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California Assembly approves bill allowing non-citizen immigrants to serve on juries
Sacramento Bee ^ | 04/26/2013

Posted on 04/26/2013 10:08:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 04/26/2013 10:12:06 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Non-citizen immigrants lawfully residing in California would be eligible for jury duty under a bill that cleared the Assembly on Thursday.

Current state law allows only United States citizens to serve on juries. However, the state Constitution does not restrict immigrants residing legally in California from being summoned. Assembly Bill 1401 would no longer exclude "lawfully present immigrants" from jury lists drawn in part by the Department of Motor Vehicles records. The bill was written by seven Democrats on the Assembly Judiciary Committee, including the chairman, Assemblyman Bob Wieckowski, D-Fremont.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; immigrants; jury

1 posted on 04/26/2013 10:08:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this another case of immigrants doing a job that Americans won’t do? /s


2 posted on 04/26/2013 10:09:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What could possibly go wrong....


3 posted on 04/26/2013 10:09:18 AM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve always said that the justice system in this country was a joke. The commie left just “doubled down” on it being a big joke.


4 posted on 04/26/2013 10:10:13 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Should be found unconstitutional in time.

More wasted money on the part of Californians with daffy, not to say idiotic, ideas.


5 posted on 04/26/2013 10:10:28 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: SeekAndFind
I was called to serve on jury duty twice while I lived in that absolute sewer of a state.

In all honesty, I didn't see how it could get any worse. I was wrong.

6 posted on 04/26/2013 10:13:32 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: SeekAndFind
We're getting very close to them legally being allowed to vote in our general elections and even running for President.

Oops, the latter has already been established. Obama has set that precedence.

*I'm not claiming that Obama was not born in the US nor do I claim he's not a US Citizen. The mere fact that he denied us the proof which even John McCain was demanded to provide was all that was needed to set the new process of electing our President. Personally, I think that was his only objective from the beginning. I always thought that.

7 posted on 04/26/2013 10:14:00 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: LouAvul

RE: I lived in that absolute sewer of a state.

And which state in this great country is that?


8 posted on 04/26/2013 10:16:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I say go with it and help the demise of this state. We can’t beat ‘em but we can help create chaos within.


9 posted on 04/26/2013 10:16:38 AM PDT by PatriotCause (California Sucks)
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To: Jack Hammer
Should be found unconstitutional in time.

By when? When non-citizen immigrants will also be allowed to be judges in this country? They're already eligible to be President. See post 7.

10 posted on 04/26/2013 10:16:46 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Once the GOP helps pass illegal alien amnesty this will be happening all over America. Enjoy all.


11 posted on 04/26/2013 10:18:03 AM PDT by Vision (We are not descended from fearful men)
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To: SeekAndFind

If they serve on juries then they surely should have the right to vote.. /s


12 posted on 04/26/2013 10:18:43 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, they’re just wanting a jury of their peers.


13 posted on 04/26/2013 10:19:30 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if they need to pass an English literacy test, or if taxpayers need to pay for translators in every courtroom. California has illegals from around the world so there could be several languages in need of translation.

Cluster ...


14 posted on 04/26/2013 10:21:07 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Jack Hammer
Should be found unconstitutional in time

Hopefully ... as an illegal alien would undermine the legal principle of a "jury of one's peers".

But of course the Left -- and sadly some Republicans who should know better -- is working tirelessly to require government and the legal system to recognize no substantive difference between a U.S. citizen and an illegal alien ... which they describe as "regularization" of illegal aliens.

15 posted on 04/26/2013 10:23:10 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I call it the Court system. We no longer have a justice system. We have been in probate court now for over 2 years and believe me there is no justice.
And if I was ever on trial I would contest this law because they are NOT a ‘jury of peers’.


16 posted on 04/26/2013 10:24:21 AM PDT by sheana
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To: SeekAndFind

What an incredibly stupid action.


17 posted on 04/26/2013 10:43:20 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t see how this survives a lawsuit but, Barack Hussein Obama is now serving a 2nd term....

What do I know....


18 posted on 04/26/2013 10:45:40 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

I just finished serving on a jury in SoCal.
They summons anyone who has a CA drivers license. Citizen or not. You have to swear you are a citizen..so you could lie and serve now. They also don’t ever ask you to verify you are the person on the summons. No ID is asked during the process...so I guess we could have non-citizens and illegals serving now.


19 posted on 04/26/2013 11:05:54 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

I just got dismissed from jury duty because I live 4 miles over the county line!

“....must be resident of county...”


20 posted on 04/26/2013 11:14:00 AM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: SeekAndFind

Looking like our whole nation is being taken over....


21 posted on 04/26/2013 11:30:47 AM PDT by caww
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To: SeekAndFind
This is going to get cute.

First, I can understand how a person accused of a crime or a civil offense would want a trail by their peers and since so many residents of California are not citizens, well, what could be more fair.

Second, since any jury pay has to be reported on your income taxes and since I am sure that ALL non-citizen legal residents of California have social security numbers (even if they belong to someone else) this should be no problem.

I also assume that jurors will not need to speak English and that translators will be made available to them?

This will be so interesting to watch as California turns into a third world province within a first world country.

22 posted on 04/26/2013 11:45:00 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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I don't remember getting a 1099 for jury pay in LA County - it was many years ago, and the “pay”level is so low I'm sure it's under a 1099 threshold.

From their web site

The amount, $15.00 and mileage of $0.34 a mile one-way beginning on the second day of service, is set by statute.

23 posted on 04/26/2013 12:04:00 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody needs to check the water supply of blue states.

We citizens are daily being marginalized by the leftists.

A whole lot of public schooling goes into such a thought process.


24 posted on 04/26/2013 12:43:36 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Wurlitzer

it is time for leftafornia to sink into the pacific ocean. They are no longer abiding by the Constitution of the US of A so they are no longer a legitimate member of the 50 states (No, little barry you sonofabitch, there are not 57 states in THIS Republic, but your Islamo Slime has 57 states).


25 posted on 04/26/2013 12:46:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Oldexpat

In TN, in the past when I’ve been called to Grand Jury duty, they picked from the voter registration lists and I had to show my TN driver’s license to go inside the holding room. But we’re in Tennessee, not on the left coast of islamerica.


26 posted on 04/26/2013 12:50:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Kalifornia. And if you're offended. I don't care.

It's an absolute sewer of a state.

27 posted on 04/26/2013 1:00:17 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: SeekAndFind
The rule of law is dead in California. If your an illegal driving without insurance or a license they won't tow your car. If your a citizen with a job paying taxes and you have expired parking ticket you are towed. There is a disadvantage in being a citizen in California.
28 posted on 04/26/2013 1:06:13 PM PDT by pterional
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, this should provide lots more jobs for translators, one for each jurist of a non-English language.


29 posted on 04/26/2013 1:07:01 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: MHGinTN

If California sunk into the ocean then you could no longer post on FR. The servers are located in this state and so is Jim and a lot of conservative freepers.


30 posted on 04/26/2013 1:26:05 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: SeekAndFind

Question! Can/could a non citizen vote especially for a life or even death sentence for a true/valid citizen. If so the USA has certainly given away Constitutional rights as to peers, be a person innocent or guilty.


31 posted on 04/26/2013 2:05:30 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: SeekAndFind

UNOFFICIAL BALLOT
MEASURE: AB 1401
AUTHOR: Committee on Judiciary
TOPIC: Jury duty: eligibility.
DATE: 04/25/2013
LOCATION: ASM. FLOOR
MOTION: AB 1401 JUD. Assembly Third Reading By WIECKOWSKI
(AYES 45. NOES 26.) (PASS)

AYES
****

Alejo Ammiano Atkins Blumenfield
Bocanegra Bonilla Bonta Bradford
Brown Buchanan Ian Calderon Campos
Chau Chesbro Dickinson Eggman
Fong Frazier Garcia Gatto
Gomez Gordon Hall Roger Hernández
Holden Jones-Sawyer Levine Medina
Mitchell Mullin Muratsuchi Pan
Perea V. Manuel Pérez Quirk Rendon
Skinner Stone Ting Torres
Weber Wieckowski Williams Yamada
John A. Pérez

NOES
****

Achadjian Allen Bigelow Chávez
Conway Dahle Donnelly Beth Gaines
Gorell Gray Grove Hagman
Harkey Jones Linder Logue
Maienschein Mansoor Melendez Morrell
Nestande Olsen Patterson Wagner
Waldron Wilk

ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING
*********************************

Bloom Cooley Daly Fox
Lowenthal Nazarian Quirk-Silva Salas
Vacancy


32 posted on 04/26/2013 4:00:37 PM PDT by Selene
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To: SeekAndFind

how much you wanna bet that illegals are in the assembly.


33 posted on 04/26/2013 7:19:01 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: SeekAndFind

This will HELP California...! Loooook into my eyez....!

34 posted on 04/27/2013 4:23:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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