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State: Marathon bomb suspects’ family received welfare, food stamps
Boston Globe ^

Posted on 04/26/2013 8:29:24 AM PDT by outpostinmass2

The family of Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the two brothers accused in the Boston Marathon bomb attacks, received food stamps and welfare when the brothers were growing up, according to a letter from the state Department of Transitional Assistance that was obtained by the Globe.

In the letter, sent Thursday to the chairman of the House Post Audit and Oversight Committee, the department outlined the benefits that the brothers had received through their parents, Anzor and Zubeidat, as well as benefits Tamerlan Tsarnaev later received as a member of his wife’s household.

Anzor and Zubeidat received Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits, commonly known as food stamps, from October 2002 to November 2004, when Dzhokhar would have been about 8 to 10 years old and Tamerlan 15 to 17. The family also received them from August 2009 to December 2011, according to the letter.

Anzor was also a Transitional Aid to Families with Dependent Children grantee from January 2003 to March 2003, and again from August 2009 to June 2010.

Transitional Aid to Families with Dependent Children is a state and federally funded program that provides cash assistance to families with children and pregnant women, according to the letter. The program is commonly known as welfare.

The Tsarnaev parents were eligible for benefits as legal non-citizen residents with asylum status who met the basic eligibility criteria, which include household income levels and dependent children, according to the letter. The Tsarnaev brothers were both in the country legally.

Tamerlan’s wife, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, also received food stamps and welfare benefits from September 2011 to November 2012, according to the letter.

Neither Tamerlan, who was 26 when he died last week, nor Dzhokhar, who is 19, ever directly received welfare or food stamps, according to the letter.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; bombing; boston; bostonbombing; bostonmarathon; foodstamps; immigration; marathon; mosque; welfare
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1 posted on 04/26/2013 8:29:24 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2
So tell me again, where they got the money for the fancy cars and fancy clothes? Was that their pre-suicide “live it up while you can” money from the Saudi royal family?
2 posted on 04/26/2013 8:31:44 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Robert357
P.S. Who was paying for the cell phone used at the time of the detonation of one of the bombs? Was that an Obama-phone?
3 posted on 04/26/2013 8:33:17 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Robert357
Why in the world would these guys need to beg chump change from the Saudis when right there in Boston you have a pretty good mob presence ~ they're always needing jobs done that only psycho killers can pull off, and there's Occupy Wallstreet ~ bunch of those guys in Boston, and backing them up are the remaining anarchist and communist party front organizations. They too have 'jobs' for suitable candidates.

This is Whitey Bulger country, and don't you forget it!

4 posted on 04/26/2013 8:42:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Robert357

The final information is not in on how the bombs were detonated but it’s believed they used a toy remote control device to do the job.


5 posted on 04/26/2013 8:43:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: outpostinmass2

bttt


6 posted on 04/26/2013 8:44:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: outpostinmass2
As someone who has worked many years with homeless programs through our church, goverment welfare is a contributor, not a solution to the problem.
7 posted on 04/26/2013 8:47:11 AM PDT by Shark24
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To: outpostinmass2

The wife moved out of state and back with her parents, her benefits didn’t end, they would come from another Sate. She left town and so went Tamerlan’s wife beating welfare layabout future with her. Worse, he was then on the hook for child support and with nobody to slap in the mouth no and again. He could’t even follow in his loser Father’s footsteps. Rage!


8 posted on 04/26/2013 8:49:37 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society"r)
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To: outpostinmass2

we gave these people welfare and citizenship and even school scholarships

because we Americans and our govt hate muslims

which is why we set up 9-11 to make muslims look bad

according to MRS Cuckoo the shoplifting mother of these 2 psychos

allu akbar


9 posted on 04/26/2013 8:51:57 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: outpostinmass2
I would like to know who paid for their tickets back and forth to the USA..they seemed to visit there often.
10 posted on 04/26/2013 8:52:15 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Robert357

There is more here than meets the eye - or TV, or newspapers, or response from government.

That said, this government allowed these posers into this country under the guise of ‘refugee’ where they assimilated - directly into the entitlement society that Obama has oh-so-carefully crafted. That special group of people that so easily become disenchanted when they don’t get all he promised, don’t get on E! or whatever show, or win the lottery they play that we pay for.

In the end, they become disenchanted and return to their roots. In this case, rabid diseased Muslim roots of hate and evil. They all have a little bit of it in them.


11 posted on 04/26/2013 8:52:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: PLD

From Russia..


12 posted on 04/26/2013 8:53:55 AM PDT by PLD
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To: outpostinmass2

“Give a man fish and .....” He’ll kill innocent people.


13 posted on 04/26/2013 8:58:25 AM PDT by ryan71 (The republican party is dead to me. Dead. Don't bother trying to revive it.)
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To: outpostinmass2
Tamerlan’s wife, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, also received food stamps and welfare benefits from September 2011 to November 2012, according to the letter.

The end of these benefits seems to correspond to the time that Tamerlan returned from his 6 month trip to Russia, and his mother's arrest for shoplifting, and the parent's exodus back to the "home" country.

14 posted on 04/26/2013 8:58:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: outpostinmass2

We can call this “state-sponsored terrorism”

Now its our own state that is sponsoring the terrorists.


15 posted on 04/26/2013 8:59:25 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Uncle Chip

Section 8 housing and Mass Health are not mentioned. Also college tuition and housing. No one ever gets off section 8. In fact come the first another check will be cut for their housing.


16 posted on 04/26/2013 9:00:35 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2
Marathon bomb suspects’ family received welfare, food stamps

SUSPECTS? The pos admitted he and his a..hole brother did it. If you saw the pictures of a guy being wheeld along with his leg just bone from midthigh down you'd think squeeze the dirtbag for all the information he has, try him, convict him, and sentence him to death. I haven't seen crap like that in 43 years, and it doesn't bring back pleasant memories.

17 posted on 04/26/2013 9:02:22 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: PGR88

Has anyone created a time line of the life of these losers? Would be really interesting to spread around media and FB.


18 posted on 04/26/2013 9:03:47 AM PDT by amadeus
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To: outpostinmass2

What I want to know is what were they seeking asylum from when they came to the US? If Russia was so bad, why did mom and pop move back?

A few years ago, I got involved with an extended family that came over from Russia. They were an ethnic minority that were given asylum n the US because of “persecution” in their homeland. But not the entire family came to the US. I asked them why one of the brothers stayed behind. The response was: “He owned a shop and was making pretty good money.”

All of the family that came over as refugees were receiving public assistance...


19 posted on 04/26/2013 9:04:38 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: ryan71
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20 posted on 04/26/2013 9:05:10 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: PLD
I would like to know who paid for their tickets back and forth to the USA.

Aid to Dependent Children [ADC] paid for his trips to and from Russia with Love.

His wife during that time was a mother with child without a father living in the household and entitled to ADC benefits.

21 posted on 04/26/2013 9:07:16 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Robert357

Tamerlan was reported to have sold drugs.


22 posted on 04/26/2013 9:07:42 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: outpostinmass2

Was this the house that the police raided the day after??

Was it the house that the Tsarnaev parents were living in before they left for Russia???


23 posted on 04/26/2013 9:09:23 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Shark24

Yep, welfare encourages people not to work because if you earn over a certain amount, the government starts reducing your welfare benefits.


24 posted on 04/26/2013 9:09:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: outpostinmass2

September 2012: Dzhokhar gets his citizenship. He could then legally buy, possess and travel with long guns. This gave Tamerlan access to the same guns and they could both train with guns. Could they risk possessing or traveling with guns prior to this, if say they were stopped for a traffic infraction and the cop smelled weed? No! Tamerlan wasn’t a citizen.

October 2012: Mom flees the country for native Chechnya rather than show up to court for felony shoplifting chargers. (No, she didn’t offer her hand be chopped off like a pius Muslim might)

November 2012: Tamerlan’s wife flees the State with the child to move back with the parents and takes the welfare/food stamp benefits with her.


25 posted on 04/26/2013 9:12:51 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Uncle Chip

section 8 follows you around no matter where you live. Lots of people have Boston housing section 8 and live on Cape Cod.


26 posted on 04/26/2013 9:13:55 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Uncle Chip

Was this the house that the police raided the day after??

Was it the house that the Tsarnaev parents were living in before they left for Russia???


They were all living in the very same three family house in Cambridge.


27 posted on 04/26/2013 9:14:56 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Uncle Chip

It’s over $3000 for a round trip ticket to Russia.


28 posted on 04/26/2013 9:15:02 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: Uncle Chip

How about his mother who is paying for her?She is returning with the terrorist’s father..I hope she is arrested when she gets off the plane..


29 posted on 04/26/2013 9:15:05 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Uncle Chip

How about his mother who is paying for her?She is returning with the terrorist’s father..I hope she is arrested when she gets off the plane..


30 posted on 04/26/2013 9:15:13 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Fitzy_888

November 2012: Tamerlan’s wife flees the State with the child to move back with the parents and takes the welfare/food stamp benefits with her.


She was still living in Cambridge with the terrorist. There are pictures of her going to her Cambridge home to pick up her belongings after the arrests.


31 posted on 04/26/2013 9:17:13 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

An interesting tidbit:

Chechen Terrorists Probed-Older piece “group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico in July.” (Although this was in 2004, there have been no reports since of the group being located, even after all these years. ) http://tinyurl.com/y6bm3oc

Saudi Students in U.S. Up More Than 500% Since Sept. 11, 2001 http://tinyurl.com/cclyy6q


32 posted on 04/26/2013 9:18:47 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: outpostinmass2

Yes. I missed that.


33 posted on 04/26/2013 9:21:39 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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Michelle Malkin: America's Insane Asylum for Jihadists, Hustlers and Frauds
Creators Syndicate | April 24, 2013 | Michelle Malkin FR Posted by jazusamo

In the aftermath of the Boston Marathon killing spree by foreign-born jihadists, see-no-evil bureaucrats in Washington are stubbornly defending America's lax asylum policies. DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano told the Senate Tuesday that the screening process is rigorous, effective and extensive.

These people can't handle the truth. Or tell it.

The Tsarnaev brothers reportedly were granted "asylum by derivative" status through their parents. After entering on short-term tourist visas, the mother and father (an ethnic Chechen Muslim) won "asylum" and acquired U.S. citizenship.

Next, younger son Dzhokhar obtained U.S. citizenship. Older son Tamerlan, whose naturalization application was pending, traveled freely between the U.S. and the jihad recruitment zone of Dagestan, Russia, last year before the bombers' gunfight in Watertown, Mass., last week left the Muslim terrorist dead.

Though they had convinced the U.S. that they faced deadly persecution, the Tsarnaevs' parents both returned to their native land and were there when their sons launched last week's terror rampage. Authorities will not reveal any details of the sob stories the Tsarnaevs originally spun to win asylum benefits for the entire family.

The whole thing stinks. And it's an old, familiar stench. Immigration lawyers have been working the system on behalf of asylum con artists for decades. The racketeers coach applicants with phony stories and documents from "chop shops" and game their way through "refugee roulette."

Asylum and refugee claimants are being rubber-stamped at all-time-high rates. Government data analyzed by the nonpartisan TRAC website show that "the odds of an asylum claim being denied in Immigration Court reached an historic low in FY 2012, with only 44.5 percent being turned down.

Ten years ago, almost two out of three (62.6 percent) individuals seeking asylum lost their cases in similar actions. Twenty years ago, fewer than one out of four (24 percent) asylum...(Excerpt) Read more at creators.com ...

34 posted on 04/26/2013 9:23:11 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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Many people are asking how the Boston bomber brothers lived lavishly, drove luxury cars, and had leisure time and money to buy and build deadly bombs...with no visible means of support. Monthly welfare check would not suffice---they had to have several other sources of income.

A look at Tamerlan's reading list on Amazon shows he researched forging phony identities---a practice very common in the latino community.

PUT THIS IN YOUR BROWSER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=1PNVMAW2D4CT1

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NJ BERGEN RECORD CIRCA 2004---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity (many latinos establish multiple identities in order to ride the US gravy train).

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said NJ state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

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Immigration reform is the gateway to terrorism. "Ethnic solidarity" is rearing its ugly head (think Boston bombers w/ a latino accent). US politicans are clearly colluding and conspiring with foreign agents to undermine US ntl security and placing Americans in danger. The word is out: " It's open season to conduct dirty deeds....and US politicans are helping us. So, all you "undocumented" terrorists, come on down---invade the US, and bring bombs "

Graphic courtesy of auntb.

35 posted on 04/26/2013 9:25:35 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: PLD

The mother is returning and was promised she wouldn’t be arrested.

You’d think the Russian’s would be making there life miserable, but then, if the attack wasn’t against them, maybe they would just rather lay low -not temped retribution from other Chechens.


36 posted on 04/26/2013 9:27:08 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Liz

What they haven’t told us the the TOTAL $$$$ value of all the benefits they received..that’s the key number..it will enrage people..


37 posted on 04/26/2013 9:30:05 AM PDT by ken5050 (Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but just about every terrorist is a Muslim..)
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HERE'S HOW THE TWO RUSSIAN IMMIGRANTS were funding their lavish lives---and munition purchases--on your dime. Russian emigres to the US claiming "asylum" receive a panoply of US freebies: they suck off American taxpayers bigtime---they collect generous monthly checks from SS without having put a dime into it.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the 26-year-old Chechen terrorist killed Friday morning in a wild shootout with Boston police, was a legal US resident. He could have been sent back to his homeland after a 2009 domestic violence conviction (wasn't his wife--the bum hit his grlfriend).

BUT thanks to Obama’s sucking up to ethnic solidarity terrorism, the prez sap-happily decreed that "deportations" are limited only to foreigners who committed “serious crimes”----Obama allowed the bomber to stay and do his dirty work.

The second bro/bomberDzhokhar Tsarnaev--now in a Boston hospital---was granted "asylum" in 2002.


After the murder of the MIT police officer, which occurred after the marathn bombings, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev rode in a carjacked auto. The murderous two then casually stopped at an ATM to withdraw cash.

The Chechneyan brothers did not seem to be "needy"----they were well-fed, attired in fashionable clothing---had cash in the bank---- and time and money to purchase components and make bombs. Traveled to Russia---(and elsewhere?) All without any visible means of support---like jobs.

There's a zillion ways the Chechneyan bombers were being financed by the same unsuspecting Bostonians they plotted asgainst....and other Americans. You can be sure the Brothers Tsarnaev knew the routine. Probably bought fake ID's to establish multiple identites to ride the US gravy train.

Claiming "asylum from Russian persecution" gets tham a wealth of tax-paid freebies---no questions asked----a policy dating back to WW 11. There's large SS checks, housing subsidies, instant welfare, food stamps, UI, EITC, SSI, education payments, free medical care.....and so on and so forth, ad infinitum, ad nauseaum.

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HOW MANY IDENTITIES AND FORGED DOCUMENTS DID THE BOMBER BROTHERS USE TO RIDE THE US GRAVY TRAIN? Check out Tamerlan's reading material here.....w/ the emphasis on forging identities.

PUT THIS IN YOUR BROWSER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html? ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=1PNVMAW2D4CT1

38 posted on 04/26/2013 9:32:33 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Fitzy_888
I think that someone is paying the crazy bitch to get on TV and spew her bull crap..She looks like the kind of woman that would sell her soul to the devil for a few pieces of silver..

Let her keep it up maybe she will scare other Muslims to come over here for us to take care of..Also maybe the Mexicans illegals might be watching her..

39 posted on 04/26/2013 9:39:46 AM PDT by PLD
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To: outpostinmass2

Here’s how the liberal ‘system’ works to prop up criminals... and how liberals protect killers and rapists. This lowlife raped a 70 year old woman then tried to hire a hit man to kill the woman and her daughter before his trial.

HE TOLD THE HIT MAN HE WOULD PAY WITH SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY HE WAS GOING TO RECEIVE. CONSIDERING HIS AGE THAT MEANS ‘DISABILITY’...

YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK PROPPING UP THE CRIMINAL CLASS SO THEY’LL VOTE 93% DEMOCRAT.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/man-accused-of-trying-to-kill-victim-before-tampa-rape-trial/2117355


40 posted on 04/26/2013 9:41:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: PLD

“How about his mother who is paying for her?”

local mosque collection basket?


41 posted on 04/26/2013 9:50:51 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: outpostinmass2

Talk about providing the tools for our own gravedigging.


42 posted on 04/26/2013 9:53:12 AM PDT by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: BlatherNaut

I thinking more like the Muslims in the white house..Wouldn’t the local mosque collection basket go to the terrorist that are trying to kill us..


43 posted on 04/26/2013 9:55:49 AM PDT by PLD
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To: ken5050; GOPJ

To get the $$$total ——it will take awhile for stupid govt factotums to sort throught the multiple identites the Tsarnaev’s established -—to ride the US gravy train.

You can bet they collected from every govt money pool out there——several times over-—and stupid govt officials signed off on all of it.

How stupid? After all, these are the people who voted in Kennedy, the Frank-ster, Kerry, Deval and Menino (barf.)


44 posted on 04/26/2013 10:05:53 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: outpostinmass2

Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop


45 posted on 04/26/2013 10:11:47 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: outpostinmass2

46 posted on 04/26/2013 10:16:08 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: PLD

Well I saw a pic of her the other day and she was carrying a Louis Vuitton handbag. They must not be doing too bad.


47 posted on 04/26/2013 10:18:06 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Robert357
If every month just one in every 50 people use the free phone to get a job, then...
Assumptions:
Results: <>P>I don't really have a problem with the government giving poor people phones. I'm more concerned about the outsourcing of our industries to communist countries and the availability of jobs for Americans who want to work or outright fraud to take advantage of the EIC.

Seriously with a recent estimate of over $1 billion dollars paid out in fraudulent claims under the EIC. Free $10/month phones are the least of our worries.

48 posted on 04/26/2013 11:03:00 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Robert357
If every month just one in every 50 people use the free phone to get a job, then...
Assumptions:
Results: <>P>I don't really have a problem with the government giving poor people phones. I'm more concerned about the outsourcing of our industries to communist countries and the availability of jobs for Americans who want to work or outright fraud to take advantage of the EIC.

Seriously with a recent estimate of over $1 billion dollars paid out in fraudulent claims under the EIC. Free $10/month phones are the least of our worries.

49 posted on 04/26/2013 11:03:00 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: outpostinmass2

Still waiting to hear whether they were on Section 8 housing.


50 posted on 04/26/2013 11:08:24 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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