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APNewsBreak: Russia caught bomb suspect on wiretap
Townhall.com ^ | April 27, 2013 | AP/Adam Goldman & Michael Kunzelman

Posted on 04/27/2013 3:14:08 PM PDT by jazusamo

WASHINGTON (AP) — Russian authorities secretly recorded a telephone conversation in 2011 in which one of the Boston bombing suspects vaguely discussed jihad with his mother, officials said Saturday, days after the U.S. government finally received details about the call.

In another conversation, the mother of now-dead bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev was recorded talking to someone in southern Russia who is under FBI investigation in an unrelated case, officials said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: boston; cia; democrats; fbi; immigration; islam; jihad; jihadmama; liberalism; liberals; marathonbomb; mentaldisorder; muslims; obama; religionofpeace; russia; terror; terrorism; tsarnaeva; wot
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It seams mother Zubeidat is quite the liar and encouraged jihad.
1 posted on 04/27/2013 3:14:08 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Of course, all this was swept under the rug because Islam is a religion of peace.


2 posted on 04/27/2013 3:17:00 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: jazusamo

Doesn’t sound like Misha spends time in the US? Unless I’m reading this wrong.


3 posted on 04/27/2013 3:26:15 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

talking to someone in southern Russia who is under FBI investigation in an unrelated case,


I mean, did this Southern Russian do something here, then run
back home?


4 posted on 04/27/2013 3:28:30 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: jazusamo

This is what happens when the Muslim Brotherhood gains influence over national security.


5 posted on 04/27/2013 3:28:36 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: jazusamo
You know damn well Obama and minions are lying like hell....just like Benghanzi.

Putin is going to step to the mike and straighten this out. Russia has been diplomatic to date...but if Obama thinks we can blame it on Russia.... He's nuts.

I'm truly embarrassed by the USA President for the first time in my life....and I'm 70.

6 posted on 04/27/2013 3:30:50 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jazusamo
Schizophrenia is genetic ~ and we seem to have discovered the ancestral source!

Worth remembering ~ and with enough research you can look it up ~ lots of articles on it ~ rates of schizophrenia are different for different ethnicities.

In the US, the largest ethnic group has a 1.2% rate. The next largest group comes in at 3.6 to 6.0% depending on origin. The European researchers suggest that the Chechnyans have rate of at least 9% ~ and probably higher, but they just can't get everybody to stop for a short talk with a friendly psychiatric researcher.

The Chechnyans ARE ALSO a remnant from a far larger population at the beginning of WWII. Stalin rounded them up and shipped them to Siberia ~ half died along the way. No doubt even more died in Siberia.

Folks have always wondered if schizophrenia had some sort of survival value ~ otherwise it seemed it would have been bred out of civilized human beings. Getting shipped to Siberia might have shown schizophrenia's advantage ~ it turns many into animals who survive no matter what.

It's all so sad ~ but very dangerous for the rest of us.

Let's look forward to an effective treatment or a cure.

7 posted on 04/27/2013 3:31:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: txhurl
The way it's written it's not too clear, it sounds like the FBI doesn't want to talk about him, it also sounds like Misha is a jihadist recruiter.
8 posted on 04/27/2013 3:32:34 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

It sounds like the FBI got caught lying. I think BIG coverup here....even worse then Benghazi.


9 posted on 04/27/2013 3:37:24 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jazusamo

Maybe Putin will take care of both her and her husband with a bullet to their head.


10 posted on 04/27/2013 3:37:50 PM PDT by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: txhurl

I mean, did this Southern Russian do something here, then run
back home?

***************

Well don’t know about other things but she was caught and charged with theft sometime in 2012 of over $1,600 worth of items from Lord and Taylor department store. She vacated the USA before going to court as I understand it.


11 posted on 04/27/2013 3:38:14 PM PDT by deport
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To: Sacajaweau
Agreed...Obama and thugs do nothing but lie if it suits their purpose. It would be a hoot if Putin would straighten it out in no uncertain terms.
12 posted on 04/27/2013 3:38:45 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Family members have said Tamerlan was religiously apathetic until 2008 or 2009, when he met a conservative Muslim convert known only to the family as Misha. Misha, they said, steered Tamerlan toward a stricter version of Islam.


Weren’t the T Bros here then? So Misha would have radicalized them here....? The hint-bragging that they’ve *IDd Misha* tells us something, why not tell us? Can the FBI investigate him while in Russia?

At any rate, dollar-to-doughnuts ‘Misha’ is in that group photo with all OBL’s sons. Probably *a* son.


13 posted on 04/27/2013 3:39:44 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: muawiyah

Schizophrenia is not gentic, it is learned.


14 posted on 04/27/2013 3:40:12 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: penelopesire

One for the Boston list.


15 posted on 04/27/2013 3:42:04 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: jazusamo

Just doing the shoplifting and bombing that Americans are unwilling to do themselves!


16 posted on 04/27/2013 3:42:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: kabumpo

nope ~ sorry ~ it’s genetic. final proof was reported just two weeks ago. https://register.columbiacme.org/conf erence.cgi?rm=view&conference_id=579012n saw a great number of papers presented concerning exactly this topic. There’s a 90% correspondence for schizophrenia and 5 other psyciatric conditions and specific gene configurations. There are at present no cures!


17 posted on 04/27/2013 3:48:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: txhurl
From what I've read the brothers were here at that time and have idea if the FBI would attempt to go into Russia.

I don't know the origin of the name Misha but it sounds like it's closer to a Chechnyan Muslim name than an Arab one.

18 posted on 04/27/2013 3:50:09 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: txhurl
none of the other family members have said they personally met Misha ~ they just give a description the mad bomber told them about. Remember SON OF SAM? This is so common it isn't funny. It's also hereditary so finding the baby mama and the brother also affected is hardly a surprise!

If he was a fan of boxing, wrestling and weight lifting music he was familiar with Fatboy Slim's music. One of them has a repeated lyric that appears to contain the name 'Misha'

19 posted on 04/27/2013 3:51:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jazusamo

“But the scope was extremely limited under the FBI’s internal procedures”

http://www.examiner.com/article/fbi-implements-obama-s-politically-correct-counterterrorism-training

Under the watchful eyes of President Barack Obama, the Federal Bureau of Investigation is revising its counterterrorism training programs by removing all references to Muslims and Arab-Americas that are said to be offensive to civil-rights groups such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the American Civil Liberties Group (ACLU), a federal law enforcement source told the Law Enforcement Examiner on Thursday.

Dick Durbin “GANG OF EIGHT pushing for Immigration for more terrorists) pushed for this...


20 posted on 04/27/2013 3:51:40 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: jazusamo; OwenKellogg; bunster; thouworm; maggief; onyx; nutmeg; AllAmericanGirl44; ...

Boston Bombing ping!!

Thanks txhurl!!


21 posted on 04/27/2013 3:52:25 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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22 posted on 04/27/2013 3:53:14 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

The sons were doing what their mother wanted. This isn’t over yet.


23 posted on 04/27/2013 3:53:18 PM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: Sacajaweau

Don’t be embarrassed.

In future, we WILL find that the kenyan is an imposter and here only to destroy.

Now, tell me to go put on my tin foil hat.


24 posted on 04/27/2013 3:54:29 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: deport

You have it right.
She was a no show.


25 posted on 04/27/2013 3:56:41 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: jazusamo

And the Russians forewarned us... repeatedly, and this evil regime did nothing at all to stop the Tsarnaevs. Vladimir Putin seemed to have the safety of Americans as a higher priority than Obama. Is the world upside down or what?


26 posted on 04/27/2013 3:57:01 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: muawiyah

I know that there is a school of materialist fundamentalism that believes that everything can be reduced to a quantifiable external cause. I consider the entire premise to be diabolical and culturally illiterate.

And how are they doing on the ”gay gene”?
Let us all know about the latest papers on that justification for sodomy and perversion.


27 posted on 04/27/2013 3:57:22 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: jazusamo

Gorbachev’s nick was Misha. An arab AQ guy would probably pick an alias to sound at least somewhat native to where he was recruiting and training, I suppose...

And the ‘on an unrelated’ thing. If you’re a jihad trainer, every case you’re involved in is related, no?

I guess they’re waiting for other shoes to drop before they
reveal who Misha is.


28 posted on 04/27/2013 3:58:48 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

“In a second call, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva spoke with a man in the Caucasus region of Russia who was under FBI investigation. Jacqueline Maguire, a spokeswoman for the FBI’s Washington Field Office, where that investigation was based, declined to comment.”

So in one breath the FBI says they had nothing on this family .and in another, they were aware of her in another investigation?

Time to drag these folks before congressional hearings. This is getting ridiculous.


29 posted on 04/27/2013 4:03:33 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: ScottinVA

Amen to that. The world is upside down when a Russian leader seems to have more concern for Americans than our president. BHO is only concerned about himself.


30 posted on 04/27/2013 4:08:47 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: penelopesire

Yeah, and supposedly this Misha guy is a big catch. I keep thinking the FBI is cat’n’mousing the admin, particularly Napolitano.


31 posted on 04/27/2013 4:09:42 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

Good points. I doubt we’ll hear much more from the FBI on Misha, hopefully more will come from others.


32 posted on 04/27/2013 4:11:58 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
You could not be more correct. Zubeidat named her sons Tamerlan and Dzhokhar.

Tamerlan is named for Tamerlane or Timur The Lame. He was a 14th/15th century Islamic conqueror who practiced Jihad from Anatolia to Kashgar. He killed 100,000 Hindu captives when he took Deli and killed all but 60,000 Christian Armenians - whom he enslaved. In all, it's estimated that Tamerlane killed about 17 million people. This is who she named her first born son after.

Dzhokhar is named for Dzhokhar Dudayev, first (and hopefully last) president of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Dudayev was a former Soviet Air Force (strategic bomber) general. He was given the Order of the Red Star and the Order of the Red Banner for dropping lots of bombs on Afghans and he refused to shut down the Estonian parliament and TV during the KGB coup in 1991, so he's wasn't always pure evil.

Dudayev declared full independence from Russia in 1993, the year Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was born. This triggered a bloody civil war that has gone on for 20 years now. He was "martyred" by a Russian laser guided missile while chatting on a satellite phone in 1996.

It's pretty easy to see what the proud Tsarnaev family hoped their sons would become.

33 posted on 04/27/2013 4:14:46 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

And let us not forget Chechens relish raping and murdering schoolchildren. I wonder if Lanza was infected with Chechen Islamism.


34 posted on 04/27/2013 4:18:08 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: kabumpo

Sorry, could you explain? S. is not learned.


35 posted on 04/27/2013 4:18:47 PM PDT by STD (One day closer to street justice)
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To: Nachum

Nachum, what flavor of islam was Lanza, do you remember?


36 posted on 04/27/2013 4:22:13 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: jazusamo

she needs to be taken yachting


37 posted on 04/27/2013 4:22:32 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: WildWeasel

To say I am deeply suspicious of the mother would be a huge understatement.


38 posted on 04/27/2013 4:23:13 PM PDT by berdie
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Thanks for your post, it's most enlightening. Did not know the history of their names but it says volumes about Zubeidat and their father.
39 posted on 04/27/2013 4:25:53 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/putin-says-russias-tip-on-boston-bombing-suspect-didnt-have-operative-significance.php


40 posted on 04/27/2013 4:28:02 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jazusamo

And notice, it’s been completely ignored by the press.


41 posted on 04/27/2013 4:31:11 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: Sacajaweau
I think Putin has acquired a little leverage of his own.

The article says Russia contacted the CIA...We've heard nothing from them right??

42 posted on 04/27/2013 4:31:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jazusamo

Cultural diversity not withstanding:

Quote:

“If they are going to kill him. I don’t care. My oldest son is killed, so I don’t care. I don’t care if my youngest son is going to be killed today. I want the world to hear this. And, I don’t care if I am going to get killed too. And I will say Allahu Akbar!“

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muMu0ay9xJM


43 posted on 04/27/2013 4:32:53 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s a good article. I sincerely hope Putin knows it’s the left that supports the chechens, not us. I was here for the Beslan and Moscow theatre threads and a lot of us were itching to be able to help out.


44 posted on 04/27/2013 4:36:08 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Fitzy_888
He has served his purpose. He killed Americans.

She gave a son to do so. She's fulfilled her duty.

45 posted on 04/27/2013 4:37:49 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Fitzy_888

Now that is a real fanatic, being a mother means nothing to her.


46 posted on 04/27/2013 4:40:12 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: All

CNN is reporting this thread

On another subject (sorry, don’t know how to post) — there has been an explosion at the Marathon Refinery in Detroit, MI. CBS reported. I know nothing more.


47 posted on 04/27/2013 4:42:03 PM PDT by bunster
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To: jazusamo

You should watch “Cleanskin” to understand a Misha-type character.


48 posted on 04/27/2013 4:42:20 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Sacajaweau

The article says Russia contacted the CIA
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Maybe Russian didn’t get the memo that DHS under the hands on day to day leadership of J Napolitano is the ‘clearing house’ for any such data.

Remember in the Metro DC area few years back that a plane (Air Florida) crashed in the Potomac and the big ‘uproar’ was that the area jurisdictions not only couldn’t communicate, different orgs in particular Counties couldn’t ‘talk’ to each other.
Big study, gazillions spent and the ‘ANSWER’ was “Put them all on one Emergency Frequency.

If not mistaken on 9/11/01 one of the ‘problems’ was the lack of communication between the jurisdictions and not all agencies in each county could communicate.

I am probably NOT mistaken if I venture to guess that another gazillion or so bucks was spent to ‘study’ the problem.

Don’t see why I bring this up, they “ONLY” had 20 years to get close to ‘resolving the problem’.


49 posted on 04/27/2013 4:42:50 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --I turn 75 next year- but remember, that's only 24 Celsius. (TKS R. Reagan))
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To: bunster

I’ve been waiting 30 minutes for someone to post the Michigan plant explosion. Heard it on FNC.


50 posted on 04/27/2013 4:45:41 PM PDT by txhurl
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