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Tamerlan Tsarnaev: Was He Named After the Brutal Islamic Ruler Tamerlane?
PolicyMic ^ | 04/27/2013 | Alasdair Denvil

Posted on 04/28/2013 7:26:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The latest news on the Boston Marathon bombing is that two suspects have been identified: brothers Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26. Tamerlan has since died after a confrontation with police in Watertown, Mass., while Dzhokhar is still on the run.

Details are sketchy, but the general picture seems to be that the Tsarnaev family is from Chechnya, a republic in southern Russia (i.e., the Russian Caucasus). Since the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1991, Chechnya has had a bloody history involving attempts to gain independence from Russia, with subsequent Russian crackdowns and attacks by Chechen terrorists. The conflict has a religious edge to it, as Chechens are Muslim, making them a religious minority in Russia.

Assuming the Tsarnaev brothers are the perpetrators of the Boston Marathon bombing, was their act of terror motivated by Islam, as with the September 11 attacks? Were they, like al-Qaeda, aiming to revive an Islamic Caliphate to rule the world? You can almost hear the argument already: "One of them was named after a Muslim ruler: Tamerlane. The Tsarnaevs are terrorists, and Muslims, so they're seeking to establish Islam across the globe." (A caller in the second hour of the Rush Limbaugh show Friday noted the Tamerlane connection.)

But we should be careful about attributing motives for the bombing. At the same time, we should never let a crisis go to waste, if only because they're good opportunities to learn history. So, first, who was Tamerlane?

The name "Tamerlane" is based on a derisive epithet used by Persians, which translates to "Timur the Lame." Despite being hobbled by injuries sustained early in his life, Timur (1336-1405) rose quickly from what is now Uzbekistan to rule a huge empire stretching from Baghdad in the west to Delhi in the east. Timur fancied himself as being both an inheritor of the throne of the Mongolian conqueror Genghis Khan (c. 1162-1227) and a good candidate for Islamic Caliph. But Timur never had the credentials to officially hold either title, so he contented himself with being de facto ruler.

Timur is remembered as a brilliant military thinker who was ruthlessly brutal to his opponents. His conquests of Baghdad and Delhi were particularly bloody. He was also a patron of the arts (funny how often the two go together), and turned his capital city of Samarkand into a place of architectural innovation. European leaders were gleeful at Timur's successes against the Ottoman Empire, even as they feared that he would turn his armies on them, too. They needn't have worried, because Timur died as he was gathering together a campaign to invade China, which was in the early stages of the Ming Dynasty. His empire gradually fell apart after his death.

Many Hindus and Christians have a dim view of Timur, given his atrocities, but the same can be said about many Muslims. Timur's victims were often Muslims living in what is now Iran, Iraq, Turkey, and elsewhere. But the name "Tamerlane" (or variation of it) is nonetheless popular, particularly in Russia, Uzbekistan, and other parts of Central Asia. (Perhaps it became a favorite among people who didn't like the Ottoman Turks.)

Tamerlan Tsarnaev may share a name with Timur, but that could be all they share. Timur certainly wanted to craft a large empire with Islam as its religion. But Chechen rebels and terrorists, though they are frequently Muslims, typically don't have the same designs. They're separatists who want the Russian government out of Chechnya, not creators of a new Islamic world order.

That being said, it's still not clear what the motive of the Tsarnaev brothers was. Maybe they were Al-Qaeda-style jihadis. After all, it's not clear how bombing Boston helps the Chechen separatist movement (though it's not clear how the 2002 Moscow theater or 2004 Beslan school hostage incidents helped, either). And, certainly, some Chechen rebels likely are in agreement with Al-Qaeda, or at the very least work with them.

But there's also the possibility that the Tsarnaev brothers are terrorists with a simple separatist agenda. Or maybe they're just antisocial sociopaths looking for a reason to kill, using Russian bullying as a justification the same way Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold used school bullying as a reason to shoot up Columbine High School.

That would still make them terrorists and terrible people. But it wouldn't make them part of a larger plot to impose a religion on anyone. They would be terrorists who are Muslims, not Islamic terrorists.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; tamerlan; tamerlanbio; tamerlane; tamerlantsarnaev
Pictures of Tamerlane (TIMUR THE LAME ):



From The American Thinker

The cover art for my recent book "Sharia Versus Freedom -- The Legacy of Islamic Totalitarianism," reproduces a miniature painting from a sixteenth century manuscript of the Zafarnama by Sharaf al-Din Ali-Yazdi. The image was housed in the British Library and originally published/produced in Shiraz, Iran, 1552. It depicts soldiers filing before the Islamized Mongol conqueror Amir Timur-i-lang, or "Tamerlane," holding heads of their decapitated enemies which they used to build a tower shaped like the minaret of a mosque, in Baghdad (1401).

The upper inscription embedded within the painting reads,

How fate and destiny have cast awe in the minds of the "Tavaajis"! [king's messengers, and herein, more generally, "traitors"]

In an orderly and numerical fashion,

They made minarets with the heads of the wretched "Tavaajis"

As a lesson to the inhabitants of the world.

While the lower embedded inscription states,

So that no subordinate would dare to challenge superiors and no fox acts like a lion, and threatens the kings; Under the temptation of the demon pride

Three modern summary historical accounts of Tamerlane's 1401 ravages in Baghdad by E.G. Browne, Rene Grousset, and Jean Aubin, are quite uniform with regard to the salient details. Browne's summary, first published in 1920, maintains

Timur next turned his attention to Baghdad, the capital of the recalcitrant Sultan Ahmad Jalair [Ahmed Jelair], and, having taken it, made on June 20, 1401, a great massacre, in revenge for the many notable officers of his army who had perished in the siege. Each soldier was ordered to bring a head [Browne includes a note here, that states "According to Ibn Arabshah the number of Timur's soldiers on this occasion was 20,000, and each was ordered to bring two heads."], and in the words of Sharafuddin Ali Yazdi, "the market of retribution became so brisk that the broker of death sold at one price the old man of eighty and the child of eight, while the oven of wrath was so enkindled that it consumed in like manner the corporeal vestiture of the wealthy plutocrat and the wretched pauper." Having left Baghdad a smoking charnel house, Timur again turned his attention to the unfortunate Georgians....

Grousset's assessment, originally published in 1939, described the ravages of Timur's army once Baghdad had fallen, thusly:

The defenders had fought with the energy of despair, and Tamerlane's vengeance was merciless. Whereas seven years before he had treated Baghdad with some moderation, he now ordered a general massacre. Each soldier had to bring the head of an inhabitant, says Sharif ad-Din [Ali Yazdi]; two heads says Ibn Arabshah. Amid all the carnage, the literary-minded Tamerlane spared certain men of letters and even offered them coats of honor. Apart from these men, the entire population was slaughtered, and all buildings except mosques demolished. Ibn Arabshah estimates the number of victims at 90,000. July heat under the sky of Iraq soon bred epidemics from the heaped corpses and forced the victor to withdraw.


1 posted on 04/28/2013 7:26:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Who cares?

Put him in jail and find out to whom he was connected and stop the bombings.


2 posted on 04/28/2013 7:27:23 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

From Wikipedia:

Tamerlane envisioned the restoration of the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan. As a means of legitimating his conquests, Timur relied on Islamic symbols and language, referring to himself as the Sword of Islam and patronizing educational and religious institutions. He converted nearly all the Borjigin leaders to Islam during his lifetime.

His armies were inclusively multi-ethnic. During his lifetime Timur emerged as the most powerful ruler in the Muslim world after defeating the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, the emerging Ottoman Empire and the declining Sultanate of Delhi. Timur had also decisively defeated the Christian Knights Hospitaller at Smyrna, styling himself a Ghazi.

By the end of his reign Timur had also gained complete control over all the remnants of the Chagatai Khanate, Ilkhanate, Golden Horde and even attempted to restore the Yuan dynasty.

Timur’s armies were feared throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe, sizable parts of which were laid to ruin by his campaigns. Scholars estimate that his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population.

On the other hand, Timur is also recognized as a great patron of art and architecture, as he interacted with Muslim intellectuals such as Ibn Khaldun and Hafiz-i Abru.


3 posted on 04/28/2013 7:27:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: stanne

This theory was posted o radio in Boston the same day the pics were put out.

AS Hilly would say...”What difference does it make?” The Mother is not the only corrupt nut job in the gang!


4 posted on 04/28/2013 7:30:23 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: SeekAndFind
Is there any doubt? First thing I thought of when I heard the name.



"Riamh nár dhruid ó sbairn lann!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

5 posted on 04/28/2013 7:31:32 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Duh, yes he was named after Tamerlane. And his brother was named after Batman’s evil nemesis.


6 posted on 04/28/2013 7:31:36 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The sword of islam, might have as well named him Adolph.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur


7 posted on 04/28/2013 7:33:50 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Me too.

They are terrorists from the cradle.


8 posted on 04/28/2013 7:43:42 PM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: acapesket

No, Hillary and I are not saying anything from the same point, so, please don’t go there.


9 posted on 04/28/2013 7:45:54 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind; InABunkerUnderSF

InABunkerUnderSF posted this on a previous thread and I believe it to be true.

You could not be more correct. Zubeidat named her sons Tamerlan and Dzhokhar.

Tamerlan is named for Tamerlane or Timur The Lame. He was a 14th/15th century Islamic conqueror who practiced Jihad from Anatolia to Kashgar. He killed 100,000 Hindu captives when he took Deli and killed all but 60,000 Christian Armenians - whom he enslaved. In all, it’s estimated that Tamerlane killed about 17 million people. This is who she named her first born son after.

Dzhokhar is named for Dzhokhar Dudayev, first (and hopefully last) president of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Dudayev was a former Soviet Air Force (strategic bomber) general. He was given the Order of the Red Star and the Order of the Red Banner for dropping lots of bombs on Afghans and he refused to shut down the Estonian parliament and TV during the KGB coup in 1991, so he’s wasn’t always pure evil.

Dudayev declared full independence from Russia in 1993, the year Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was born. This triggered a bloody civil war that has gone on for 20 years now. He was “martyred” by a Russian laser guided missile while chatting on a satellite phone in 1996.

It’s pretty easy to see what the proud Tsarnaev family hoped their sons would become.

33 posted on Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:14:46 PM by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3013197/posts?page=33#33


10 posted on 04/28/2013 7:46:53 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is there a question? It seemed a given that he was. (Or named after some relative named after some relative who was, etc.)


11 posted on 04/28/2013 7:50:17 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: acapesket

This item was posted last week as a question to the immigration authorities as to why they would let him in.

Now it’s full bore into let’s find out all about these chaps and they’ll be on their way to having an Ozzy Osbourne sit com in 6 months time.

It is Nothing to do with Hillary’s saying what difference does it make that the ambassador’s dead, which comes from the point of we’re above the law and we are going to go on pretending to care and you are not going to get in our way,

Oh, never mind, if you don’t get the premise don’t but don’t join me up


12 posted on 04/28/2013 7:51:23 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course he was.


13 posted on 04/28/2013 7:54:47 PM PDT by expat2
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To: SeekAndFind

Michael Medved said last week that the Boston terrorist was indeed named after Tamerlane, and that Tamerlane was responsible for the mass murder of at least 17 million people, which was one-fifth of the world’s population at the time.


14 posted on 04/28/2013 7:55:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SeekAndFind

Tamerlane was also a Mongol ruler in the same area.


15 posted on 04/28/2013 8:24:07 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seek, I found this on the Telegraph web site. Please post it if you will, thanks!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/tom-parfitt/10024185/Boston-bombs-the-Canadian-boxer-and-the-terror-recruiter-who-led-Tsarnaev-on-path-to-jihad.html


16 posted on 04/28/2013 8:33:24 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: SeekAndFind

Was He Named After the Brutal Islamic Ruler Tamerlane?

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/Uh_Yeah.mp3


17 posted on 04/28/2013 8:37:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

And this:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/02/desire-to-fit-in-with-muslim-community-can-push-bitter-and-isolated-converts-to-jihad-experts/


18 posted on 04/28/2013 8:40:41 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Rebelbase

I was deployed to Uzbekistan 2003-04. “Timur” meaning iron is the most popular mens’ name. Local Uzbeks referred to “Timur the Lame” as one of their national heroes, he’s on their currency. Uzbek women told me their heroes were either poets or conquerors, and that Alexander the Great took an Uzbek wife after giving Uzbeks their national dish “plov” (rice, meat, & veggies, not bad).

So a Chechen jihadi is named Tamerlan.....paging Captain Obvious!!!!!


19 posted on 04/28/2013 9:08:05 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Was the author of the article named after the satanist Alistair Crowley?


20 posted on 04/28/2013 9:10:02 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: stanne

Sarcasm Stanne...sorry that you did not “get me”.


21 posted on 04/28/2013 9:16:05 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: SeekAndFind

>>>They’re separatists who want the Russian government out of Chechnya, not creators of a new Islamic world order.<<<

Liberal lies. Chechens were talking about Caliphate since the very beginning. They actually won their independence in First Chechen War and used it not to create any kind of stable government but to expand further into South Russia and Dagestan. In 1999 Dagestanis rebelled against Chechens and their Arab masters, federal government supported locals and it is how the Second War started.
IMHO, Chechen success in the first war was a precedent. It shown jihadis they can bite pieces from non-muslim nations and establish their rule.
I don’t think Kosovo was possible before 1996, muzzies in France and Britain had no guts to declare sharia zones in inner cities or said any crap on ‘islam will rule’ too.


22 posted on 04/28/2013 9:37:50 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: SeekAndFind

Now, they call him; Roasting in hell like Pork loin.


23 posted on 04/28/2013 9:40:36 PM PDT by STD (One day closer to street justice)
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To: SeekAndFind

You can’t get a Tamer-lane than after killing everyone.


24 posted on 04/28/2013 9:51:59 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You Must be Hated by Evil.)
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To: SeekAndFind
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25 posted on 04/28/2013 11:04:59 PM PDT by STD (One day closer to street justice)
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To: SeekAndFind

26 posted on 04/29/2013 12:23:04 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish; SeekAndFind
"They’re separatists who want the Russian government out of Chechnya, not creators of a new Islamic world order."

All this on the namesakes of not only their son Tamerlane, but also Dzhokhar was covered (where else but) on FreeRepublic - 10 days ago.

Note especially the highlighted sentence in the final paragraph of the following, regarding how, under the leadership of the living terrorist son's namesake, the 1st Chechen-Russian War was waged as a holy Islamic war.

On namesake Tamerlane (the Sword of Islam):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3009967/posts?page=10#10

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3009962/posts?page=63#63

On namesake Dzhokhar (Dudaev):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3009967/posts?page=24#24

"Before the fall of Grozny, {Dzhokhar} Dudaev abandoned the {Chechen} presidential palace, moved south with his forces and continued leading the war throughout 1995, reportedly from a missile silo close to the historic Chechen capital of Vedeno. He continued to insist that his forces would prevail after the conventional warfare had finished, and the Chechen guerrilla fighters continued to operate across the entire country picking off Russian units and demoralising their soldiers. A jihad was declared on Russia by the Dudaev-appointed Mufti of Ichkeria, Akhmad Kadyrov, and foreign volunteers began pouring into the republic, mostly from neighbouring North Caucasian Muslim republics such as Dagestan." (wikipedia: Tamerlane)


27 posted on 04/29/2013 4:08:12 AM PDT by drpix
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To: jazusamo
He was given the Order of the Red Star and the Order of the Red Banner for dropping lots of bombs on Afghans and he refused to shut down the Estonian parliament and TV during the KGB coup in 1991, so he’s wasn’t always pure evil.

What aspect of Dudayev's actions represented pure evil?

28 posted on 04/29/2013 4:25:50 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei; jazusamo

>>>He was given the Order of the Red Star and the Order of the Red Banner for dropping lots of bombs on Afghans and he refused to shut down the Estonian parliament and TV during the KGB coup in 1991, so he’s wasn’t always pure evil.

What aspect of Dudayev’s actions represented pure evil?<<<

Dudaev’s bombing campaign in Afghanistan could be defined as evil. It was of little military significance being mostly aimed against civilian population (it also angered people and helped jihadi recruitment).


29 posted on 04/29/2013 5:01:18 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
Dudaev’s bombing campaign in Afghanistan could be defined as evil. It was of little military significance being mostly aimed against civilian population (it also angered people and helped jihadi recruitment).

I'm gonna have to disagree. What helped jihadi recruitment was Pakistani funding preferences. Zia ul Haq took Saudi and American money and used it to fund only the most extreme Islamist anti-government forces. His successors continued this fine tradition, arguably right up to the present day.

It seems to me that Dudayev was a vanilla Soviet general who was at sea after the dissolution of the USSR, and decided to go into business for himself at the head of an independent country. While generally worthless as a political leader, both in the sense of unifying the country and running the economy, or handing it over to someone who knew how, he seems to have had the cleanest hands of all the post-Soviet Chechen leaders.

30 posted on 04/29/2013 5:36:52 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So did they misspell ‘Tamerlane’ when they named him?


31 posted on 04/29/2013 5:50:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Zhang Fei; cunning_fish
However debatable Dudaev's prior record was, that he later turned the 1st Chechen-Russian war into a Jihadi crusade is not debatable:

"A jihad was declared on Russia by the Dudaev-appointed Mufti of Ichkeria, Akhmad Kadyrov, and foreign {Jihadi} volunteers began pouring into the republic, mostly from neighbouring North Caucasian Muslim republics such as Dagestan." (From post #22.)

Naming your 2 sons Tamerlan & Dzhokhar is as coincidental as would have been naming them Vladimir & Josef, Fidel & Che, Adolf & Benito...

32 posted on 04/29/2013 6:16:09 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
Dudaev's death:
33 posted on 04/29/2013 6:31:14 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: drpix
However debatable Dudaev's prior record was, that he later turned the 1st Chechen-Russian war into a Jihadi crusade is not debatable:

"A jihad was declared on Russia by the Dudaev-appointed Mufti of Ichkeria, Akhmad Kadyrov, and foreign {Jihadi} volunteers began pouring into the republic, mostly from neighbouring North Caucasian Muslim republics such as Dagestan." (From post #22.)

Naming your 2 sons Tamerlan & Dzhokhar is as coincidental as would have been naming them Vladimir & Josef, Fidel & Che, Adolf & Benito...

While Dudayev did ask for help from Muslims around the world, I'd liken his request to the Byzantine Emperor's request for assistance from Western Christendom against the Muslim armies that were constantly on the verge of overrunning them. The military disparity between Russia and Chechnya is obviously far greater than that between Muslim forces and Byzantine forces.

As to the naming of one son after Tamerlane - the guy's not a Muslim hero - the Arabs hate his guts for destroying the last Arab dynasty to control the Middle East, and slaughtering so many Arabs. This is why you will never hear of an Arab with the name Tamerlane. My impression is that the guy was a major league Turkic hero - he was the guy who finally showed the world what Turks were made of, after getting pushed out of China, and being incorporated into various armies as lowly mercenaries and auxiliaries. For Turks, he was their Alexander, before the Ottomans came on the scene. By today's standards, he's obviously beyond the pale, but that was an era in which the almost universal penalty for resisting a siege was for the entire city's population to be put to the sword. When the Crusaders finally broke through Jerusalem's defenses, that's exactly what they did, and justifiably so, based on the practices prevalent at the time.

34 posted on 04/29/2013 6:52:21 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
1) The Byzantine Emperor ask for Christian help and got Christian crusaders. Dudaev, through his appointed Mufti called for Muslim help and he got Islamic Jihadis and officially an Islamic war.

2) As conqueror (by massacres & atrocities) of fellow Muslim rulers in the Middle East, Tamerlane is not hero of Arab (or Persia) Muslims. But after Central Asia was conquered in the name of and converted to Islam by none other than Tamerlane “The Sword of Islam", he made that area the center of his dynasty. When his Islamic Central Asia prospered (at the expense of other Islamic areas) he became a hero for the Islamized ethnic groups of that area, who profited from his rise.

35 posted on 04/29/2013 8:17:32 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Zhang Fei
Byzantine Emperor ask = Byzantine Emperor asked
36 posted on 04/29/2013 8:18:29 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
But after Central Asia was conquered in the name of and converted to Islam by none other than Tamerlane “The Sword of Islam", he made that area the center of his dynasty.

I have a small quibble with this account. As far as I know, the Arabs conquered Central Asia all the way to China back in the 8th century. At the Battle of Talas River in 751 AD, I believe the Arab commander won a Pyrrhic victory against an outnumbered Tang Dynasty counterpart that nonetheless determined the future of Central Asia as a Muslim rather than a Buddhist one.

37 posted on 04/29/2013 8:46:28 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: STD
Dear FRiends,

Below, Anderson Cooper Interviews a very brave Boston Bombing victim Heather Abbott.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCt7ABe-_a8&feature=youtu.be

We can't help feel for this attractive and very well turned out victim as she comes out of surgery to tell her brave story of survival.

However, a quick search of Hollywood actors and actresses who are available to perform in TV, movies etc, we find a professional actress advertising her trade. She's not the only crisis actor we found advertising their skills on Hollywood Amputees. Look at Heather's professional bio. below

http://www.amputeesinhollywood.com/Videos.html

The truth is a valuable commodity that our government is using to deceive us. Why are they boosting the terror in Boston through the use of actors & actresses? They don't seem to be trying to hide their involvement very well, might be a more important question?

Stay Safe,

Michael 

38 posted on 04/29/2013 1:58:05 PM PDT by STD (One day closer to street justice)
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To: SeekAndFind

I knew the origin of his name the first time I saw it.

Of course he’s named after a Mozelem butcher.


39 posted on 04/29/2013 5:59:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Zhang Fei
Despite the 8th century invasion of Central Asia you cite, the Islamic conversion of the region was a totally different thing. Here's an excerpt from wikipedia (Link) concerning the later Mongol 13th & 14th century invasions. Note that the Mongols only converted to Islam in the early 14th century, long after their military and demographic invasion & occupation.
William of Rubruck, the emissary of the Kingdom of France to Sartaq Khan (son of Batu) travelled to the Caucasus in 1253. He wrote that the Circassians (Circassians here does not refer to the Circassians proper, but rather from all North Caucasians from Anapa to Avaria, including Circassians, Ubykhs, Abazins, Ossetes, Ingush, Chechens and Avars) had never "bowed to Mongol rule", despite the fact that whole fifth of the Mongol armies were at that time devoted to the task of crushing Caucasian resistance once and for all....

Second Mongol Invasion

In order to avoid future conflicts with the Mongols and give the Dzurdzuks time to recover, the ruler of the Princedom of Simsir (also known by the shorter name of "Simsim"; it was a small Dzurdzuk-run feudal principality separate from Alania and Dzurdzuketia, located between the two rivers, known to the Mongols as Gayur Khan (though this probably was not what his own subjects called him), allied itself with the Golden Horde. To underline Simsim's loyalty to the Horde, Gayur even adopted Sunni Islam as a state religion, althoughthis move was purely symbolic (as the bulk of the Chechens were still pagan and those that were Muslim or Christian were highly syncretic in their practice).

And my idea that Tamerlane did the real conversion was also off base.
The Chechen feudal state of Simsim, after the First Mongol Invasion (which its monarchy somehow miraculously survived), allied itself not to Georgia, but to the Golden Horde,[5] and even nominally converted to Islam, when faced with the threat of invasion. This underlines the causes for the later conversion of the Chechens to Islam in the 16th to 19th centuries, in order to secure the sympathy of the Ottomon Empire and the rest of the Muslim world in their conflict with the Christian state of Russia. (Same link as above.)
But before this Tamerlane "The Sword of Islam" had in the late 14th century made peace with the Chechens. He gave them his sabre (which became a treasured cultural relic to them) and they grew to honor him to the point of erecting statues of him and not of any Ottoman leaders. ( Check google image search on "tamerlane statue chechnya" )
40 posted on 05/01/2013 3:54:19 AM PDT by drpix
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