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Breaking: Federal Investigators Now Believe a Third Terrorist May Have Been Involved in Boston
Gateway Pundit ^ | April 26, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 04/26/2013 8:19:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: SatinDoll

There isn’t enough proof to know with certainty that he visited the White House. I suspect he did and checked in under a variety of names. I don’t think the variations in names were necessarily anything intentionally deceptive, although I can’t rule that in or out, dropping portions of names seems to be common (ancestral names, tribal origin, nickname). And their certainly could be more than one person, or several persons some of whom visited more than once.

Whether he visited the White House or not, hustling him out of the country is peculiar. He’s a witness at the least.

These posts explain what I think about the names:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3011825/posts?page=283#283

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3011825/posts?page=297#297


101 posted on 04/27/2013 12:05:31 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Diogenesis

What are you saying here? The decision was awful but the precidence for it was set back in 2001. This whole thing is a cluster youknowwhat...and of course barry and holder are taking advantage of all they can.


102 posted on 04/27/2013 12:05:57 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: ObligedFriend

Luckily


103 posted on 04/27/2013 12:10:20 AM PDT by Jmathes
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To: American Constitutionalist

...Well this is what’s on the guy from the river.:

Tripathi was missing since March 16th, when he disappeared from his apartment without his wallet and cell phone.

He was on approved temporary leave from the school and was struggling with depression....

On April 23 Sunil was discovered in the waters off India Point Park in Providence, Rhode Island....The cause of the student’s death has still to be determined but the medical examiner said .....no foul play was suspected.”

From all I’ve read there was a very real community search for this student...and apparently had serious depression issues that do pan out.


104 posted on 04/27/2013 12:17:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

You need to ‘go on a mission’ and see what is out there on line to do with the “roof guy”.....and dig til you are relatively satisfied with what there is about him. Then report it back here....so we can eliminate him or consider him.

BTW....Russia and Israel both have their top people helping with this case....In Moscow via the embassays and otherwise.
The fact the father is suposedly in Moscow getting medical treatment is interesting. But I think both Russia and US Investigators likely orchestrated the Moscow trip. They don’t want anything to happpen to him.

Putin’s an interesting character in play as well....not to be trusted but interesting none the less.


105 posted on 04/27/2013 12:23:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Did suspect #2 ever share where they tested these bombs?
They had to be tested somewhere, I would be interested to know where that was.

caww, you are correct at what is occurring, it’s time for them to just keep throwing everything they can at the wall and watch people scatter around trying to follow any thin lead of info.

I’m still haunted by the 15,000 freaks from hostile countries that are not where they were ‘we’ expected them to be. Can you imagine them spread out across the entire country, paired up if you will, it’s going to be a long long long summer.


106 posted on 04/27/2013 12:25:37 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Jmathes

Is that you Scott?


107 posted on 04/27/2013 12:31:56 AM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FBI may have to rethink its focus on these two suspects only idea and go back to treating it like a crime scene, which the Boston police described as the most complicated crime scene in the history of the Boston police department.


108 posted on 04/27/2013 12:33:36 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I vaguely recall something about testing a dozen or two miles north of town.


109 posted on 04/27/2013 12:34:55 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Searches are coming up with articles about Tsarnaev saying they never tested the bombs.


110 posted on 04/27/2013 12:46:07 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
id suspect #2 ever share where they tested these bombs?

Good question. Professor Kaczynski has commented on the difficulty of finding suitable venues for such activity. And he was a resident of Montana, where they do have wide open spaces.

They had to be tested somewhere

Not necessarily. Little Boy worked as designed, despite never having been tested, and killed ninety to 166 thousand people (accurate casualty figures are hard to com by, since many of the victims were cremated in the firestorm). Of course, Speed Bump and Joker were not exactly Manhattan Project material, but then, neither were their bombs.

111 posted on 04/27/2013 12:48:32 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I believe it was said they did not test them...

That’s a low number of people you listed....hostile or otherwise..it doesn’t take much for that equation to change regardless how long they’ve lived here, or how “normal” they may have appeared to others.

I’m not surprised we can’t keep track of them....if you consider the numbers they likely outnumber the men we have to do the job with considering all Bo’s cuts.

Getting a handle on the overseas students would be a good place to hunker down on...and require a whole lot more background checks on. But even with that...these two were here ten years! No2# was 9 yrs old when he arrived here and basically raised with Americans.

And so....Americans have to keep their guard up on them all...unfortunately.


112 posted on 04/27/2013 12:50:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

The Patch has a story about unexplained explosions in Hanover Mass south of Boston. Commenters allege a connection. The Patch is a chain of local papers.


113 posted on 04/27/2013 12:55:54 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: cynwoody

The analogy is not quite fair. Little Boy’s forerunner was tested.


114 posted on 04/27/2013 1:00:15 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This kid? http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/0425/Sunil-Tripathi-body-found-Brown-student-was-misidentified-in-Boston-bombing

Something is very strange.


115 posted on 04/27/2013 1:00:27 AM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Daffynition

That student is not the one looking for....he was already eliminated...probably a suicide as he had serious depression issues and left school last year for that reason....community had a huge search for him as they knew his issues.


116 posted on 04/27/2013 1:05:14 AM PDT by caww
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To: Ray76

Comments in this article claim a connection

http://northreading.patch.com/articles/tsarnaev-admits-to-detonating-marathon-bombs

This article is about the explosions.

http://www.wickedlocal.com/hanover/news/x1037527396/Explosives-cause-concern-in-Hanover#axzz2RK1zDoEG

It mentions “unexploded devices” that the State Police bomb squad detonated. No description of the devices is given.


117 posted on 04/27/2013 1:10:45 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Ray76
The analogy is not quite fair. Little Boy’s forerunner was tested.

Fat Man was hardly the forerunner. Fat Man was the more elegant, but harder to implement, design. That's why it was tested.

Little Boy was the fallback in case they couldn't solve the complex engineering problem that was Fat Man's implosion design. IOW, they knew the implosion method was the right way, but they also knew the crude gun design would work and impress the bejesus out of the Emperor. And they had Little Boy ready to go, so they dropped him, and he worked!

118 posted on 04/27/2013 1:18:29 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Ray76

Awww thank you, I appreciate you giving me that info as I should have just looked it up myself. Just so much to read and sort out, so I do thank you.

Why wouldn’t they test them? Does that suggest that the exact same ones were tested by others, in other countries, so no need to do a test run? Arrgg


119 posted on 04/27/2013 1:22:27 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: cynwoody

Good summary, thank you. And thanks for the much needed laugh, your way with words is great!


120 posted on 04/27/2013 1:23:50 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: caww

Thanks, someone else had said the same that they did not test these.

I was taking the number Beck was speaking of, the 15,000 that he was told of...our of 75,000, I will have go back and listen to what the time frame was for all those to flood in here.

You are sadly correct, I watch over my shoulder all the time now...this is a different world and I feel like I’m living in a nightmare that just keeps repeating. I swear, I’ve had this dream before.

Who the he** is running our immigration dept?


121 posted on 04/27/2013 1:27:48 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Ray76
There was this link a few days ago, juxtaposing Joker's tweets to unexplained explosions in Hanover, MA, on 12 and 15 March.

One must assume the Hanover PD investigated, and, if there were pressure cooker parts or other similarities to the Marathon bombs, we would have heard about it by now.

122 posted on 04/27/2013 1:28:32 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Katherine Russell aka Mrs. Black Cap) wearing a backpack,


Can you recall what she was wearing, what colors?


123 posted on 04/27/2013 1:31:30 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Ray76

Interesting. The only description given was that they appeared home made. They couldn’t find anything else, as in the famous junk flying around the marathon? Odd

Things that make you go ‘hmmmmmmm’....


124 posted on 04/27/2013 1:33:50 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

In addition to the articles above, this one is from the Boston Globe:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/03/27/hanover-authorities-seeking-identify-person-who-detonated-explosives-injuries-property-damage-reported/rZf2K2Tj5vOxpYh8q6EeaI/story.html

Indeed, Hanover is just south of Boston.. about 1/3 of the way between Boston & UMass Dartmouth where the younger bomber was going to school.


125 posted on 04/27/2013 1:38:40 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: cynwoody

Yes! I do recall articles with those tweets. Thanks for finding them. These tweets are probably the source of the comments at the Patch.

Hanover and State police may not make public all they know. They may even issue disinfo to smoke out any accomplices.


126 posted on 04/27/2013 1:39:23 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: cynwoody

Just a short link-hop from your link

http://jesterscourt.cc/2013/04/23/boston-marathon-bombing-just-a-hunch/


127 posted on 04/27/2013 1:44:06 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Travis McGee

Travis, you’re absolutely right. It IS a disgrace. But here’s the thing (And I’m speaking as a guy with over a decade in professional print and internet media)....

The MSM continues to exist because it gets advertisers. The more reader/viewership an outlet has, the more they can charge for ads. I’m sure you know this but bear with me.

The very same people who come to conservative sites on the web and rightly complain about gay marriage and PCBS will run to the tube on Sunday to watch the NFL shove it down their throats. Their football fix is more important to them than ‘voting’ with their cable dollars and canceling their sub. Same for Duck Dynasty, American Idol or any other show.

People make excuses for this behavior all the time...the say one thing and do another thing that they bitch about in libs and politicians. Yet they have no issue when they themselves do it. But they have the one superextraspecial reason to do it that allows them to lie convincingly to their conscience.

The one show Joe X watches and justified with his cable dollars...well his cable cash goes and funds Glee and every other gay show. It goes and funds the MSM news channels that convince the world that Joe is an inbred Bible thumper who is responsible for abusing and bullying Muslims and puppies.

Joe buys newspapers who do the same and pats himself on the back for his thrifty ways clipping coupons. Of course the people who bought those coupon pages are also helping to fund the spread of leftist propaganda in said paper, so Joe cuts his throat in yet another way.

This could go on for days. The examples of self inflicted suicide are legion. But the bottom line comes down to this. People can have an impact by careful use of their spending power. But they refuse to. Because they do not think 2 inches ahead of the nose on their face.

The right is every bit as materialistic as the left. Until that changes, no one should be surprised at having a fully funded MSM to fight against.


128 posted on 04/27/2013 1:44:49 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

keeper bfl thanks penelope


129 posted on 04/27/2013 1:49:22 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Norm Lenhart

Along with that thinking, we (the collective, conservative ‘we’) have to build a conservative media system to offset what is in place.


130 posted on 04/27/2013 1:49:31 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

We have one. Talk radio, the internet and sites like FR. It is not used to anywhere near potential when guys like Beck do tear show theatrics and Levin calls Rubio a ‘good Conservative’.

Someone needs to explain to me how it is that Sarah Palin can drive days of media stories with a single facebook post but the supposed opposition party to Obama can’t use its own YouTube channel to circumvent the MSM.

Folks, THINK.


131 posted on 04/27/2013 1:58:57 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Ray76

Thank you, Ray76. It has been enlightening.


132 posted on 04/27/2013 2:01:35 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Ray76

Just a short link-hop from your link

http://jesterscourt.cc/2013/04/23/boston-marathon-bombing-just-a-hunch/

From your link:

Several unexploded devices were found at the scene and later detonated under secure conditions by the State Police Bomb Squad.”

That's key. Unexploded devices are gold for an investigator. They were what solved the Madrid bombings. The question is, did they at all resemble the Marathon or Watertown bombs? Did they have anything in common with what was supposedly retrieved from Joker's dorm room at UMass Dartmouth?

133 posted on 04/27/2013 2:07:47 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The guy on the roof? He would likely have had line-of-sight to both devices with minimal interference from anything at ground level.


134 posted on 04/27/2013 2:07:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree we have the tools. We just don’t have the foot soldiers willing to do the grunt work. Lots of folks, at FRee Republic and other conservative sites spend jillions of man-hours writing and talking to one another.

Turn those man-hours into citizen journalism (similar to the Breitbart model), and we have a viable system.


135 posted on 04/27/2013 2:08:03 AM PDT by abb
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To: bryan999

Thanks. Deductive reasoning would point to those two. I don’t believe there are coincidences in life. Just damn


136 posted on 04/27/2013 2:12:44 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: PA Engineer; Ray76

Anyone recognize the electronics found inside the Boston bombs?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3008918/posts


137 posted on 04/27/2013 2:22:15 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Smokin' Joe

The guy on the roof?


Notice how he’s slinking away instead of gawking like anybody else would.


138 posted on 04/27/2013 2:24:28 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: mountn man

That photo should be posted with a warning. Ugh!!


139 posted on 04/27/2013 2:27:54 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot (Islam Wants You Dead!)
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To: abb

People do do that. And are often mocked by their own side for it. But yes, it needs to be done more.


140 posted on 04/27/2013 2:28:17 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But.. but... Pig Sis assured us all the two were acting along. Could she have been (oh, stop the presses) ... LYING?


141 posted on 04/27/2013 2:33:21 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: abb

A prime example of that citizen journalism is butteredzillion who has done more than any MSM outlet by orders of magnitude on the Birther issue. Notice the crap thrown by supposed conservatives at (her I believe).

All solid and doced info. And mocked for it by her own team.

Not sure of her exact username spelling so I can’t ping her to the thread.


142 posted on 04/27/2013 2:33:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

That has been an issue with me ever since I began posting on FRee Republic in 2004 - that blogging has been discouraged by a vocal group of FReepers.

It should be encouraged and supported.


143 posted on 04/27/2013 2:34:15 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

I will say that they do have a point with the ‘pimping’ aspect, but by and large I totally agree with you.

When posting CNS articles is considered pimping, that’s overboard.

People forget it was a ‘citizen journo/blogger type that took down Dan Rather, not the ‘established’ right wing media. Or that Drudge was not establishment when he nailed Clinton to a wall.

People have to start somewhere.


144 posted on 04/27/2013 2:39:17 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: butterdezillion

Somebody braggin about you!


145 posted on 04/27/2013 2:41:35 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Smokin' Joe
The guy on the roof is camera visible. Somewhere there is a spot that is not....It's all in the hats....

That white hat and the way it was seated was outstanding. The other one had a logo....

From a window...binoculars would not be unusal. Go back to Lord & Taylor and look at the sites from there.

I think the boys might have had a blue tooth or something more discreet. I can almost hear someone saying. "Okay..turn into Fairfield and go to "X"...Your brother is 30 paces behind you."

Same thing with the older brother.

These messages may be via little radios like I use for work and not phones tied to satellites. I carry mine in my breast pocket and can hear just fine. And they have no memory aka no squeeling on the participants.

Just tossing around thoughts.

146 posted on 04/27/2013 2:45:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fed is sure the wife was nowhere near the Boston bombing sites?


147 posted on 04/27/2013 3:33:20 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FReepers knew constructing the detonator had to be trained elsewhere in terrorist camps right away.

The officials kept leaking out bits of disinformation, simply digusting.


148 posted on 04/27/2013 3:36:52 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: cynwoody

Sounds like you’re an electronics expert - thanks for all your info!

I heard on the radio yesterday afternoon that they now think (or were told) that laptops were used to set off the bombs and the FBI was searching for them at the landfill.

This is the 1st I’ve heard any mention of laptops. A day or 2 ago, FNC mentioned and showed pictures of FBI agents (IIRC they said about 30) searching a landfill for evidence, but there was no mention of laptops and it looked like they were going through smaller pieces of rubbish.

Do you think it’s feasible that laptops might have been used to detonate the bombs?

Has anyone else heard anything about laptops (I try to get through as many FR articles as I can on this, but may have missed a few)?

Thanks in advance!


149 posted on 04/27/2013 3:37:14 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: American Constitutionalist

.the burns on his skin match the explosive residue of the bomb that exploded..

How is this a big surpise to anyone. Obvioulsy he wasn’t smoking a cigarette or playing with matches. Just how the hell did he escape with all HIS feet, legs and hands? Splain dat fo me.


150 posted on 04/27/2013 3:47:39 AM PDT by Progov (I'm for HONEST government)
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