Police eye second car in Watertown shootout after Boston bombing

NBC News ^ | April 27, 2013 | Jamie Novogrod and Tom Winter

[maggief]

Two cars, not one, appear to be at the center of the investigation into how the two brothers allegedly behind the Boston Marathon bombings carried out the fatal shooting of a police officer and the wounding of another during their final night rampage.

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After the Cambridge shooting, the suspects carjacked a Mercedes 350 SUV at gunpoint, according to a federal affidavit. Both suspects rode in the SUV to Watertown, the affidavit says.

However, photographs obtained by NBC News and eyewitness accounts given to NBC News producers indicate that both a green Honda and black Mercedes SUV were parked at the scene of the Watertown shooting. Several people who were near the scene that night said the Honda was positioned behind the Mercedes.

[penelopesire]

Boston Bombing Ping!

[maggief]

PING

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RXAjuzJMIXw

US Police in action. Shoot first, don’t ask questions later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3UT5lEQvh8

Watertown shooting shots fired boston area suffolk

[jjotto]

The only car Tamerlan owned at his death was a 1999 Honda CR-V, a small SUV.

[penelopesire]

How odd....I thought reports were that the bomber brothers ditched the Honda at another location while the hijacked victim of SUV was still being held hostage in Mercedes and before he escaped? Right? Am I wrong?

Something doesn’t sound right.... Both cars found together at scene of shoot out now?

[grumpygresh]

When NBC and the police say look over here, they want to divert your attention.

[null and void]

This just in, Chief Moose is looking for a white van...

[ConservativeStatement]

Maybe Governor Lil Barry will demand that his citizens stay in their houses while all autos are confiscated.

[jjotto]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/us/shot-at-boxing-title-denied-tamerlan-tsarnaev-reeled.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

...his brother had left for the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, returning home only on the occasional weekend, as he did recently after damaging his 1999 green Honda Civic by texting while driving...

[Uncle Chip]

The driver of the SUV should be able to clear it up.

[penelopesire]

Early reports about the father back in Russia were that the father worked as a mechanic at a garage in Cambridge(even though he was a lawyer in his home country before he came to America). There were also interviews with another mechanic that said the brothers were always bringing in cars to fix to his shop.

Me thinks someone should be looking into who owns that garage and is it the same one that bombers father use to work for before he left the states.

[Uncle Chip]

Danny described 90 harrowing minutes, first with the younger brother following in a second car, then with both brothers in the Mercedes, where they openly discussed driving to New York, though Danny could not make out if they were planning another attack.

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/25/carjack-victim-recounts-his-harrowing-night/BhQWGzarWee8MZ6KtMHJNN/story.html

[jjotto]

On further investigation, this is a completely bogus story. Police reenacted the shootout scene using the actual vehicles; the 1999 green Honda Civic that Dzhokar had access to, and the carjacked black Merecedes SUV. The story does not indicate investigators are in doubt about where the vehicles came from.

[Chode]

and the naked guy getting into the FBI car... what about him???

[jjotto]

The mechanic was Gilberto Junior of Junior’s Auto Body in Cambridge.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/04/24/dzhokhar_tsarnaev_junior_s_auto_body_boston_suspect_reportedly_sold_pot.html

[penelopesire]

Thanks!

[Paratrooper]

Both cars were at the shoot out, pictures were taken by a resident in house . Honda had the Coexist sticker. Speculation is brothers were loading items from Honda into SUV

[maggief]

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/04/24/4801551/biden-denounces-brothers-as-cowardly.html

Both brothers drove late-model Hondas, said Gilberto Junior, who owns a body shop a block away from their apartment. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev routinely recommended the shop to his friends who drove fancy cars, Junior said, but Dzhokhar was “just the passenger.”

[The Great RJ]

I still have trouble with the police reports that Lanza fired 154 bullets in less than five minutes..one bullet every two seconds.. with a semi automatic weapon changing magazines several times. I know next to nothing about firearms, but it would seem to me that this rate of fire would be more indicative of a fully automatic weapon. Can any AR-15 experts out there enlighten me on whether this rate of fire is possible with a semiautomatic weapon particularly in the hands of a mentally messed up teenager?

I could find this timeline more credible if the shooter had been a trained special forces operative or if he had been armed with a fully automatic weapon. The timeline becomes even more suspect considering that Lanza had to apparently shoot his way into the school door, move to several areas of the school to find victims and end his own life. Am I missing something or just need to rearrange my tinfoil hat?

[Paladin2]

This factoid has been presented before *(within a day or so).

Like many other factoids, it has never been adequately explained and put into a complete timeline.