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Army says no to more tanks, but Congress insists
Associated Presstitutes ^ | 04/28/2013 | RICHARD LARDNER

Posted on 04/28/2013 2:13:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Built to dominate the enemy in combat, the Army's hulking Abrams tank is proving equally hard to beat in a budget battle...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aemy; tanks
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To: warchild9

Sorry, but you sound incredibly petty and childlike, regardless of how you huff yourself up on the internet.

You should do more to explain to the world that large scale warfare is over and that man has moved beyond that, especially convince countries like China that war is over.

We would be in debt to you if you can bring world peace to man, and make future conflicts nothing but small operations with a few mercenaries and some push buttons.


41 posted on 04/28/2013 6:44:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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To: warchild9
You’ll learn this as you mature.

People who truly mature gain humility as they realize that events often do not turn out as they thought. Money has tremendous power, that is undeniably true. But people don't always do as they're told, and paymasters are often mislead by their own vanity. There is nothing new under the sun, and human nature has not changed.

42 posted on 04/28/2013 6:46:22 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine

Thank you. “People never change” is a lesson I try to teach my students concerning history, and why it repeats.


43 posted on 04/28/2013 6:48:11 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

GPS/laser guided bombs/rockets/missiles and anti-tank aircraft are much more efficient in doing the missions formerly done by tanks, which was primarily taking out other tanks.

These newer weapons are to tanks what aircraft carriers were to battleships.


44 posted on 04/28/2013 6:49:26 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: ansel12

War will forever be with us. It’s a sad part of being the killer ape known as “human.”

You know what the answer to state violence is? Capitalism. Wherever pure capitalism (not crony capitalism) is practiced, people spend their energy making money. Everybody wins, then.

/I sound petty because I’m trying to rattle your bars. When I intellectually slum with people like you, it entertains me.


45 posted on 04/28/2013 6:52:09 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9
Try reading more extensively and you’ll see... I have studied warfare for... I even have a PhD... I make my living... And you?... Stick to sports on television. That’s your speed.

Those are fine accomplishments, shared by many whose opinions vary. Thankfully, your hubris is less common. Most historians share a keener sense of their own limitations, knowing that their academic peers in past generations witnessed events take unforeseen turns.

46 posted on 04/28/2013 6:58:29 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: warchild9

No you sound petty because you got angry at posts 25 and 35, evidently your opinion that large wars are over for good, that historical warfare has ended because someone just recently invented money and commerce, is not to be challenged. Yeah, you are petty alright and weird to boot.


47 posted on 04/28/2013 7:06:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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To: warchild9

Africa and India don’t have the infrastructure and won’t anytime soon. China is the only country positioned to dominate manufacturing, despite some slippage in extremely low end products.

The bigger issue is that when the yuan becomes fully convertible, Shanghai and Hong Kong will challenge Wall Street.Finance is one area the U.S. still controls.

As an aside, Macao now does like 3 times the volume of Vegas. China is now the world’s largest auto market.

Yet the U.S. still thinks China just makes Happy Meals and is dependent on exports.


48 posted on 04/28/2013 7:21:06 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: warchild9
Let’s face it: the days of fleets of aircraft carriers and mass formations of tanks are over.

Until reality strikes again.
Carriers are independent airfields and are part of a strike group. They are utterly indefensible for power protection and air dominance. There is a reason why more countries are building aircraft carriers today than before. Within a decade, China and India will have fleet carriers and Britain and Brazil will return to having these.

and mass formations of tanks are over
Fools always fight the last war.

The need for great nation-states is dying and the rule of amoral corporations is rapidly rising.
Small wars are the norm until the a large war starts. Read history, not fantasy.

49 posted on 04/28/2013 8:00:43 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is why government spending will never decrease. Defense contractors (and others feeding at the taxpayer trough) have cleverly put facilities in most states, often in small towns, to make their projects impervious to cuts. As soon as the military says it doesn’t want something, the politicians from those areas insist that whatever it is, is vital.

Lockheed Martin, as one example, sells the government the most expensive, useless crap, and the politicians make sure the party never ends.


50 posted on 04/28/2013 8:59:52 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: warchild9
Liked the “Shadowrun” version more.

Funny thing is the use of mercs is a sign of weakness and of coming upheaval. Once the State looses control of the monopoly of violence, it typically falls.

51 posted on 04/29/2013 11:37:10 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Hodar
Tanks, jets, and attack helicopters all need a large amount of support to function. When things fall apart, the infrastructure to maintain them goes with it.
52 posted on 04/29/2013 11:40:14 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: warchild9
We are on the descent. Have been since the early 70’s.

Think about that. The majority of people have never lived in US that was on the way up.

The choice we have now is to either retrench, or over extend. That means we have to let Europe, Israel, et all go their own way.

And we had better start looking to the south. South America will start moving against us soon.

53 posted on 04/29/2013 11:54:47 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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