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Why France’s gay marriage debate has started to look like a revolution
The Spectator (UK) ^ | 27 April 2013 | John Laughland

Posted on 04/28/2013 11:12:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Revolutions are often sparked by an unexpected shock to an already-weakened regime. As commentators in France remark not only on the crisis engulfing François Hollande’s government but also on the apparent death rattle of the country’s entire political system, it could be that his flagship policy of legalizing gay marriage—or rather, the gigantic public reaction against it, unique in Europe—will be the last straw that breaks the Fifth Republic’s back. …

(T)he deeper explanation for the strength of feeling lies in the fact that, in French law, marriage is indissociable from the right to start a family. There is currently no gay adoption in France and no access for gays or lesbians to medically-assisted procreation. These have been legalized to general indifference in Britain, but they are regarded as unacceptable by many in France and as an intolerable attack on the rights of the child. The marches against gay marriage are therefore really marches in favor of the traditional family—and in favor of that “normality” that Hollande promised to bring to the presidency, but which he has betrayed in favor of the interests of a tiny minority. …

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eussr; family; france; gayadoption; gaymarriage; homosexulagenda; marriage; protests; revolution; traditionalfamily

1 posted on 04/28/2013 11:12:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Robespierre now controls France


2 posted on 04/28/2013 11:15:44 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai

Vive la France!


3 posted on 04/28/2013 11:17:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Reading this article makes me proud for once to have French ancestry!


4 posted on 04/28/2013 11:35:37 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: Olog-hai
France, like the rest of Europe and much of the industrial world, is governed by one single political superclass which straddles not only nation-states but also left and right.

Yup.

5 posted on 04/28/2013 11:50:57 PM PDT by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives)
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To: TChad

France, like the rest of Europe and much of the industrial world, is governed by one single political superclass which straddles not only nation-states but also left and right.

Yup.


Exactly. Divide and conquer.


6 posted on 04/29/2013 12:15:47 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Olog-hai

I thought the French were sexually liberated. How disillusioning.


7 posted on 04/29/2013 12:17:34 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Olog-hai

Can you blame them?

Why should 2% of the population be able to FORCE the other 98% to change the things they believe in and the way they do things?

Why exactly?


8 posted on 04/29/2013 12:19:17 AM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: Olog-hai

Perhaps the Eldest Daughter of the Church is slowly awakening and may be preparing to repent - I pray so.

Regrettably, like most of the European Church, it has been served by weak or even subversive bishops.


9 posted on 04/29/2013 1:05:16 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: Olog-hai

France has its socialist and libertarian factions, but there’s always been a Catholic one often suppressed by civil authorities who insist on a “secular state.”


10 posted on 04/29/2013 1:40:36 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: Olog-hai

Funny how the Obama buttlicking media (who for YEARS extolled the virtues of French culture) aren’t COVERING the apparent anger in that nation over the forced celebration of sodomy.

I pray for a spiritual revival in France, though...her people are lost without Christ.


11 posted on 04/29/2013 2:18:57 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Olog-hai
Couldn't find dissociable in the dictionary.
12 posted on 04/29/2013 3:01:02 AM PDT by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: djf

I guess chanting we are the 98% wouldn’t do a thing huh? I do believe the numbers are changing a bit, based solely on my personal observation.


13 posted on 04/29/2013 3:24:39 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: LoveUSA

Found dissociable in the Oxford English dictionary.

1. The reverse of sociable, unsociable

2. That tends to separate


14 posted on 04/29/2013 3:29:27 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Nextrush

Ever go to a French Mass - particularly in Paris? So beautiful, so spiritual, so...everything.


15 posted on 04/29/2013 3:38:47 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Olog-hai
If the Fifth Republic falls, will Madame Guillotine make a come back? Perhaps President Hollande and his Muslim friends need to make her acquaintance.

It is difficult to understand why the French elected this awful socialist Hollande over Sarkozy. But, it is the French way.

Americans were stupid enough to give Barry Obonzo four more years to destroy the country, so why not the French voters giving Hollande seven years to destroy France?

16 posted on 04/29/2013 4:02:27 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Olog-hai

With Putin in Russia and the French citizens showing much more moral backbone than the sheeple in the USA, we will deserve the disaster that will come to America as a result of the Left’s attack on the traditional family.


17 posted on 04/29/2013 4:47:11 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Jim Robinson
This is a fight between two visions of the heritage of France .....

             Major John Villeneuve                                                                          pansy john f'ng kerry

18 posted on 04/29/2013 4:47:46 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: gleeaikin

An interest form of conservatism. They have long had the right to wives, mistresses and female lovers - but, by God, no man on the side. Or it is the Catholic ethos in a weakened form - as long as the sex could theoretically be procreative, it is moral.


19 posted on 04/29/2013 4:48:32 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Olog-hai

who would’ve thought the french would find their nerve before Americans

goes to show just how far we’ve fallen

although i’m happy for france as there could be hope for them... i’m even more saddened for America


20 posted on 04/29/2013 5:00:02 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Sad indeed.
The day is soon coming when John Roberts and/or Anthony Kennedy will impose fag “marriage” on the entire US.
My fear is that there will be nary a whimper in this once great country when it happens.


21 posted on 04/29/2013 5:16:59 AM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: djf

-——Why exactly?——

Queer rule is the current fad


22 posted on 04/29/2013 5:25:54 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Olog-hai

A French civil war ? To whom would they surrender?


23 posted on 04/29/2013 5:49:16 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: rhinohunter

Why would there be. The left openly pushes for it and the right is tripping over themselves to vote for whatever leftist the GOP runs.

That’s the reality. Too few of us left that care.And people that say I’m too negative need to disprove the above with facts or admit the truth of it.


24 posted on 04/29/2013 6:09:08 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Maybe a “French Spring” can be the start of a European rejection of the globalist elite who run Europe...

(Probably not; but at least one can hope...)


25 posted on 04/29/2013 6:15:13 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: CondorFlight

There has been a rejection. Just like what we see here.

Same result too. The govts just laugh and redouble their destructive policies.


26 posted on 04/29/2013 6:18:41 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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27 posted on 04/29/2013 6:29:24 AM PDT by narses
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To: Olog-hai
The French are a bunch of prissy prima donas, until they decide to stop being so.

Then they get rather, shall we say, effective at solving the problem.

28 posted on 04/29/2013 6:59:31 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: momincombatboots

I imagine the numbers are changing a bit, seeing how we are taking money from parents to pay for a homosexual agenda in the schools. Homosexuality has strong roots in child abuse.

the religion of lust minces on.


29 posted on 04/29/2013 7:00:11 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

You know why the new French navy has glass-bottomed boats?

So they can see the old French navy.

This never ceases to amuse me.


30 posted on 04/29/2013 7:34:21 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Olog-hai

I take back all the bad stuff I have been saying about France for the last 40 years.... well some of it at least :-)


31 posted on 04/29/2013 8:12:45 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Olog-hai

Perhaps through this challenge to basic decency, the hearts of the French may be reclaimed for Christ.


32 posted on 04/29/2013 9:05:50 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: djf

Doing it here also. With the help of 50% of the public. Saw an article that said 76% of American Jews APPROVE of gay marriage!! 76% of God’s chosen people. And, people wonder why He dispersed them in 135 AD. Unbelief. Unfaithfulness. Seems they just never learn. None of us ever learn it seems. Only few true believers seem to get it. The remnant of Israel and the remnant Church.


33 posted on 04/29/2013 9:07:07 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Well, there are more than just the Jews that were chosen by God (remember the lost ten Israelite tribes, and of course Levi and Benjamin who are considered Jews nowadays from being part of the Kingdom of Judah); but for 76 percent of the tribe of Judah in the USA (the tribe from whence David and Jesus were born) to be so liberal is quite shameful.


34 posted on 04/29/2013 9:10:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Resolute Conservative
Here's the one that always cracks me up:

Why do trees line the streets of Paris?

So the German's could march in the shade.

35 posted on 04/29/2013 9:34:23 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: SoFloFreeper

th French showing more balls than Americans, take note our side and talk radio and the likes of Hannity who can’t talk about conservative social issues because he doe snot want to piss off the likes of Beckel, Colmes and his other fellow elitist left wing pals and the establishment


36 posted on 04/29/2013 9:46:44 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Norm Lenhart

agree but if our side did mention conservative social issues and talk radio actually got some balls, take note Hannity then our side might wake the hell up and the trolls on here who lurk or who pretend they’re republican but more so liberaltarian and left wing can then puss off and join their pals at DU


37 posted on 04/29/2013 9:49:02 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: bert

“...Queer rule is the current fad....”

Liberalism is truly a chronic, non-curable, mental disease.


38 posted on 04/29/2013 9:50:28 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: JSDude1

The French will handle this in a “specifique” way bwaahaahaa


39 posted on 04/29/2013 10:23:03 AM PDT by swampthang77
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To: RetiredArmy

I’ve long observed that non-Israeli Jews, in general, seem to have a curious death wish. They tend to support pretty much whatever cause will bring about their destruction.


40 posted on 04/29/2013 12:40:03 PM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: Olog-hai; flaglady47; mickie
I may just start buying brie cheese again.

I quit long ago when Bill O'Bloviator told me to boycott France. Can't even remember why, LOL.

And some of my ancestors were Huguenots....oh, dear.

Leni

41 posted on 04/29/2013 12:51:08 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MeganC

In Matthew it is clear than 2/3ds of Jews will die in the Tribulation. That only about 1/3rd will survive. Those are the ones that flee to the mountains (to Petra, Jordan is what many scholars believe). That 1/3rd will probably come from orthodox Jews, who have belief in at least the Old Testament. Secular and atheist Jews will probably be the majority of that 2/3rds who perish. Since Israel has more Jews now than even America, then I suspect that the majority of those in America will be in the 2/3rds that perish. The poll said that only 18% disapproved. I suspect those are mostly orthodox.


42 posted on 04/29/2013 1:19:07 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Olog-hai

That would be an appropriate moment to exercise that French tradition of hanging their government on the Champs Elysee lanterns. Allons, enfants.


43 posted on 04/29/2013 5:55:05 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Olog-hai


God bless the brave citizens of France.

44 posted on 04/29/2013 5:58:52 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: siunevada
Oxford English

Thanks. That explains it.

The word's meaning was obvious from its construction. I just thought it was part of the new vocabulary where journalists make up their own words.

Again, thanks.

45 posted on 04/30/2013 2:56:47 AM PDT by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: MeganC
non-Israeli Jews, in general, seem to have a curious death wish.

I noticed this back in the 90's when there was a huge push for to give away Israeli land in exchange for peace.

Couln't believe the idiocy of my Jewish friends.

46 posted on 04/30/2013 3:02:13 AM PDT by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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