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Faith at the Finish Line in Boston [clergy turned away]
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 25, 2013 | Jennifer Graham

Posted on 04/27/2013 12:35:27 PM PDT by Lonely Bull

The heart-wrenching photographs taken in the moments after the Boston Marathon bombings show the blue-and-yellow jackets of volunteers, police officers, fire fighters, emergency medical technicians, even a three-foot-high blue M&M. Conspicuously absent are any clerical collars or images of pastoral care.

--SNIP--

When the priests at St. Clement's, three blocks away, heard the explosions, they gathered sacramental oils and hurried to the scene in hopes of anointing the injured and, if necessary, administering last rites, the final of seven Catholic sacraments. But the priests, who belong to the order Oblates of the Virgin Mary, weren't allowed at the scene.

The Rev. John Wykes, director of the St. Francis Chapel at Boston's soaring Prudential Center, and the Rev. Tom Carzon, rector of Our Lady of Grace Seminary, were among the priests who were turned away right after the bombings

--SNIP--

In light of the devastation in Boston, the denial of access to clergy is a trifling thing, and it might even have been an individual's error. (The Boston Police Department did not respond to a request for comment on its policy regarding clergy at the scenes of emergencies.)

But it is a poignant irony that Martin Richard, the 8-year-old boy who died on Boylston Street, was a Catholic who had received his first Communion just last year. As Martin lay dying, priests were only yards away, beyond the police tape, unable to reach him to administer last rites—a sacrament that, to Catholics, bears enormous significance.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 20130415; boston; bostonmarathon; catholic; clergy; faith; finish; finishline; lastrites; line; marathon
Hat tip to Fr. Z's Blog (here, "The effects of secularism at the Marathon’s finish line").
1 posted on 04/27/2013 12:35:27 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull

political correctness gone wild

:-(


2 posted on 04/27/2013 12:38:08 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Lonely Bull

“In light of the devastation in Boston, the denial of access to clergy is a trifling thing, and it might even have been an individual’s error”

Whoah Whoah

Oh I have to forward this. I am steaming.

Eternal life is Trifling. Ahh.

What is WITH these people Trifling this twit thinks absolution at the time of death is trifling. Does she think priests are unnecessary and people just pass into heaven? This kid is judged as a Catholic at the time of judgement. HO! Whoah.

Does she think men go into the priesthood well for what?
Oh. Now I have to write them
Geeze.

the irresponsibility!


3 posted on 04/27/2013 12:41:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Lonely Bull

If an Imam had wanted to rush to the scene to praise Allah for the death and dismemberment of Infidels, they’d have given him an escort!


4 posted on 04/27/2013 12:43:02 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Lonely Bull

We have seen the worst of Boston.

Priests not allowed in to give last rites, Invasion of homes, Martial law.

They are lucky it was Boston where no one is armed. If they had invaded homes like that in real America someone would have died from invading people’s homes.


5 posted on 04/27/2013 12:49:25 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Lonely Bull

I’m surprised the priests responded in the way they did. I thought last rites was so “pre-Vatican 2.”


6 posted on 04/27/2013 12:57:29 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Lonely Bull
THis has got to be the work of the homosexual mafia.

I don't even see comitted athiests turning away priests from the scene of a tragedy.

7 posted on 04/27/2013 1:00:58 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Venturer

” They are lucky it was Boston where no one is armed. If they had invaded homes like that in real America someone would have died from invading people’s homes.”

It wouldn’t have gone well here in AZ :)

But Boston is to the left of San Francisco.


8 posted on 04/27/2013 1:04:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: JimRed
‘If an Imam had wanted to rush to the scene to praise Allah for the death and dismemberment of Infidels, they’d have given him an escort!’

_____

Absolutely, and at the order of the white hut!

9 posted on 04/27/2013 1:12:21 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: SteveH

We are not Catholic. In 1967 while stationed at Ft. Rucker, we were under such emotional stress. Finances were horrible, etc. Decided to go see a chaplain on base. Sent me into the Prostant chaplain. He said Young Lady, your husband is married to the Army now and the best thing you can do for him is go home to your Family. I left the office weeping, rounded the corner and ran smack dap into the Catholic chaplin. He took me into His office talked with me and told me I was doing the right thing by being with my husband, He was going to Vietnam and might not return, and I would never forgive myself if went home. Needless to say He has lasting Memories I cherish. what a injustice they did to these people. Mrs.easternsky


10 posted on 04/27/2013 1:12:21 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Lonely Bull

I see this as a special case. For most disasters there is no problem with clergy being in attendance as long as there is no risk of contaminating a crime scene, but a bombing or explosive fire is an “ongoing risk”, in which at any moment things can get much, much worse.

Remember that video last week of the people in Texas filming the fertilizer plant burning? They were 300 yards away when the plant exploded in earnest, (at about 1:20 on the video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDC3iKbTzY

In the case of terrorist bombings, it is common practice for bombers to set off a small bomb, that causes people to flee to a place away from the blast and cluster together, where a second bomb is concealed, larger, and intended to make far more casualties.

They also make bombs that target emergency responders, such as firemen and police, figuring that if they take them out, it will kill many wounded people who cannot get emergency first aid.

So in the case of a bombing, emergency responders try to give essential care on scene, like stopping arterial bleeding that can kill in seconds, but then immediately transport wounded away in different directions.

This exact thing was seen at the marathon bombing, as a man missing both his lower legs was being carried off, another man pinching his exposed artery shut while carrying him.

Ambulances are told to park away from each other, because terrorists will often make an ambulance truck bomb.

How can priests fit into this situation? Only in the way they can do so in the middle of a battle in war.


11 posted on 04/27/2013 1:36:10 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Lonely Bull

Our Feral Government allowed access to Muslims, just not Christians.


12 posted on 04/27/2013 1:41:18 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Lonely Bull

I would be fine if the state worked out official clergy ID, if security is an issue. There should be some to allow clergy to get to victims without hassle.


13 posted on 04/27/2013 1:41:33 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Oratam

No:

“Upon hearing the news that the World Trade Center had been hit, Judge rushed to the site. He was met by the Mayor of New York, Rudolph Giuliani, who asked him to pray for the city and its victims. Judge administered the Last Rites to some lying on the streets, then entered the lobby of the
World Trade Center North Tower, where an emergency command post was organized. There he continued offering aid and prayers for the rescuers, the injured and dead.

When the South Tower collapsed at 9:59 am, debris went flying through the North Tower lobby, killing many inside, including Judge. At the moment he was struck in the head and killed, Judge was repeatedly praying aloud.

and:
Father Rutler, host of EWTN’s Christ in the City, remembers “every moment of that day…. It’s printed in one’s mind. I have kind of a total recall.”

He had just been named pastor of the Church of Our Saviour on Park Avenue but was still at his former Church of St. Agnes by Grand Central Terminal.

“The weather was ethereally beautiful,” he recalled of that late summer Tuesday in New York. “The temperature was mild. A bright blue sky. Such contradiction to all the smoke and the horror.”

He heard a plane that seemed to be flying right over his head and wondered why such a large plane was flying so low. Then he heard the sound from downtown.

As soon as he heard that sound, he literally ran the distance to lower Manhattan, saw the building on fire and went into St. Peter’s church looking for the holy oils. The church, which is just a block away from the trade center, was empty, but he said the impact of the crash had been so great that file cabinets were pushed from the walls and everything was coated with white dust.

Franciscan Father Mychal Judge, chaplain to the Fire Department of New York, was in one of the Twin Towers ministering to the injured when an object fell on him, killing him. Fireman carried his body into St. Peter’s church.

“The firemen in shock came in with the priest’s body,” Father Rutler recalled. “He was the first officially recorded death. They put his body in front of the altar. It was very moving. There is a picture of the Crucifixion over the altar. I remember blood coming down the altar steps. I shall always remember that scene.”

Scenes of Horror

Next he saw a policeman sitting on the steps of the church weeping. “That reduced everything to a human scale,” he said. “I knew everything was bad, but at that time I didn’t know the scale of it.”

“Firemen were lining up to go into the building, asking for absolution,” he continued. “I was giving general absolution; they were going into a battlefield. One always has these mental images of the firemen going up these staircases and the people coming down.”

The Catechism of the Catholic Church (1483) explains that in the case of grave necessity a general absolution is the recourse. “Grave necessity of this sort can arise when there is imminent danger of death without sufficient time for the priest or priests to hear each penitent’s confession,” it states, referring to Canon 961 of the Code of Canon Law. The faithful must have contrition and the intention of individually confessing in due time each of the grave sins which cannot then be confessed.

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/remembering-9-112#ixzz2RhS421tD


14 posted on 04/27/2013 2:02:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
How can priests fit into this situation? Only in the way they can do so in the middle of a battle in war.

They do so willingly. Priests ministering to those in the middle of a chaotic and dangerous situation know the risks. Fr. Judge knew the risks, but he also knew he had a DUTY to be there, and be of comfort to those who may not make it out.

15 posted on 04/27/2013 2:16:40 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Lonely Bull

Shameful.


16 posted on 04/27/2013 2:40:50 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Lonely Bull

My minister was chaplain to the local Sheriff and PD and was called out to more than one tragic scene where his aid and comfort to the victims was essential. So much for the good Irishmen on the Boston PD. How sad.


17 posted on 04/27/2013 3:16:27 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Background checks, Mr. President? You first ...)
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To: easternsky

divine providence; you were truly blessed that day.


18 posted on 04/27/2013 3:19:36 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Background checks, Mr. President? You first ...)
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To: Lonely Bull

now, if athe were muslims-—


19 posted on 04/27/2013 3:27:37 PM PDT by 1st Division guy
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To: Lonely Bull

The priests weren’t strong enough in their faith. They should have disobeyed the civil authorities and done everything necessary to get to those in need of their attentions. At the very least they should have forced the civil authorities to restrain them physically. They had a higher duty than to obey the civil authorities—to obey God’s authority.


20 posted on 04/27/2013 3:51:08 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: SuziQ

That is the point that, while willing to take risks themselves, they would agree that their risk taking should not risk *others*. Again, with the unique situation of a bomb having gone off, with more bombs possibly soon to go off.

I’m seeing this entirely from the perspective of a terrorist bombing response and emergency services. The number one priority is to get every living person away and EOD in there to look for other bombs and defuse them before they can kill and maim even more people. There might even be truck bombs with the intent of taking down high rise buildings.

What muddles the situation are swine like Bloomberg, who intentionally excluded clergy at the memorial to 9-11. That is worlds apart from what I’m talking about.


21 posted on 04/27/2013 4:23:10 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Doug Loss
The priests weren’t strong enough in their faith.

What a bunch of malarkey!

22 posted on 04/27/2013 4:36:07 PM PDT by mtg
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To: stanne

Thank you.


23 posted on 04/27/2013 6:21:49 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: mtg; Doug Loss

No. that’s the way I see it. I think DL is quite correct. I’m going to follow this story.


24 posted on 04/27/2013 6:38:21 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Oratam

:)
Fr. Rutler is still at the Church of Our Savior. I believe it’s on 4th (Park, below Grand central). Haven’t been home in years, so . . .

But, I wrote him today; wanted to make sure he saw this, I’m sure, but. . . buried in a Saturday WSJ, anyone could miss it.


25 posted on 04/27/2013 6:42:09 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne; Doug Loss

Where do you two get off questioning the status of these priests’ faith?

I’m appalled !!!

.


26 posted on 04/27/2013 6:53:27 PM PDT by Mears
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To: stanne
No. that’s the way I see it. I think DL is quite correct.

You honestly think these priests lack faith because they did not force their way onto police, causing all kinds of problems for them during the middle of a major catastrophe? That is absurd.

27 posted on 04/27/2013 7:40:33 PM PDT by mtg
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To: Mears

A child did not get last rites. Why? What kept the priests form getting in there?

That is very questionable.


28 posted on 04/27/2013 7:55:01 PM PDT by stanne
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To: mtg

The catstrophe was threat of death. The only thing worse than that is the threat of eternal damnation, and by far.

What happened?


29 posted on 04/27/2013 7:56:11 PM PDT by stanne
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Rev. Tom Carzon

Former Pastor at Holy Ghost in Denver. A very devout Priest.

30 posted on 04/27/2013 8:10:39 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: mtg; Mears

From the article, the Wall Street Journal, a more right leaning NY paper:

“In light of the devastation in Boston, the denial of access to clergy is a trifling thing . .”

Why is ANYONE walking away with THIS notion?

These are trying times. We have the USCCB, including Cardinal Dolan, coming out with statements that make headlines which read “Ardinal Dolan Agrees with Obama, there needs to be Gun Control” and Archbishop Gomez spending Parish money $800,000 to assist illegal Mexicans in this country.

NOT A PEEP{ PEEP about Gosnell Nary a word about abortion not a sound from the pulpit about the scourge on the family that is birth control not a word.


31 posted on 04/27/2013 8:11:37 PM PDT by stanne
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To: mtg; Mears

All due respect, of course.

It’s just that there’s no way anyone was going to keep out priests from the twin Towers bombing. They died for it, as did many in the battlefield, which this was.


32 posted on 04/27/2013 8:25:05 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
My original post about last rites being pre-Vatican 2 was partly facetious. I think Joe and Mary Catholic in the pews think the last rites (and the failure to receive them in extremis) isn't the big deal today that it was 50 years ago. Pope Benedict spent much of his papacy clearing up the misunderstanding concerning the church before and the church after the Second Vatican Council. I hope folks were paying attention.

When I can get my lazy butt out of bed in time, I attend 9 o'clock Mass at Our Saviour. Otherwise, it's 11 o'clock at St. Agnes.

33 posted on 04/27/2013 8:33:19 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: stanne
From the article, the Wall Street Journal, a more right leaning NY paper:

That statement itself shows how naive you are.

The editorial pages of the Journal are conservative. the news pages of the Journal are liberal. I doubt you realize that a past editor of the Journal was none other than Mr. Judy Woodruff, aka Al Hunt.

34 posted on 04/27/2013 8:53:36 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Oh. IS there a conservative NY paper?


35 posted on 04/27/2013 9:19:26 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Oratam

Great.


36 posted on 04/27/2013 9:19:49 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

The NY Post, toots.


37 posted on 04/27/2013 10:05:14 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Oh, man!


38 posted on 04/27/2013 11:21:55 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Mears
You're appalled. How very progressive of you, being upset because someone has a different viewpoint than you. As more than one person has said, the priests in NYC would never have let the civil authorities keep them from performing their sacramental duties on 9/11. Sorry, but you're just wrong.
39 posted on 04/28/2013 5:04:47 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: mtg
You honestly think these priests lack faith because they did not force their way onto police, causing all kinds of problems for them during the middle of a major catastrophe?

Yes, I do.

40 posted on 04/28/2013 5:06:17 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: mtg
You honestly think these priests lack faith because they did not force their way onto police, causing all kinds of problems for them during the middle of a major catastrophe?

Yes, I do. And if you think priests administering last rites for the terminally injured cause "all kinds of problems," you need to have your head examined.

41 posted on 04/28/2013 5:06:58 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

You are completely wrong claiming these priests lack faith.


42 posted on 04/28/2013 6:45:53 AM PDT by mtg
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To: mtg

Perhaps not lacking faith, but certainly lacking the courage to act on their convictions.


43 posted on 04/28/2013 12:18:33 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

“—— being upset because someone has a different viewpoint than you.”

.

I’m not appalled over a difference of a viewpoint,it’s the questioning of the strength of someone’s faith that bothers me.

.


44 posted on 04/28/2013 1:15:43 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Doug Loss
As more than one person has said, the priests in NYC would never have let the civil authorities keep them from performing their sacramental duties on 9/11. Sorry, but you're just wrong.

Boston and New York are two entirely different situations. In New York, the police and firemen were concentrating on getting the people out of the buildings. Priests weren't trying to climb the stairs with them, but they were allowed to be on the ground, near the staging areas. That's how Fr. Judge died; one of the people jumping from the upper floors landed on him.

Yes, in Boston there was concern about other possible bombs, but there were plenty of civilians helping the wounded. There is no reason that the priests should have been denied the ability to comfort the dying, and the severely wounded. It wasn't like there were thrity or forty of them. One or two more people inside the cordon weren't going to contaminate the scene any more than the folks already there had done, and the priests would have been willing to take the risk of additional bombs.

45 posted on 04/28/2013 2:50:03 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Doug Loss

But all that being said, the priests understood that getting into some sort of altercation with the police wasn’tgoing to help anyone, and would have taken the police’s focus off the matter at hand; looking for who had perpetrated this heinous act. That doesn’t mean the faith of those priests was weak, nor were they shirking their duties as priests, they were simply being logical about the situation. Nothing at all wrong with that. The little boy may have died without benefit of the Last Rites, but I believe he was received warmly by his His Father in Heaven.


46 posted on 04/28/2013 2:59:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Sorry SuziQ, but you’re wrong. The priests forcing their way into the scene would most definitely hoep someone—the dying who as it was were denied the last rites. Yes, they were shirking their priestly duties. Those duties include defying the civil authorities when they are preventing the priests from performing their fundamental sacraments. It wouldn’t have taken the police’s focus off the matter at hand at all to let the priests give last rites to the dying, that’s a silly argument. As to being logical about the situation, that’s also a silly argument. If a government edict can determine when you can or can’t perform one of the most fundamental sacraments of the church, then you are no longer working for the church, you’re working for the government. Your “logic” is in fact a total cession to civil authorities of their responsibility to God and the church. That’s shirking their priestly duties, there’s no other way to see it.


47 posted on 04/28/2013 3:38:14 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

Yes, there IS another way to see it. We just disagree on that way.


48 posted on 04/28/2013 7:28:12 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Lonely Bull

Catholic priests were turned away. God will get His say later on!


49 posted on 04/28/2013 7:39:22 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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50 posted on 04/28/2013 7:41:22 PM PDT by narses
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