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Health Chaos Ahead [NYT "Obama didnít want to release unpopular rules before the election"]
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/opinion/brooks-health-chaos-ahead.html?_r=1& ^ | April 25, 2013 | David Brooks

Posted on 04/26/2013 1:12:37 PM PDT by grundle

... even fervent supporters of the law admit that things are going worse than expected.

Implementation got off to a bad start because the Obama administration didn’t want to release unpopular rules before the election.

Insurance companies are trying to put out new products, but they don’t know what federal parameters they have to meet. Small businesses are angry because the provisions that benefited them have been put on the back burner. Health care systems are highly frustrated. They can’t plan without a road map. Senator Max Baucus, one of the authors of the law, says he sees a “huge train wreck” coming.

Everything is turning out to be more complicated than originally envisioned.

A law that was very confusing has become mind-boggling... Americans are just going to be overwhelmed and befuddled. Many are just going to stay away, even if they are eligible for benefits.

Nearly everybody not in the employ of the administration agrees this law does not solve the cost problem, and many of the recent regulatory decisions will send costs higher. A study in California found that premiums could increase by an average of 20 percent for people not covered by federal subsidies. A study by the Society of Actuaries found that by 2017 costs could rise by 32 percent for insurers covering people in the individual exchanges, and as high as 80 percent in states like Ohio.

Under the law, young healthy people subsidize poorer, sicker and older people. But the young may decide en masse that it is completely irrational for them to get health insurance that subsidizes others while they are healthy. They’ll be better off paying the fines, if those are even enforced, and opting out. Without premiums from the young, everybody else’s costs go up even higher.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; sourcetitlenoturl

1 posted on 04/26/2013 1:12:37 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

“Obama didn’t want to release unpopular rules before the election”

Ya think?!!


2 posted on 04/26/2013 1:15:31 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: grundle
... even fervent supporters of the law admit that things are going worse than expected.

Not a chance. I expected it to be a complete fiasco that would massively raise prices, reduce the quality of service, bring medical research to a screeching halt, and require more "reform" immediately - single payer, of course. ObamaCare will be precisely as bad as I expected.

3 posted on 04/26/2013 1:16:21 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: grundle

Obamacare in full bloom is our best friend for the 2014 midterm elections.

You can see why the Baraqqis are in full speed fundraising mode.


4 posted on 04/26/2013 1:19:37 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: grundle

The Obama administration is illegitimate.

He didn’t quality for the ballot.


5 posted on 04/26/2013 1:21:27 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: Pollster1
Single payer is an illogical solution ~ it will only raise prices higher, take medical standards backwards to the 1940s, and let people with cancer die!

Even the rich won't have an America to run off to for advanced treatment.

6 posted on 04/26/2013 1:22:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: grundle

every syllable in your post is the ramblings of a guy without much of a track record of being right even though he made a huge effort to “sound” fair and balanced (in other words to trick the reader into thinking that he (Brooks) actually was a credible writer.

Some have thought from the get go that “the bill you have to read before you can understand it” would collapse of it’s own weight. So, when Brooks opines that it’s going to take years for this reason and that reason for the bill that is his OPINION! Or, worse, he is really plugging the bill and his writing is a mis-direction play. To hell with him, I say let’s all work hard to kill the damn outrage known as Obamacare at the first second, of the first minute, of the first hour and the first day we can and by WHATEVER means possible!?


7 posted on 04/26/2013 1:34:38 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: grundle

David Brooks presents the idea that, yes, Obamacare is horrible beyond imagination. But, we have to work with it. It has to work. We’ll get through this. It can’t be gotten rid of.
It can. First we have to take the Senate with enough votes to impeach Obama. Second, we need to improve our standing in the House. Then, impeach. There are way more than enough charges. Even Democrats will get onboard to save their seats in the 2016 race.
If a Republican House and Senate fails to repeal Obamacare because they want to continue running on it as an issue, then they’ll lose seats come 2016.

Also, please, please stop running RINO candidates.


8 posted on 04/26/2013 1:44:50 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: grundle

It’s NOT a fine, it’s a tax (theft).


9 posted on 04/26/2013 1:45:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: grundle

Implementation got off to a bad start because the Obama administration didn’t want to release unpopular rules before the election.

Well, it’s not like the rules didn’t exist before the
election, a honest reporter would have dug them out.


10 posted on 04/26/2013 1:50:52 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Paladin2
It can't be a tax...it just can't.

Because Obama said he would never raise taxes even one dime on anyone making under $250,000 didn't he?

11 posted on 04/26/2013 2:11:08 PM PDT by what's up
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To: muawiyah
Single payer is an illogical solution ~ it will only raise prices higher, take medical standards backwards to the 1940s, and let people with cancer die! Even the rich won't have an America to run off to for advanced treatment.

Sensible people who understand economics know that. The problem is that people want free stuff, and single payer will be advertised as providing free stuff. Once we're stuck, they can control costs (and more important control us through the threat) by refusing service. Then the government really will have the power that Obama, Pelosi, and Hillary dream of.

The next refuge will either be American doctors establishing boutique (high price, high quality, selective clientele) clinics in Central America or on private hospital ships off our coasts. The statists will try to regulate that or prohibit it, and they will fail.

12 posted on 04/26/2013 2:17:45 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

I like free stuff, like parking.


13 posted on 04/26/2013 2:24:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Gen.Blather

As part of eliminating 0bamacare, the demise of the NYT is REQUIRED.


14 posted on 04/26/2013 2:25:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

“As part of eliminating 0bamacare, the demise of the NYT is REQUIRED.”

The New York Slimes has a circulation of 2 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_States_by_circulation

It’s only reaching .6% of the population. I think we can eliminate Obamacare without wasting any time eliminating NYT.


15 posted on 04/26/2013 2:36:43 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
Yabut the NYT sets the agenda for ALL of the LSM, TV (NPR) and websites included.

I submit that it is a necessary condition.

16 posted on 04/26/2013 2:39:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: grundle

Good. More chaos, more people without medical care, fewer doctors, more people dead. Welcome to nobama’s amerika. To all those who voted for this degenerate...good.


17 posted on 04/26/2013 2:41:48 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Paladin2

“Yabut the NYT sets the agenda for ALL of the LSM, TV (NPR) and websites included.
I submit that it is a necessary condition.”

I’m not going to argue. But I’d submit that the agenda was set by Karl Marx


18 posted on 04/26/2013 2:50:31 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
"by Karl Marx"

Wuz he one of groucho's bros?

19 posted on 04/26/2013 2:53:43 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

Yeah, I know you were being funny. “Let me slip out of these wet things and into a dry martini.” (Eyebrow waggle.)


20 posted on 04/26/2013 2:59:53 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

I’ll drink to that!


21 posted on 04/26/2013 3:02:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
I like free stuff, like parking.

Medical care is a basic human necessity, so it should be free. So are food, clothing, shelter, heat and air conditioning, communications such as smart ObamaPhones, Internet, computers and tablet devices, iPods, and music downloads. Since those are necessities, (1) the government should provide them all for free, (2) the government should regulate all of them thoroughly to make sure everyone gets an equal share and no more, and (3) providers of each have an obligation to provide them free of charge on demand and at the quality demanded. What could go wrong?

22 posted on 04/26/2013 3:05:11 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

You neglected (at your own risk) free parking.


23 posted on 04/26/2013 3:07:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I also left out a free car (of my choice) and free gas and maintenance from my car insurance company (free also) for that car of my choice. Obviously, I need a liberal to advise me on my economic rights under social justice theory.


24 posted on 04/26/2013 3:43:50 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: grundle

Bump


25 posted on 04/26/2013 6:32:52 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Pollster1

Free BMWs or Caddy SUVS.


26 posted on 04/26/2013 6:46:38 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Varsity Flight

Why should I settle for a BMW or Caddy if someone else has a Rolls-Royce Phantom, a Lamborghini Veneno, or a Bugatti Veyron Super Sports? That’s not fair. I want what I have coming to me. I want the best too . . . and the world owes it to me if I can get the votes!


27 posted on 04/27/2013 3:36:54 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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