Skip to comments.Phone Calls Discussing Jihad Prompted Russian Warning on Tsarnaev
Posted on 04/28/2013 5:03:44 AM PDT by reaganaut1
The Russian warning to the United States government in 2011 about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of two brothers accused in the Boston Marathon bombing on April 15, was based on two intercepted telephone calls discussing jihad, both involving his mother, a law enforcement official said on Saturday.
The Russian authorities informed the F.B.I. in March 2011 that Mr. Tsarnaev, an ethnic Chechen who had lived in the United States for about a decade, had changed drastically, had adopted extremist views and planned to travel to Russia to meet with underground groups. The F.B.I. sent agents to interview Mr. Tsarnaev and his parents and found no evidence of any crime, but the Russians re-sent the same information to the C.I.A. in September 2011.
Despite repeated requests for additional information about what was behind the warning, Russian officials never explained the basis for their concern until after the Boston bombing, which killed three people and wounded more than 260. Only in recent days did the Russian authorities say that the intercepted phone calls had prompted their messages to the United States government, said the official, who would speak about the continuing investigation only on condition of anonymity.
The intercepted calls were first reported by The Associated Press on Saturday. Both calls involved Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, the mother of Tamerlan and his younger brother, Dzhokhar. The authorities believe that the brothers set off two homemade bombs at the marathons finish line. Tamerlan, 26, died after being shot by the police and run over with a vehicle driven by his fleeing brother; Dzhokhar, 19, was shot but is recovering in a prison hospital.
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The wheels on the bus go round and round, not sure when the stop which director will be stuck on the bottom. I do notice that DHS never seems to be mentioned as screwing up.
Must have been the same investigators that were repeatedly tipped off about Bernie Madoff!!!
Boston Bombing Ping!
Haven't seen anything from our CIA.
Is that the same CIA associated with Benghazi?? :-)
Robert S. Mueller III,FBI director, was a GWB appointment.
President Obama asked Congress to allow Mr. Mueller to stay on at the bureau, arguing that his national security team needed continuity, even though his 10 yr. term had expired.
Boston terror suspects uncle was married to CIA officer’s daughter and even shared a home with the agent
This appears to be even worse than Benghazi.
What a tangled mess!! Thank you for posting info. Deserves a thread of it’s on IMHO.
I’ll say it. The government is actively involved in trading American lives for cooperation in the spread of the Muslim caliphate.
There. It’s now out there. Discuss freely.
Apparently, the Patriot Acts I & II, are working well. Except for the fact, that not ONE, unpatriot has ever been stopped, snagged or caught. Even if they had been, how would anyone know? No FOIA requests honored, and no actual/factual records have ever been released. Not one.
Ain’t it grand to have relatives in the CIA!
March 2002 - T parents and White cap immigrate to US
July 19, 2003 Big T, age 16, finally joins parents in US
Sept 2006 to 2008 Big T attends community college part time
2007 - Big T gets legal permanent residency (at some point mama gets US naturalization)
2008 mama says Big T gets religion
2009 Big T and uncle have falling out. Big T calls uncle an infidel. Big T quit work and college. Uncle says Big T getting radicalized at Cambridge mosque. Uncles ex-wife is daughter of high ranking CIA officer Fuller.
2009 Katherine converts to islam
April 2009 - Big T’s wrestling magazine article. Wants to represent US in Olympics and become naturalized US citizen although he doesnt have any friends and doesnt understand Americans
May 2009 Big T arrested for beating girlfriend
2010 Big Ts domestic abuse case dismissed
2010 boxing club owner meets Big T who dressed like he was John Travolta Saturday Night Fever on the runway
June 21, 2010 Big T license to marry Katherine and they have a daughter.
2010 - Russia begins to notice radical change in Big T so how much time has he spent in Russia?
2009 - Big T forcing mama to wear hijabs, etc. and forces family members to quit drinking, smoking, partying in accordance of islam. Or mama became more Islamic on her own. Papa has concerns over mamas transformation.
2011 aunt reports Big T is praying five times daily
2011 parents divorce and papa moves back to Russia
March 2011 - Russia intercepts calls between mama and both brothers and sends warning to FBI. Mama also on phone with another person on FBI list
April 2011 or June 2011 - FBI closes file on Big T and mama
June 2011 - White cap graduates from high school
Sept 2011 - Russia sends second warning, this time to CIA. At some point, US officials meet with family at their home and Big T is defiant to them.
Sept 2011 to June 2012 - White cap gets failing grades in college
Sept 11, 2012 Big Ts best friend and two other Jewish men were murdered throats slit, marijuana and money scattered over bodies. Suspicion is now on Big T
Oct 2011 - CIA puts mama on terrorist list
Jan 12, 2012 - Big T goes to Russia and papa claims he was with him the whole time
June 2012 - Mama arrested for shoplifting
July 17, 2012 - Big T returns to US
Aug 2012 Big T creates Youtube terrorist videos showing Imarat Kavkaz militant Islamic group from Caucasus and Abu Dujana, a jihadist leader
Sept 5, 2012 Big T applies for US citizenship but was investigated
Sept 11, 2012 - White cap gets US citizenship
November 2012 - Mama in Russia
Nov 2012 Big T rants in mosque
Nov 2012 Big T rants at muslim shopkeeper who advertised Thanksgiving turkeys
Jan 18, 2013 Big T rants again in mosque and is asked to leave
Feb 6, 2013 Big T purchases fireworks
The more information that comes out, the more my suspicions that they wanted this to happen and did everything not to get in the way is confirmed just like Benghazi.
The DHS and the intelligence agencies are beyond incompetent. This is a willful negligence that cannot be explained merely by the worship of PC.
The Leftists are in cohouts with the radical Islamists and the idea is to destroy their common enemy, conservatives, capitalists, constitutionalists, Christians.
Michelle Bachman is right, the government has been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood and associated groups, or perhaps more correctly, invited by the administration to destroy the US & Western civilization.
>>Good grief....And we knew nothing...??????????
Fuller is one of the GS LIFER talking heads at RAND who’ve been peddling the “It’s a religion of peas” koolaid.
We should have known something. the crazy mother’s name should have rung some bells especially when she was recorded in a phone call discussing jihad with an ‘unrelated’ person the FBI was investing at the time.
Plus, we now know she was on the watch list....wth??
“One call was between Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his mother; the other was between Ms. Tsarnaeva and another person in Russia who is under F.B.I. investigation in an unrelated matter. The calls mentioned jihad a central concept in Islam that sometimes can mean holy war but no specific attack plans, the official said.”
So they do nothing and close investigation....(shaking head)
Does this guy know anything about intelligence? Such questions may or may not compromise sources, so they are not asked in a demanding way by competent professionals of peer agencies.
Police Say The Naked Man Arrested In Boston Was Not Tamerlan Tsarnaev
Both his nutty parents and his straight up Uncle say they are 100% certain this video is Tamerlan. Look at any of the pictures we have of Tamerlan, we can all agree that his most significant feature is his nose. Now, look at the crystall clear video images. This naked man is obviously Tamerlan beyond any reasonable doubt.
On Thursday night while police were hunting in Watertown, Mass. for bombing suspects Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, at one point they arrested a naked man who looks a lot like Tamerlan.
Police say the naked man is not Tamerlan, despite various conspiracy theories going around the Internet.
According to the official account, Tamerlan died after a shootout with cops, riddled with bullets and shrapnel before being run over by his brother who was fleeing the scene in an SUV.
Take a look: I dare you!
The Watertown police department got back to us via email just to say that the naked man was not Tamerlan Tsarnaev (pictured on right and in high-res here).
The shootout with the Tsarnaev brothers occurred on Laurel Street. The journalist interviewed in this video describes naked man’s capture near Nichols and Dexter, literally down the street from the shootout.
Naked man was apparently stripped, questioned, clothed, questioned some more, and reportedly let go. It’s likely police stripped him because they were under citywide bomb threat and wanted to make sure he didn’t have a suicide vest, but the police did not comment on that.
Needless to say, Business Insider is interested to hear Naked Man’s personal story send any tips to firstname.lastname@example.org.
Have any of you viewed the CNN footage of a Crisis Actor that was interviewed at the bombing and four days later as a witness to the Watertown shootout. If you’re still with me, I would be happy to PM you.