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Boston terror suspects uncle was married to CIA officer's daughter and even shared a home...
Daily Mail ^ | 27 April 2013 | Katie Davies

Posted on 04/28/2013 6:56:32 AM PDT by maggief

An uncle of the Boston bombers was previously married to a CIA officer's daughter for three years, it emerged today.

Ruslan Tsarni, who publicly denounced his two terrorist nephews' actions and called them 'Losers', even lived with his father-in-law agent Graham Fuller in his Maryland home for a year.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: boston; bostonbombing; chechen; chechnya; cia; grahamfuller; marathon; ruslantsarni; tsarnaev
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Full title: Boston terror suspects uncle was married to CIA officer's daughter and even shared a home with the agent
1 posted on 04/28/2013 6:56:32 AM PDT by maggief
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To: penelopesire

Ping


2 posted on 04/28/2013 6:57:08 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Here’s the problem....The CIA dude should possess “gut” instincts.


3 posted on 04/28/2013 6:59:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: maggief

Interesting thanks


4 posted on 04/28/2013 7:01:41 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: maggief
The more information that comes out about these people, the more it resembles the story line of The Americans on FX.

The general public will probably never know, but there is likely much more to this story and the 'family' and the web of deception.
5 posted on 04/28/2013 7:02:16 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: maggief; OwenKellogg; bunster; thouworm; onyx; nutmeg; AllAmericanGirl44; ConservativeMan55; ...

Boston Bombing Ping!!

(Thanks maggief)


6 posted on 04/28/2013 7:06:04 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: maggief

“Graham E. Fuller is a former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA, a former senior political scientist at RAND, and a current adjunct professor of history at Simon Fraser University. He is the author of numerous books about the Middle East, including The Future of Political Islam. He has lived and worked in the Muslim world for nearly two decades.”

And yet...


7 posted on 04/28/2013 7:06:48 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TomGuy
[...resembles the story line of The Americans on FX.] [ photo tumblr_md5ejgkiFl1qgyc5zo1_500_zpsf8771e8f.jpg
8 posted on 04/28/2013 7:09:01 AM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: maggief

As far as we know the uncle never hurt anyone and
is the only one to denounce the two.


9 posted on 04/28/2013 7:10:38 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: maggief

He let the agency 26 years ago. The uncle lived in the house 1 year, and after he retired 4 years earlier.

Interesting story, but hardly relevant.


10 posted on 04/28/2013 7:11:59 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: RetSignman

You’ve nailed it, the USA/Constitution are under attack from many directions, internally, externally, by many factions all working for “hope and change” and destruction of freedom.


11 posted on 04/28/2013 7:13:45 AM PDT by izzatzo (NO MORE BUSHES!)
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To: maggief

Interesting tidbit from the article:

“FBI agents today said they had tracked down Misha and believed he had no link to the terror attacks.”

Any verification of this? Considering the source, here...


12 posted on 04/28/2013 7:16:07 AM PDT by GSD Lover
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To: maggief

“the current tensions that exist between the East and the West have geopolitical rather than religious origins and that these tensions “
http://www.amazon.com/World-Without-Islam-Graham-Fuller/dp/B009WJBDG0/ref=la_B001HOIL1I_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367157956&sr=1-1

Bullshyte. The religious element is self-evident to anyone with common sense.

http://www.amazon.com/Graham-E.-Fuller/e/B001HOIL1I

Quack, Waddle - The GS LIFER Koolaid drinker/peddler says:

“Proponents of liberal political Islam emphasize human rights and democracy, tolerance and cooperation.”
http://www.amazon.com/Future-Political-Islam-Graham-Fuller/dp/1403961360/ref=la_B001HOIL1I_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1367157956&sr=1-10

It’s a religion of peas.

NO SALE.


13 posted on 04/28/2013 7:16:15 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: HollyB

May or may not be relevant ... but nothing is adding up here.


14 posted on 04/28/2013 7:16:53 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

What I found of interest is his studies in Russian minorities, and then his daughter married one. So, there was a continued interest.


15 posted on 04/28/2013 7:31:57 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: maggief

My, my....how conveeeenient. Our so-called “national security” apparatus is laughable.

If you want to be secure, get your own weapons.


17 posted on 04/28/2013 7:38:58 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: KeyLargo

For goodness sakes, this is a country of those who left other countries. Immigrants have it good, real good.

And I agree with the author...America would have been better off without this family, not the other way around.


18 posted on 04/28/2013 7:40:47 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: maggief

Is somebody going to be indicted now for leaking this information about a CIA agent???


20 posted on 04/28/2013 7:48:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: KeyLargo

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/eric-holder-suspect-miranda-90709.html

Attorney General Eric Holder said on Saturday that “everything was done appropriately” in the questioning of the Boston Marathon bombings suspect.

“Well I mean, the decision to Mirandize him is one that…was totally consistent with the laws that we have,” Holder told CNN as he made his way into the White House Correspondents Dinner. “We had a two-day period…to question him under the public safety exception, so I think everything was done appropriately.”


21 posted on 04/28/2013 7:51:18 AM PDT by maggief
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To: HollyB

>>but hardly relevant.

Take a looks at Fuller’s bibliography. The guy’s one of the GS LIFER koolaid peddlers at RAND selling the “It’s a religion of peas meme”.

That’s very relevant considering the impact upon policy that talking-head fools like Fuller have evidently had.


22 posted on 04/28/2013 7:52:44 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Sacajaweau
Here’s the problem....The CIA dude should possess “gut” instincts.

My thoughts too - what a great cover for someone who means us ill...

23 posted on 04/28/2013 9:34:30 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: maggief

Sadly, he is correct yet so very wrong. They did legally give the FBI the full 48 hours to question him.

When this nest is cleaned out, somebody needs to introduce a new resolution regarding Miranda rights. The way it stands now, sux


24 posted on 04/28/2013 9:48:01 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: TArcher

Interesting. So, in other words, he was a sympathizer.

This looks like the 50’s with commie sympathizers. Same thing, different animal. Who ARE these people??


25 posted on 04/28/2013 9:48:51 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

>>Who ARE these people??

Examples of why Government Service should not be a profession?


26 posted on 04/28/2013 9:55:06 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: HollyB
Interesting story, but hardly relevant.

What I find interesting is the house in question is nothing exciting. Google maps shows it to be a simple ranch style that apparently was too small so the garage was enclosed. Wouldn't you expect a high ranking CIA official to live in a much nicer house?

27 posted on 04/28/2013 10:13:07 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: KeyLargo

We’ve heard from crazy mama, equally crazy aunt in Canada, angry uncle, papa, and a short note from the inlaws after they quickly put their house on the market. We’ve not heard a peep out of their two sisters or the wife.


28 posted on 04/28/2013 10:18:52 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: bgill

Perhaps 46 - 50 years ago, it was more of the norm. He retired 26 yrs ago. Salaries werent as high then, and people tended to live within their means


29 posted on 04/28/2013 11:02:35 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: maggief

I’m beginning to think I’m watching a spin-off series from the FX TV series, The Americans.


30 posted on 04/28/2013 11:25:30 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: maggief

Ah yes, the plot thickens.


31 posted on 04/28/2013 11:30:47 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: HollyB

Well 26 years ago was way before 9/11 so his expertise was not for front. . I could see the agency call him up on immediate need. Just like they do in the movies. :)


32 posted on 04/28/2013 11:38:33 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: maggief
Graham Fuller

Son of the very conservative 1950s literary critic Edmund Fuller.

33 posted on 04/28/2013 11:51:50 AM PDT by x
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
This looks like the 50’s with commie sympathizers. Same thing, different animal. Who ARE these people??

During the Cold War a lot of the people who went into Russian studies and then into the government had a great love for Russia, but hated Communism.

Fuller, who started out studying Russia, may have been of that sort and moved on to trying to work out the same relationship to the Middle East and Islamism.

At any event, I wouldn't automatically assume that he was an Alger Hiss type.

34 posted on 04/28/2013 12:01:40 PM PDT by x
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To: maggief; LucyT

http://www.grahamefuller.com/about/

http://www.grahamefuller.com/videos/


35 posted on 04/28/2013 12:40:08 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: x

I get your point, just not sure I agree with your analysis.
Nonetheless, there are far too many muzzies sympathizers in the upper ranks of our government. It skews their ability to be objective in regards to real threats. jmho


36 posted on 04/28/2013 12:45:54 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: freekitty

I agree with you, I saw his picture, her picture, and just couldn’t understand what she saw in his snakey hair self!


37 posted on 04/28/2013 12:47:51 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer, without him life would be much grimmer.....)
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To: Shimmer1

Must be drugs.


38 posted on 04/28/2013 1:10:36 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: HollyB
Interesting story, but hardly relevant.

Not necessarily true.

This guy is obviously well-connected. It's possible he used his influence and connections to assist the Tsarnaevs in getting asylum here.

39 posted on 04/28/2013 2:21:08 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

The problem is that the judge arrived and read him his “Miranda rights” after only 16 hours of questioning.

Why? Who sent her (the judge) and who wanted to shut up the terrorist?

Federal judges are legally superior to FBI agents, so there was no way they could have resisted and this actually wasn’t the fault of the now fabulously incompetent FBI.


40 posted on 04/28/2013 2:39:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: TArcher

Now I remember this guy. His book was going for $1.00 at the Dollar Tree. I skimmed through it, saw it was a bunch of p.c.b.s. and saved myself a dollar. Best dollar I ever saved.


41 posted on 04/28/2013 2:46:27 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (The GOP is the present version of 1940 France and it will only get worse.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Perhaps, but that is not in the article. Are you indicating he got the brothers uncle asylum 20 yrs ago so that his nephews could come over later and plot an attack when they grew up. Im a bit confused?


42 posted on 04/28/2013 3:12:28 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: maggief; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


43 posted on 04/28/2013 4:18:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: HollyB
Are you indicating he got the brothers uncle asylum 20 yrs ago so that his nephews could come over later and plot an attack when they grew up. Im a bit confused?

Sorry, I thought I was perfectly clear, but let me restate. I'm curious as to whether this guy used his connections and influence on behalf of the Tsarnaevs when they applied for refugee status - not implying he was involved in the plot.

44 posted on 04/28/2013 4:20:42 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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45 posted on 04/28/2013 4:20:50 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: maggief; scrabblehack; Gen.Blather

Answer to scrabblehack and Gen.blather from the other thread....

Scrabblehack,

They don’t like too close an association with “foreign nationals”.

Gen.blather,

Yes it WOULD have to be reported!

The posts for reference:

To: Gen.Blather

I’ve not worked for CIA....but can he keep his security clearance? At least the marriage would trigger an inquiry (or at least it used to).

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To: Gen.Blather

Also sharing a residence with someone has to be declared to the security office too (I’m talking DoD here but so far as I know CIA was stricter).

11 posted on Sun Apr 28 2013 12:37:03 GMT-0500 (CDT) by scrabblehack [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies | Report Abuse]


46 posted on 04/28/2013 4:25:24 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57; penelopesire; crosslink

bump


47 posted on 04/28/2013 4:38:39 PM PDT by maggief
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To: BlatherNaut

I think the question is CIA / Graham Fuller support for the Chechen rebels back during the Cold War and whether and to what extent our government’s ties with the rebels were maintained after the collapse of the USSR - whether for intelligence purposes or perhaps in the context of our support for the Georgians or for other reasons. And whether the Boston bombing is in any sense blowback from that, just as the rise of AQ was in some sense related to our support of the Afghan rebels. I certainly would not dismiss this as just a coincidence without taking a hard look at it.


48 posted on 04/28/2013 5:15:03 PM PDT by Stingray51
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To: maggief
Former CIA officer: ‘Absurd’ to link uncle of Boston suspects, Agency

Retired CIA officer Graham Fuller confirmed to Al-Monitor Saturday that his daughter was previously married to an uncle of the suspects in the Boston Marathon attacks, but called rumors of any links between the uncle and the Agency “absurd.”

49 posted on 04/28/2013 5:36:31 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: maggief

“the system worked” was what Big Sis would say.


50 posted on 04/28/2013 5:56:08 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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