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Complete 3D-Printed Handgun Just Weeks Away, Says Cody Wilson
Reason ^ | Apr. 24, 2013 | J.D. Tuccille

Posted on 04/26/2013 10:33:29 PM PDT by neverdem

If you think 3D printers have given would-be gun controllers the vapors already, just wait until you hear the latest from Cody Wilson, the head honcho of Defense Distributed. He told reporters at the Inside 3D Printing Conference in New York City that the group's latest project — a gun made entirely with 3D-printed parts (except for a metal firing pin) — is just weeks away from success. If Wilson and company can deliver on the promise, it would be an important step beyond their already impressive accomplishments in producing functioning AR-15 lower receivers and "high-capacity" magazines for AR-15s and AK-style rifles. It would also be an unmistakable message to government officials that gun control laws are becoming ever-more unenforceable.

From Mashable:

For Cody Wilson, the world's most notorious 3D printing gunsmith, it all started with a simple question: "Can you use a 3D printer to print a gun?" The answer to that question might come sooner than anybody expected, as Wilson says he will 3D-print an entire handgun in just a couple of weeks.

If Wilson does print an entire handgun, he will reach a milestone that many thought couldn't be reached so soon. And he will also throw a monkey wrench into not only the broader gun control debate, but also into recent legislative efforts to limit the use of 3D printers to make weapons.

Yesterday, the controversial founder and director of Defense Distributed, a non-profit that he launched to explore the possibility of manufacturing weapons with 3D printers, was in Manhattan to talk at the Inside 3D Printing Conference. After a panel on how copyright affects the 3D printing industry, he confirmed to Mashable what he had already hinted at before: that what was once unthinkable — a gun entirely made of 3D-printed parts — is actually right around the corner.

Will it work? Wilson thinks it will, and it won't be just a one-shot wonder it will be able to fire a few shots before melting or breaking.

Some critics of Defense Distributed's efforts have pointed to the limitations of the materials used by all but the highest-end 3D printers as imposing barriers to creating a full firearm, at least at the current state of technology. But CNet separately reports Wilson's claim that "he and others successfully fired 11 rounds through a 3D-printed gun barrel not long ago." The trick seems to be that Defense Distributed is creating an all-new design around the material (ABS plastic) rather than trying to print parts for an existing firearm design.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 3dprinting; ar15; banglist; guncontrol; printedhandgun

1 posted on 04/26/2013 10:33:29 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The holy grail in any gun control agenda is to eliminate access to ammo. That's always the ultimate goal - gun confiscations are generally regarded as an unachievable pipe dream. But limits and complete control of ammo, there's the possibility. It doesn't matter how many guns someone has if they don't have a bullet to fire out of them.

But merely limiting commercial availability of ammo means that the reloader, who can make and distribute ammo outside of these restrictions. So thus the materials used in reloading is equally as desired as being eliminated from the marketplace.

And already, there are calls to eliminate and control any access to gunpowders - smokeless or black powder. To restrict access to lead and tungsten, to curtail the availability of brass. Cheap surplus from military? Virtually gone. Police ranges are melting down brass rather than sell it off to the reloading market. Calls for licensing of the purchase of gunpowders, of requiring specialized marking on firing pins and brass as well as markers in the bullets themselves, unique properties which the reloader won't be able to duplicate and thus produce legally.

And this 3D printed gun will kick all those efforts into high gear. Many on here were well prepared before the ammo shortages hit, now is the time to prepare for the ammo shortages of the future; get your powder, your lead, your tungsten, and your brass in hand now. Make sure you have the molds that will be required for your favorite rounds, even if you don't personally do reloading yourself. Most especially, get your primers now.

Because these restrictions are going to find their way into law. First they'll shut down internet and mail order of the supplies, then they'll go after the reloaders themselves for not meeting impossible marker requirements, microstamping, etc.

The well prepared person will probably have most of this already in hand. And a lot of us will be playing catchup.

2 posted on 04/26/2013 10:49:52 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu

Very important response, kingu. BUMP!


3 posted on 04/26/2013 10:57:39 PM PDT by golux
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To: neverdem

Barrels made from a forging or similar “working” would seem to be best. (along with chamber machining.)


4 posted on 04/26/2013 10:59:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: golux

Yep, back to the pre-history Chinese times.


5 posted on 04/26/2013 11:15:00 PM PDT by Paladin2
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6 posted on 04/26/2013 11:15:10 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

Yup. Ammo is the Achilles heel of the 2nd Amendment. I haven’t heard any calls to restrict gun powder sales yet, but I would not be surprised if such a call was made combined with new regulations on ammo sales.


7 posted on 04/26/2013 11:57:33 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: neverdem

all plastic. interesting.


8 posted on 04/27/2013 12:12:49 AM PDT by RC one
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To: 3Fingas
Sen. Lautenberg Wants Background Checks To Buy Gunpowder, Eyes Laws of Chemistry For Further Restriction
9 posted on 04/27/2013 12:14:34 AM PDT by RC one
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To: RC one

That was fast. Sometimes, I think the gun-grabbers check this site and do everything they can just to spite us.
I wonder what screen name Frank Lautenberg uses to troll this site. LOL.


10 posted on 04/27/2013 12:22:59 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

I have not read that chemical analysis of the bomb residue even confirmed that gun powder was the explosive used. There are countless low velocity explosive mixtures that can be used to make an IED. Imagine one if the large commercial fireworks exploding inside a sealed vessel that was filled with shrapnel for example. That ain’t gun powder.


11 posted on 04/27/2013 12:45:07 AM PDT by RC one
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To: RC one

I have seen some speculation about it on the interwebz — I don’t think any official information has been put out there yet.


12 posted on 04/27/2013 1:03:02 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

I heard something about them removing the powder from fireworks. That isn’t gunpowder. I really think Lautenberg needs to show us his evidence that it was in indeed gunpowder before we talk about restricting the sale of gunpowder.


13 posted on 04/27/2013 1:11:03 AM PDT by RC one
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To: RC one
"I really think Lautenberg needs to show us his evidence that it was in indeed gunpowder before we talk about restricting the sale of gunpowder."

No no no no no. I don't care if he can prove it was gunpowder taken directly from bullets! It does not matter! If your mindset is that Lautenberg has no legitimate case to restrict gunpowder because it was not used in the boston bombs, I can guarantee that he will have proof gunpowder was used the next time something blows up. You can't let them get this foot in the door. Stop being the girl with low self esteem at the prom. Its ok to say NO.

When they say, "Why do you need an AR15?" Respond, "Why do you NEED a car that goes over 55mph?" "Why do you NEED that iPhone?" "More people die texting and driving fast in cars every single day, but no one wants to ban cars."

"Why do I need access to gunpowder? Why do YOU need access to alcohol? Alcohol kills more people every day than gunpowder."

Refuse to play. Its the only way to win against the relentless illogical lying insanity that is liberalism.

14 posted on 04/27/2013 1:40:48 AM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: neverdem

I am reminded of A. E. van Vogt’s The Weapon Shops of Isher. If you are not familiar with this bit of 1950s science fiction, you should be.


15 posted on 04/27/2013 1:42:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: kingu

So why not 3-D print bullets and shells? If a 3-D printed gun can withhold the pressure of the explosion, why could a 3-D printed bullet or shell do the same? Seems like a logical leap. Now we just need to ask the question about the powder but I suspect, that there are other explosives that can do the work, just that powder as it is developed to today’s standards, is just the most efficient.

Just musing here.

JoMa


16 posted on 04/27/2013 2:08:42 AM PDT by joma89
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To: Casie

I agree but, at the same time, I don’t think it was gunpowder and I would love to expose this POS as the overzealous gun grabbing commie that he is. How sweet would it be to be able to excoriate him in the media for going after gun powder having not even bothered to confirm that it was actually gunpowder that was used? We could get years of play out of that.


17 posted on 04/27/2013 2:17:46 AM PDT by RC one
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To: 3Fingas

I used to make my own gunpowder in 6th grade. Easy to do and ingredients are abundant.Ever hear of powdered aluminum and powdered sugar mix?(rocket fuel)


18 posted on 04/27/2013 2:55:07 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: joma89

Metal storm doesn’t use cartridges.


19 posted on 04/27/2013 2:56:07 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: RC one
Yes. By all means feel free to expose this jackwagon as the Candy Crowley that he really is. But then be sure to kick him to the curb and not accidentally give his argument merit.
20 posted on 04/27/2013 3:21:15 AM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: kingu
The holy grail in any gun control agenda is to eliminate access to ammo.

Judging by the store shelves at my local Walmart, mission accomplished.

21 posted on 04/27/2013 4:10:53 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Renegade
I used to make my own gunpowder in 6th grade. Easy to do and ingredients are abundant.

So easy that even Captain Kirk could do it.


22 posted on 04/27/2013 4:14:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: kingu

Limit the ammo, and we’ll make a crude weapon to get a better one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI8hpf6KNyk


23 posted on 04/27/2013 4:47:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Casie
Refuse to play.



Refuse to play.

24 posted on 04/27/2013 4:49:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FreedomPoster

Weapon Shops is at least tied for first among my favorites. I have over thirty different Van Vogt books, including a quite rare copy of Slan. Dune is a close call. Dune plus the first chapter (maybe the first word, if my memory serves) of Dune Messiah might provide a clue to the question “why is there terrorism?”


25 posted on 04/27/2013 4:55:26 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: neverdem
it will be able to fire a few shots before melting or breaking.

Wow, that's certainly a gun I want for my collection.......

I wonder if that "breaking" term also includes a barrel explosion........

26 posted on 04/27/2013 4:57:37 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Renegade

Don’t give anybody any ideas. The gun-grabbers might go after powdered sugar next. :-D


27 posted on 04/27/2013 5:05:37 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: neverdem

Remember when the first glocks with the non metal parts came out? Politicians were having conniption fits claiming these handguns would be invisible to airport x-ray machines and metal detectors.........LOL!


28 posted on 04/27/2013 5:06:59 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: 3Fingas

You can make powdered sugar w/a food processor and granulated sugar. A bit of cornstarch prevents caking.


29 posted on 04/27/2013 5:13:25 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

No problem. They can regulate granulated sugar, sugar beets, and teaspoons next.


30 posted on 04/27/2013 5:28:02 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: neverdem

SPECIAL ALERT - FRIDAY QUICK QUIP

The True Believers

This is the second of three installments discussing who the gun controllers are, and how gun owners should deal with them. Last week, we discussed “low information types” - those individuals who can’t be bothered developing their own opinions so they adopt whatever position is spoon-fed to them by the media. This week, we’ll discuss the second category of gun controllers - the “true believers.”

The “true believer” category consists of individuals who have an unwavering belief that the Second Amendment must be obliterated and that civilians must be disarmed. What makes true believers troublesome is that they are committed to that end, and are near-obsessive about attaining it. On the plus side, the true believers usually don’t have the stomach for a fight with us. So, rather than confront us directly, they rely on the subjects of next week’s installment - political hacks - to do their dirty work for them.

For the sake of this discussion, the category of “true believers” may be further broken down into three subcategories: pacifists; victims of violence; and political haters. Each of these subcategories attracts a particular type of person and each plays a distinct role in the gun controllers’ campaign to take your guns away.

Because of religious or philosophical convictions, pacifists do not believe that individuals should commit acts of violence against others - including self defense. Pacifists believe that it’s better to suffer violence than to inflict it. Of course, pacifists are naturally anti-gun because they view firearms as tools of violence.

Standing alone, pacifists don’t pose a major threat to the right to keep and bear arms as their message of “turning the other cheek” is too bland for the general public to consume. However, pacifists play a significant role behind the scenes where they provide support to the activities of more aggressive components of the gun control movement.

Arguing gun rights with a pacifist is a waste of time. Even if they do engage you, they will not waver from their rejection of all forms of violence. Pacifists cannot be won over.

The second subcategory of gun control’s true believers can be described generally as victims of violence. This subcategory encompasses a wide range of persons to include families of murder victims as well as first hand survivors of violence. Whereas the vast majority of victims of violence do their best to recover and get on with their lives, there is a minority who allow their grief to turn into seething bitterness. Rather than make a positive contribution to prevent future violence, they embark on divisive, hate-filled campaigns against lawful firearm owners.

These victims of violence are ideal advocates for the abolishment of private firearm ownership. On the surface, they are vulnerable and weepy-eyed. But, below the surface, they are boiling over with hatred for people who own guns. That deep hatred fuels their drive to do whatever it takes to punish lawful gun owners.

These victims of violence are all about payback, and the payback they seek won’t be meted out to the criminals by whom they were victimized. No, the objects of their ire are the tens of millions of hunters, sportsmen and target shooters who responsibly exercise their right to keep and bear arms. These victims of violence claim that their campaign for domestic disarmament has the best interests of the public at heart. Chances are, these people couldn’t care less if others suffer the same fate as theirs. In fact, additional acts of violence only serve to justify their calls for the abolishment of private firearm ownership.

These people love the limelight. That is why they reside in the top positions in the Illinois gun control movement. That is why they take every opportunity to get in front of the cameras, tell their stories, and then mercilessly bash law-abiding firearm owners.

The most effective way to deal with these people is to meet them head-on. When they have a public meeting, the audience needs to be flooded with firearm owners. When they have a media event, the media needs to see more gun guys than anti-gunners. We need to confront them at every turn and vigorously defend the constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms.

Like pacifists, debating these people is pointless. They have dedicated their lives to destroying the 2nd Amendment. They cannot be reasoned with. They cannot be educated.

The third subcategory of true believers consists of the political haters - so called “progressives” who are obsessed with eliminating from society all traces of social conservatism. The political haters view firearm ownership as being the most cohesive component of the socially conservative bloc. Thus, they feel that by attacking the right to keep and bear arms, they will weaken the conservative movement. These people target low-information types with their anti-gun message.

The political haters are dispersed throughout society. They are your children’s teachers, the clergy; entertainers and, of course, politicians. Again, these are not people who may be reasoned with. They are driven to crush their political opponents.

The best way to deal with the political haters is to deny them a platform to spew their hatred of the Constitution. Their lies and distortions about firearm ownership must be cut off before they may influence low-information types.

In a nutshell, the true believers hate firearms and the people who own them. They provide plenty of fodder for next week’s Quick Quip subjects - political hacks - to do the dirty work of banning firearms. These people can be trusted to do only one thing. That is, they will work tirelessly to take your guns away from you. Do not waste your time trying to reason with them. Save your energy for efforts to suppress them.

NEXT WEEK: Political Hacks.
http://isra.org/


31 posted on 04/27/2013 5:46:02 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: 3Fingas

I recall seeing a movie awhile back where BBs in a suicide vest were replaced by high-tech ceramic balls. Point is that human ingenuity is going to be accelerated by all these bans.
Where there’s a will....

Let them ban away. There is a point where it will all become a big joke and laughter is deadly to politicians.


32 posted on 04/27/2013 5:50:11 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: neverdem; AFPhys; AD from SpringBay; ADemocratNoMore; aimhigh; AnalogReigns; archy; ...
3-D Printer Ping!

And a

Ma'am photo a-tip-o-the-hat-to-you.jpg

to Gondring!

33 posted on 04/27/2013 7:04:24 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: RC one
Whatever America's Chechens... photo 1714484_zps17100373.jpg used, it wasn't much of an explosive, the circuit board survived intact, the battery's label wasn't even scorched, there was no stippling on the remains of the pot from the shrapnel, windows next door to the explosion weren't even broken.
34 posted on 04/27/2013 7:10:38 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: 3Fingas
No problem. They can regulate granulated sugar, sugar beets, and teaspoons next.

Anything to fight the obesity epidemic!

(Maybe they'll finally lose Michael Much Moore's support?)

35 posted on 04/27/2013 7:14:21 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Renegade

Hm, but would there be a market such a mix?


36 posted on 04/27/2013 7:45:02 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: kingu

I’ve wondered about whether electronic ignition might be the wave of the future for home-built weapons? I was decidedly non-plused by the Remington E-tronix concept, but for home-built ammo electronic ignition might be easier than producing the necessary chemicals for conventional primers, while being potentially more reliable than flint.


37 posted on 04/27/2013 7:54:58 AM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: neverdem

I’m looking forward to the first thread on 3D printing. I’ve gotta get one of those things.


38 posted on 04/27/2013 8:26:25 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 04/27/2013 8:52:07 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: RC one
Imagine one if the large commercial fireworks exploding inside a sealed vessel that was filled with shrapnel for example.

The Tsarnaev brothers bought TWO OF THESE. Each box contains TEN ROUNDS. One or two of these in a pressure cooker would make a large anti-personnel bomb. They even have their own very long fuses.


40 posted on 04/27/2013 9:18:22 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: RC one
I heard something about them removing the powder from fireworks.

There was no need to remove it from the fireworks that they bought.

41 posted on 04/27/2013 9:20:05 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: narses; SunkenCiv; neverdem; KeyLargo

Good points! Very good summary of their hatred and emotional “needs” to control somebody else’s weapons do they
“feel” safer.

Not that they actually ARE safer, but so they can “feel” safer.


42 posted on 04/27/2013 9:50:43 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: skeeter

You need to get on null and void’s ping list.


43 posted on 04/27/2013 10:07:52 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: neverdem

DOCUMENTARY ABOUT CODY WILSON

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DconsfGsXyA


44 posted on 04/27/2013 11:26:00 AM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Yo-Yo

The Gorn! One of the best episodes.


45 posted on 04/27/2013 11:34:21 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: doug from upland

Thanks for the link. It’s good to see that you’re still posting.


46 posted on 04/27/2013 2:22:21 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

Thanks. I occasionally make it back here. It is tough being in business during the Obamaconomy. Very long hours.


47 posted on 04/27/2013 5:51:48 PM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: supercat

“I’ve wondered about whether electronic ignition might be the wave of the future for home-built weapons?”

I think so. CVA used to sell a muzzleloader called the Electra, but it has been discontinued due to poor sales. Customer reviews seemed good, but too many states outlawed electronic ignition for blackpowder hunting and that probably killed off most sales. A pity, it was one of those things that I had intended to buy someday.


48 posted on 04/27/2013 10:56:22 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: UCANSEE2
1 or 2 of those wouldn't do jack.

I've accidentally put one of those upside down in the launch tube. They blow up when you do that. Made a big bang and blew the plastic launch tube off of its base, but didn't hurt the tube or base otherwise.

Set one of those off in a pressure cooker, and I could still make my dinner with it afterward.

49 posted on 04/29/2013 8:15:35 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: neverdem

It can fire a few shots before “breaking”? That’s better than I would have thought possible.

But if “breaking” means “exploding,” there may be more work to do.


50 posted on 04/29/2013 8:28:06 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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