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Breaking: Federal Investigators Now Believe a Third Terrorist May Have Been Involved in Boston
Gateway Pundit ^ | April 26, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 04/26/2013 8:19:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Travis McGee

So just where on that street was Ali Alharbi at ? are there witnesses who can say just where he was at during all of this ?


51 posted on 04/26/2013 10:03:26 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No!

You don’t say...


52 posted on 04/26/2013 10:04:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: caww
Or it's a convenient side story to muck up the whole thing in people's minds... a diversion to keep people off of the right track.
That guy in the river could have, might be ? all part of their plan ? inquiring minds want to know, and should know and ask questions.
Like in the movie the Matrix II I think when the evil agent becomes multiple agents.
53 posted on 04/26/2013 10:08:53 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

“Alhaarbi be the financer?”

I surmised that also. He could have provided the money. And was young (dumb)and wanted to see the action.


54 posted on 04/26/2013 10:09:26 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: penelopesire

please add me to the new ping, thanks


55 posted on 04/26/2013 10:14:06 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: caww

I was not so interested in family at first but you and others were right to keep looking at them for sure!

What a family!! No wonder most Muslim terrorists don’t mind if they die in attacks.....with mothers like that!! Can you imagine?


56 posted on 04/26/2013 10:16:15 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ping.


57 posted on 04/26/2013 10:17:23 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Travis McGee

Told you the Media wouldn't cover this story...

58 posted on 04/26/2013 10:18:59 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: caww

Has ANYONE spoken to the woman carrying the balloons walking right behind the two Chechens right before the explosions? ... balloons can be seen rising to the left and behind one of the bomb sites.


59 posted on 04/26/2013 10:25:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: penelopesire

Please add me to you Boston Bombing ping list, too.


60 posted on 04/26/2013 10:27:39 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: caww
This is what they want, they want people to go after a cold trail.
They want to muddy the waters to keep things vague.

Meet Agent Smith :






That's the purpose they may have had for the guy in the river.
To keep people in that direction while they gave the first suspect his Miranda rights.

Remember folks it was the guy in the river in the first hours and days of this happening that everyone talked about forgetting the Saudi guy in the hospital getting his Miranda rights read to him, his nice travel package home, and the red carpet treatment.

Meet Agent Smith.... they all basically fit the same description.
61 posted on 04/26/2013 10:28:12 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: caww
Think about it ? yeah I know a weird conspiracy theory but sometimes fiction is truer than real life.
They could not find that other guy for a whole month searching and out of nowhere ? after these other guys: one get's to go home without being questioned, and the other 2 captured, and one dead, they find this one guy in the river ?
62 posted on 04/26/2013 10:34:46 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: ltc8k6

The hobby-grade R/C helicopters (from which I believe the receiver originated) typically are bundled with low power radios (under 10 Mw), but a higher power transmitter of 100 Mw or even more can easily be substituted. Range is often quoted at 2.7 miles for the 100 Mw (real, usable range in the clear), so a few city blocks are going to be no problem.


63 posted on 04/26/2013 10:36:28 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Aqua225
Not exactly correct. If it was 2.4GHz, or higher, it would more than likely have to be LOS.

I have a $20 5.8ghz DECT 6.0 cordless phone made by Uniden. Works fine all over the house. Absolutely clear and noise-free. Far better than what one could buy in the 80's and 90's for much more money.

And I don't have to be able to "see" the base station to use it. So, in that sense at least, it's definitely not LOS. Of course, if by LOS, you mean it can't use ionospheric skip or tropospheric scatter, then you'd be right. But those modes are irrelevant to the case at hand, regardless of frequency.

The more modern remote controls use digital technology to encode their signals, much as the DECT phone does. That greatly improves reliability and makes work accidents due to random interference much less likely.

64 posted on 04/26/2013 10:41:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: thouworm

This past Wednesday, 4/23/2013, there was an emergency drill staged in Cleveland, Ohio. They were very careful to emphasize that this was a drill.

http://clesafety.com/2013/04/19/emergency-response-exercise-training-to-be-held-tuesday/

http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2013/04/cleveland-ohio-to-host-first-responders-drill-tuesday-april-23rd-2013-2430832.html

These types of drills go on all the time.

People attending the Boston Marathon were informed that a drill was going on and not to be startled or panicked by large noises.

I suspect Abdulrahman Al-harbi’s presence was unplanned and his arrest and detention started the incredible events that followed his release. By that I mean the suspicion of this being a terrorist bombing had to be transferred to others.

White House visitor logs indicate that Al-harbi had been an overnight guest there more than a half-dozen times. I suspect this is what the White House feared and wanted to divert; attention to the Obama’s having entertained an Al-Qaida-related terrorist who has nearly a dozen Al-harbi relatives at Gitmo and is related to the House of Saud.


65 posted on 04/26/2013 10:44:19 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: thouworm

Interesting read...thanks.


66 posted on 04/26/2013 10:44:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ah, the Saudi-national and his two friends!
67 posted on 04/26/2013 10:48:31 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: penelopesire

Many mothers are like that in the ME countries......Remember all the drama from the Palestinian woman?....and they are ‘never’ guiltless from the influences they have on their families...do not underestimate the clout of these woman when it comes to the matter of adhereing to Islam in their families...they have a powerful voice in those matters....most of the teachers are woman...and we’ve seen them arming kids and strapping them with bombs.

You can also understand why they hide behind the woman and children....they have no sense of the value of life...they do worship death.


68 posted on 04/26/2013 10:50:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: MHGinTN

Not me..I haven’t been looking at those photos...on another “mission” lol


69 posted on 04/26/2013 10:56:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: ltc8k6
Plus the receiver/transmitter is on the ground. And they likely used a very low cost radio system.

Today's dirt cheap radios are far superior to yesteryear's hi-tech expensive government-issue radios. A lot of work has gone into making them small, cheap, and reliable. They use advanced forms of modulation that require computer technology to encode and decode.

One issue that has been mentioned on other threads is the fact that a pressure cooker is a Faraday cage. Now that I think about it, I bet they placed the remote control electronics outside the cooker but inside the back-pack and ran only one wire through a small hole drilled in the cooker (the cooker could serve as the other wire). The actual detonator was probably a carefully busted Christmas tree light, as recommended by the AQ Chef.

70 posted on 04/26/2013 10:57:15 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: American Constitutionalist

Admittedly I’d like to know how that guy was found in the river....what he died from.

Thinking we lost him in the muddle here.


71 posted on 04/26/2013 11:02:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: SatinDoll

There is supposedly a ‘crashed UFO’ drill scheduled for Moscow Idaho either this weekend or end of next week. I think it is in April so must be this weekend or first of the week. Yes, it is a government drill!


72 posted on 04/26/2013 11:02:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Ooh! Lots of opportunity for shenanigans.


73 posted on 04/26/2013 11:05:00 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: thouworm
Thank you!!! You posted the following!

Reports from CBS reporter John Miller

“As everybody’s kind of standing in shock, three Boston PD detectives see this guy moving quickly out of the crowd...

They think he may be injured, but it turns out that most of that [blood] is from other people. But he does have burns on his hands,” said Miller.”
[April 16, 2013] Sources: Injured Saudi man not a suspect in Boston attacks

Hmmm....Found more detail from John Miller (according to Hot Air):

“But the pattern of his burns — mainly on his hands, Miller says — has investigators wondering what he was doing at the time of the blast.”
CBS: FBI, BPD “very interested” in Saudi national

Two other sources!

Salon transcript from a C-SPAN interview with Steve Emerson:

EMERSON: I have been given privy to certain classified information.....the burns on his skin match the explosive residue of the bomb that exploded.
Source

74 posted on 04/26/2013 11:05:33 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Well about all we can do is follow the leads...in reality there’s the fact we don’t have all the facts.

I sometimes think the news agencies and the administration throws all this stuff out there just to kkepus accupied while the authoorities get to the bottom of things...if they can send the reporters and journalist chasing their tails...we generally follow them as our only access to info unless we dig deep or know someone familiar with.


75 posted on 04/26/2013 11:07:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Yeah, it’s amazing how they some how or so happened to suddenly find him in the river after searching for him for a month just right after these 2 other guys were captured/died.


76 posted on 04/26/2013 11:12:04 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: SatinDoll
People attending the Boston Marathon were informed that a drill was going on and not to be startled or panicked by large noises.

That has always struck me as ODD! Why would they hold a drill the same day as the marathon --- one of Boston's biggest days when people from all over the US and other countries would be there.

I have only seen one report on this (from the Alabama coach) but I found him to be very credible.
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Re: White House visitor logs indicate that Al-harbi had been an overnight guest there more than a half-dozen times.

We really don't have enough proof to know that he was ever at the WH even once. There has been a lot of misleading articles about this WH log.

Only one Alharbi of the 7 Alharbi's on the list has the name AbdulRahman A. Alharbi. In 2009 that Alharbi visited the WH in a group of more than 100 that was listed as a tour [IIRC].

The list is suspicious, IMO, but it needs more investigation to prove anything.


77 posted on 04/26/2013 11:12:06 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: Ray76

That’s right...what happened with those from Niagara Falls?

My gosh I can’t keep up with the people they’ve been going after!

I pretty much stay with the doofas mother and daughter- in- law Katherine and her parents.

The Parents have their house listed now....and were given Islamic names they went by from the Muslim family. So it would appear they were certainly comfortable with their daughters involvement with the family to allow themsleves to be called these names.


78 posted on 04/26/2013 11:13:52 PM PDT by caww
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To: American Constitutionalist

Can’t recall his name though.....but it would seem somebody did and took him out.

There’ss going to be much unfolding along the way here. I’m statisfied that my suspecions of the Mother are playing out just as I thought would....and that we would see every bit the show she gave.

They (Leaders of her nation) just want her out of the picture now...she’s been making a fool of herself and an embarrassment to them....especially since Putin’s had a few things to say himself about the matter.

Not to forget the family had been deported from Russina before.


79 posted on 04/26/2013 11:19:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: thouworm

“Only one Alharbi of the 7 Alharbi’s on the list has the name AbdulRahman A. Alharbi. In 2009 that Alharbi visited the WH in a group of more than 100 that was listed as a tour...”

Thank you for the additional information. I try to keep information as accurate as possible.


80 posted on 04/26/2013 11:20:09 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Robert357

Your welcome.

It bothered me that I kept seeing the mention on FR that Saudi national had burn injury on his hand, but the info never had a source. What I was looking for was a doctor or hospital spokesperson saying that. Never found anything from them, but I was surprised by what I did find.


81 posted on 04/26/2013 11:20:23 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: Robert357
" They think he may be injured, but it turns out that most of that [blood] is from other people. But he does have burns on his hands,” said Miller.”
[April 16, 2013] Sources: Injured Saudi man not a suspect in Boston attacks “But the pattern of his burns — mainly on his hands, Miller says — has investigators wondering what he was doing at the time of the blast.” CBS: FBI, BPD “very interested” in Saudi national

The Saudi guy may have had a 3rd one ? a dud ? that could explain why his hands where burned.
82 posted on 04/26/2013 11:20:28 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Robert357

So he tried to pick up throw bomb remnant?


83 posted on 04/26/2013 11:22:59 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: mountn man

lol


84 posted on 04/26/2013 11:24:25 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: caww
Yeah, she might spill all the beans or have a lot more to say than what the DHS, and this administration's wants the people to know about. In other words ? she might blab more than what they want her to say in public.
Perhaps ? they might give her a nice paid vacation back to Russia permanently, or the public will never hear from her again.
85 posted on 04/26/2013 11:24:39 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: caww

Why do people feel that they don’t want to arrest her for her crimes she has commited, but rather they want to arrest her to keep her quiet and out of the picture ?


86 posted on 04/26/2013 11:26:28 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: caww
When investigating a crime of the magnitude of this nature all possible suspects, all possible theories, all possible leads are not off the table.
Look under every rock and crevice, don't leave any rock unturned.
87 posted on 04/26/2013 11:33:37 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FBI warned us in 2002 of inevitable terrorist attacks in the USA targeting Civilians. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
88 posted on 04/26/2013 11:35:36 PM PDT by Jmathes
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To: caww

Niagara Falls where just tourists. Never heard anything more about Darien, CT. I think an Amtrak train was stopped for Darien, IIRC.


89 posted on 04/26/2013 11:43:06 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Her crimes in the US were shoplifting...it would cost far too much for the meesly 1,000 she took... and the store certainly wants no more press than it’s had already.

But keeping her quiet is Kinda for the same reason they put a muzzle on Michl wide-hips when her husband ran for Pres. She was creating far too many problems and getting in the way of his run.


90 posted on 04/26/2013 11:43:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: cynwoody

What do you guys think about it being just a timer?


91 posted on 04/26/2013 11:44:10 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Ray76

Rule out Darien...it was a robbery and they ruled him out..seems he’s a two-bit criminal with a rap sheet of some sort.


92 posted on 04/26/2013 11:49:56 PM PDT by caww
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To: Ray76
What do you guys think about it being just a timer?

Some Freepers pegged it in the original bombing thread as a remote control from the crime scene pictures. I'm sorry, but I don't have the link.
93 posted on 04/26/2013 11:50:06 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: caww

People have conjectured that “Roof Man” is security. Thing though about the body language he is exhibiting in the photos in how he is walking on the roof, he doesn’t appear to be acting like security, he appears more like a possibly very angry young man.


94 posted on 04/26/2013 11:50:11 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: American Constitutionalist

I agree except there’s too many theories that really are wild goose chases....and you can’t follow them all here on FR....let alone all the ones flooding the net.


95 posted on 04/26/2013 11:52:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

I disagree....the whole idea of security is to not look like security.


96 posted on 04/26/2013 11:53:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
You have a point there.

How he is acting right there as the blast goes off though isn't how I would expect someone who is security to be acting though.

97 posted on 04/26/2013 11:57:54 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: caww
" I agree except there’s too many theories that really are wild goose chases.. "

Bingo !

Perhaps ? maybe ? just speculation ? they invent wild wacko conspiracy theories to throw people off the hot trail and onto a cold trial ?

Enter in Agent Smith...... they all look alike, a decoy that fits the same description.
98 posted on 04/26/2013 11:59:21 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Ray76
What do you guys think about it being just a timer?

The electronic components the FBI apparently recovered have been identified by the RC car manufacturer as pieces of their products.

Also, a timer is more problematic to deploy. Once you set the backpack down and activate the timer, you absolutely, positively, must put distance between yourself and the backpack (unless you are in suicide mode, in which case, why have even a timer? and why attract notice by setting the pack down?). Then, when time is up, it goes, never mind if that's the optimal instant.

On the other hand, with a decent RC system, you can get away, turn around, and watching the crowd, pick the optimal moment. And then look up at Lord & Taylor's cam and say cheese.

BTW, that AQ Chef article everybody cites does not cover using RC controls. It confines itself to the old-fashioned makeshift clock timer:

  1. Disassemble the clock.
  2. If you want to set up the explosion to occur within an hour, cut off the arms of the clock except for the minutes arm. If you want more than an hour, you cut off all arms except for the hour arm.
  3. Make a hole in the face of the clock to insert the nail.
  4. ... etc.

Very basic stuff.

99 posted on 04/27/2013 12:01:28 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Jmathes

Boston was not a suicide mission.


100 posted on 04/27/2013 12:01:54 AM PDT by ObligedFriend
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