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Internet sales tax bill to hit roadblock in House
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Posted on 04/26/2013 10:11:02 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Internet sales tax bill to hit roadblock in House By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER | Associated Press – 42 mins ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A bill to require Internet shoppers to pay sales taxes for online purchases may be cruising through the Senate but it will soon hit a roadblock in the House.

"There's a lot of political difficulty getting through the fog of it looking like a tax increase," said Rep. Steve Womack, R-Ark., one of the main sponsors of the bill in the House.

The bill would empower states to reach outside their borders and compel online retailers to collect state and local sales taxes for purchases made over the Internet. Under the bill, the sales taxes would be sent to the states where a shopper lives.

Under current law, states can only require stores to collect sales taxes if the store has a physical presence in the state. As a result, many online sales are essentially tax-free, giving Internet retailers an advantage over brick-and-mortar stores.

Womack says the bill is not a tax increase. Instead, he says, it simply gives states a mechanism to enforce current taxes.

In many states, shoppers are required to pay unpaid sales taxes when they file state tax returns. But governors complain that few people comply.

The Senate voted 63-30 Thursday to end debate on the bill, though senators delayed a final vote on passage until May 6, when they return from a weeklong vacation. Opponents hope senators hear from angry constituents over the next week, but they acknowledged they have a steep hill to climb to defeat the bill in the Senate.

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Kill it.........
1 posted on 04/26/2013 10:11:02 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes, pass higher taxes in an endless recession which has brought the economy to near-ruin.

Makes a Marxist, Obama kinda sense.

Which is to say no sense at all.


2 posted on 04/26/2013 10:13:33 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Sub-Driver

Kill it. How about Fedzilla learn how to do more with less?!


3 posted on 04/26/2013 10:14:58 AM PDT by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: Sub-Driver
KILL BILL!
4 posted on 04/26/2013 10:15:57 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Sub-Driver

No more new taxes to make things “fair.”


5 posted on 04/26/2013 10:20:53 AM PDT by joelt
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To: Sub-Driver

So... Any guesses on when “Special” taxes like they apply to Motel room rentals will show up? I’m envisioning something like the L.A. Tax, (A hypothetical tax), of an additional 2% being added on when a resident of Greater Los Angeles makes an internet based purchase.


6 posted on 04/26/2013 10:21:27 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Sub-Driver

One hopes.

The House ought to find a way to give businesses subject to sales tax a break, rather than hurting businesses that aren’t.

SnakeDoc


7 posted on 04/26/2013 10:21:48 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: joelt
No more new taxes to make things “fair.”

If places like WalMart want to make things fair, they can give up the tax rebates and incentives they get when they build new stores. Pisses me off to see local politicians pissing away tax dollars on profitable billion-dollar companies that are going to build in their city regardless of whether they get tax breaks or not.
8 posted on 04/26/2013 10:33:59 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Sub-Driver

We can only hope that those who truly represent Americans will act decisively and kill this piece of garbage.

If states truly want to help the brick and mortar local businesses then eliminate all sales taxes. And while they’re at it force municipalities to eliminate the pocket-picking tax on hotel rooms!


9 posted on 04/26/2013 10:42:33 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The National Conference of State Legislatures estimates that states lost $23 billion last year because they couldn't collect taxes on out-of-state sales.

They need to figure out how to wisely spend today's tax bases, and not look for other revenue streams that would be mostly squandered.

10 posted on 04/26/2013 10:45:51 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Made In The USA
Kill it. How about Fedzilla learn how to do more with less?!

This is actually the greedy grasping STATE GOVERNMENTS who are behind this one.

11 posted on 04/26/2013 10:49:17 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: MarineBrat
Re: "KILL BILL!"

What did I ever do to you? What a horrible sentiment....

;-)

12 posted on 04/26/2013 10:49:56 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Sub-Driver
There's a lot of political difficulty getting through the fog of it looking like a tax increase

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and sh!ts like a duck. What is it?

13 posted on 04/26/2013 11:00:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Red Steel
would be mostly squandered

would be mostly COMPLETELY squandered. Fixed it.

14 posted on 04/26/2013 11:02:15 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Red Steel
estimates that states lost $23 billion last year because they couldn't collect taxes on out-of-state sales

Rather the citizens retained $23 billion because they were able to avoid the greedy grasping state governments' further plundering of their wallets.

15 posted on 04/26/2013 11:03:47 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they would wisely spend about .0000000000001% of it.


16 posted on 04/26/2013 11:09:04 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Sub-Driver
essentially tax-free, giving Internet retailers an advantage over brick-and-mortar stores

This is an outright lie. Internet shoppers have to pay SHIPPING which leaves the scosts comparable. What the locals want to do is is go from competitive to having a price advantage enforced by the government. It is the wet dream of most merchants to force people to buy form them and leave the competition stuff in the dust of history.

Case in point - "Saw-Stop" is a mechanism that is added to a table saw that yanks the blade down into the body of the saw if it contacts flesh (under some circumstances.) They have been lobbying massively to get this added mandatorily to all table saws. If I was ever considering getting a saw stop saw I would never do so now. The other problem is that all of the demonstrations I've seen (with a hot dog) show the hot dog in contact with the saw table, but if your finger is going to hit the blade, then you're more likely to have it on top of a piece of wood or plastic that you're cutting and it probably won't work anyway because the impedence of the circuit that triggers the blade drop probably won't reach the threshold.

17 posted on 04/26/2013 11:17:30 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Red Steel
I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they would wisely spend about .0000000000001% of it.

Only by mistake.

18 posted on 04/26/2013 11:18:38 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: IbJensen

eliminate the pocket-picking tax on hotel rooms!”

Last summer on the warmest day in our history our a/c went out so we decided to stay in a hotel until the unit could be replaced. The taxes on our bill alone for one night were more than the cost of the room. Just one of the reasons we have had to restrict our family’s travel plans. Car rental is just as bad.

It’s going to end up killing the travel industry.


19 posted on 04/26/2013 11:20:10 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Many local areas jack the taxes on hotels and rental cars so they don’t make locals mad.


20 posted on 04/26/2013 11:30:31 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: af_vet_rr

Good point!


21 posted on 04/26/2013 11:33:45 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Don’t everyone forget it was a Republican (Mike Enzi, Wyo) who introduced this bill. The GOP is just as duplicitous in government expansion as the Dems just wimpier about it.


22 posted on 04/26/2013 11:40:37 AM PDT by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: Sub-Driver

>> getting through the fog of it looking like a tax increase

I’m having trouble getting through the fog of this (R)epresentative’s breathtaking asininity.


23 posted on 04/26/2013 11:47:42 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Sub-Driver

At least some states (including mine) require residents to report purchases on which that state’s sales tax was not collected on their yearly state income tax return and pay the sales tax on them.I buy many things online...expensive things (TVs,laptops,cameras,etc) and I also buy many such things in nearby New Hampshire (no state sales tax).Over my lifetime I’ve paid tens of thousands of dollars in state sales tax and state income tax alone,enough to fund thousands of foreign jihadis’ EBT cards.As a result I do not report *any* of these purchases to the state and never will.


24 posted on 04/26/2013 11:48:11 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Sub-Driver
That it even sounds like the GOP-controlled House is giving consideration to this is troubling. The House should have no problems simply saying "DOA", especially in a bad economy (not that it would be anymore right in a good economy, mind you).
25 posted on 04/26/2013 11:57:12 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Grams A

And it’s nothing but greed. Cities and counties want to get their sweaty hands on as much tax money as possible because every commissioner, sheriff and county department head wants nothing more than to enlarge his fiefdom and panel his office.

Its’ disgusting.


26 posted on 04/26/2013 12:07:33 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Sub-Driver

TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!!!


27 posted on 04/26/2013 12:20:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: af_vet_rr
Pisses me off to see local politicians pissing away tax dollars on profitable billion-dollar companies that are going to build in their city regardless of whether they get tax breaks or not.

Walmart was looking to build a second location in our town of 85,000. The city did not wish to give them the tax breaks they gave them when Walmart build the first location.

Our much smaller neighboring city (about 25,000 people) is the county seat. The county needed a new courthouse and, by law, it needed to be built in the county seat. Our town ceded a thin strip of land that snaked into our city to facilitate building the new courthouse.

Walmart, just to show us who is boss, built their new location on part of the strip of land that our city had ceded, giving the sales tax revenue generated by the Walmart to the smaller city, even though most of the shoppers are from our city. We estimate that refusing to give them the requested $1.2 million in tax breaks will cost the city over $500K a year in revenue. Wonderful that I get to pay higher property taxes because we wouldn't give Walmart the incentive.

28 posted on 04/26/2013 12:21:25 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Sub-Driver

Boehner’s on it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314818/Dominic-Lakhan-The-Jamaican-born-fianc-John-Boehners-daughter—arrested-possessing-marijuana.html?ICO=most_read_module

Hopefully, he’ll make a better decision than his daughter.


29 posted on 04/26/2013 12:22:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Sub-Driver
I will simply once again reiterate that our Founding Fathers revolted over much less than that which we put up with today.

I can only imagine that the Founding Fathers would tar, feather, and hang each one of these over-taxing traitorous SOB's by their necks on the steps of the Capital should they pass something like this in their time.

30 posted on 04/26/2013 12:28:30 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Sub-Driver

Once a system like this is in place, it will not stop at merely collecting sales taxes. Bet on it.


31 posted on 04/26/2013 12:30:48 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: joelt
No more new taxes to make things “fair.”

They could repeal the sales taxes instead. That would level the playing field. That should be the 'Pubbie position.

32 posted on 04/26/2013 12:47:44 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Sub-Driver

Hey, Womack, a**hole, if it collects taxes, it is a TAX.


33 posted on 04/26/2013 4:18:07 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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