Dual core i5? Please.


32 posted on 04/28/2013 1:24:57 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: yldstrk

gang=river, nam=south

South of the River

It is a place, not a description


33 posted on 04/28/2013 1:26:45 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: AppyPappy

Notice that the apple one is out of stock? Yeah, last year’s model and last year’s price.


34 posted on 04/30/2013 6:13:00 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

Got a link to this year’s model?


35 posted on 04/30/2013 6:15:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

Starting this year it is really hard to compare apples to apples (er... anyone else). They removed the optical drives from all their laptops and made them thinner. This means now their main line stuff falls somewhere on the product spectrum between an ‘ultrabook’ and a high end laptop... except everyone else’s high end ones have a DVD drive and are thicker. So to compare them you have to mentally estimate how much the size versus features are. It has ALWAYS been possible to buy thick and fast laptops cheaper than thinner slower ones.


36 posted on 04/30/2013 8:05:16 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: SmokingJoe
I switched away from Android to iPhone last year mainly because I was just sick to death of Samsung.

Once you buy into Android, you're loaded up with Samsung's uneraseable ching-bong-wang gookware apps, plus a bunch of other shitware from your service provider (Looking at you, Sprint PCS), and these apps all end up fighting with each other for the simplest tasks like launching a maps app or streaming music to a bluetooth headset. Lots of Samsung trash flat didn't even work, like 'Kies' desktop connectivity and the lousy embedded GPS hardware that can never find or keep a signal. Some of it's regional: Works in Europe and Asia, but unsupported in North America. Or, it's available on AT&T but not on Verizon or Sprint PCS. Just terrible.

When Google releases a new version of Android, you can pretty much forget about ever getting it on whatever Galaxy device you presently own. Only the people buying the latest new Samsung phone will get the new OS, and maybe if you're lucky Sprint/AT&T/Verizon will get their tailored version of Android-OS on your phone a year later. Once they get the new Android version, that's all they'll ever get. I had a Galaxy IIs that Sprint didn't roll out the new Android OS for until it was two versions and over a year behind, and even then they had to even rollback all the installations to fix bugs that crippled phones, erased data, and wouldn't let you restore from backup. Samsung blames the service carriers, and the service carriers blame Samsung, and then Samsung and the service carriers blame Google.

Who wants to go through this for a PHONE? It's like the and PC architecture form factor insanity of the 1990s is back in the year 2013 only for your Samsung/Sprint/Android phone: "Oh, your 16-bit ISA card needs to have IRQ7 because it's conflicting with your HDD controller in ISA slot 4, but you can't change the jumper. You can't put that 478-pin Pentium4 in that old PGA 423 socket. Hey, maybe if you changed your port addresses on COM:1 over to 02F8, then your sound card will work... Hey, can someone copy over the MS-DOS 6.22 version of io.sys to this boot floppy so I can boot my phone?"

GET. OUT. OF. HERE.

Fortunately, my Sprint contract expired and I told them to shove it up their butts and I went and got an iPhone. It works every time, seamlessly, and connects to every other Apple device I have. If they push a system update, I wake up and it's just on my iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV. Glorious.

Anyone buying Samsung garbage is just wowed by the big screens. Give it awhile, and they'll learn the hard way. Buy Samsung and you're boning yourself in the butt. It's a PHONE.

Finally, let me just say this: Anyone who owns a Microsoft Windows phone is just plain retarded.

37 posted on 07/02/2013 3:45:53 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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