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Toomey says he won't take new shot at gun bill
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | April 28, 2013 | Jonathan Tamari and Craig R. McCoy

Posted on 04/29/2013 10:00:02 AM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON - Sen. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.) dismissed talk Friday that he might take a second run at passing new gun laws, even as a new poll found voters in the state giving him high marks for backing a bipartisan plan to expand background checks.

"My own view is very simple: The Senate has had its vote. We've seen the outcome of that vote. I am not aware of any reason to believe that if we had the vote again that we'd have a different outcome," Toomey said on a conference call.

He was responding to a question about a New York Times report that Sen. Joe Manchin (D., W. Va.) was working on tweaking the bill the two cosponsored with an eye toward another vote.

Their original plan to expand background checks to gun shows and online sales got 54 of the 60 Senate votes it needed to advance last week and has since been shelved.

Even though it fell short, Pennsylvania voters gave Toomey credit for what he did, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Friday.

He saw a four-point bump in his approval rating from last month, giving him a 48 percent rating among Pennsylvania voters, his highest ever; 30 percent disapproved of his job performance.

It's a "very modest increase, but it's a measurable increase," said G. Terry Madonna, a pollster at Franklin and Marshall College.

It's also consistent with what most political analysts predicted, since Pennsylvania voters overwhelmingly support expanded background checks.

More than half of voters surveyed - 54 percent (and 71 percent of Democrats) - said they thought more favorably of Toomey because of his compromise. Only 12 percent thought less favorably of him, the poll found.

But only 34 percent approved of Toomey's stand on guns, against 29 percent who disapproved.

The gap between those who approve of Toomey's specific views and those who think more highly of him seems to reflect a desire for compromise and bipartisanship, even when voters disagree with the final stand.

Manchin has said he wanted to keep working on the background-check plan, but since the night of the vote Toomey has consistently said he would return to the fiscal issues with which he has long been identified.

"Until we have such reason to believe that we'd have a different outcome, I think the issue is resolved by the Senate," Toomey said Friday. "I've turned my attention to the fiscal and economic matters that I've normally focused on."

Indeed, his conference call focused on bills approved this week to provide the budget flexibility to ease furloughs affecting air travel.

But Sen. Bob Casey (D., Pa.) said he hoped for a second try at the gun bills.

"There is more willingness to try again than I would have expected," he said Friday.

He said he hoped there would be a continued push not only for background checks, but also for controls on firearms magazines and assault rifles, both of which he supported.

"I just hope we don't limit it to background checks," he said.

Quinnipiac surveyed 1,235 registered voters from Sunday to Wedmesday. The poll has a margin of error of 2.8 percentage points.

Contact Jonathan Tamari at jtamari@phillynews.com or follow on Twitter @JonathanTamari. Read his blog, "Capitol Inq," at www.philly.com/CapitolInq.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment; toomey

1 posted on 04/29/2013 10:00:02 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Awwww.... c'mon Pat....
RELOAD DUDE!

/sarc

2 posted on 04/29/2013 10:01:36 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: neverdem

He doesn’t have time, he has to get his resume prepared.


3 posted on 04/29/2013 10:05:13 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: neverdem

I guess one set of grill marks on his arse is enough for him.


4 posted on 04/29/2013 10:06:04 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: neverdem

If he is getting “high marks” then the pollsters must be calling only Philadelphia and the Oakland-Shadyside section of Pittsburgh.


5 posted on 04/29/2013 10:06:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: neverdem

FUPT.


6 posted on 04/29/2013 10:06:26 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: neverdem

Who should we believe? These BS polls or the massive number of firearms being purchased by The People? /rhetorical


7 posted on 04/29/2013 10:07:30 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: neverdem

Now, wait a minute. Newsmax had a article (after Toomey’s vote/and stance) that was reporting Toomey was up in his poll numbers overall in his district as well as statewide polling; so this doesn’t add to this story. I believe Toomey has lost ground even from independents, democrats and republicans. Toomey has to be punished for his betrayal on the Second Amendment. As far as I am concerned as a voter, once they cave on marriage and right to own a firearm, betray the veterans; I would sell them out if I had the chance (if I were working in their offices). Toomey’s done to me because now he has become untrustworthy. Can you image as he matures into his role as senator.


8 posted on 04/29/2013 10:13:28 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

Only question is, who is going to get wiped-out by a wider margin in their next election? Toomey or Marco Rubio?


9 posted on 04/29/2013 10:15:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: neverdem
"..Their original plan to expand background checks to gun shows and online sales got 54 of the 60 Senate votes it needed to advance last week and has since been shelved.."

I can't for the life of me understand why they keep acting like there's no NICS/4473 for gun show and internet sales. Unless it's pure ignorance of the law, or intentional misrepresentation.
I don't know about elsewhere, but in NC I can sell to another individual w/o NICS and 4473. Both "collectors" and "dealers" are at gun shows. Collectors are individuals and the same rules apply as with any other individual.
In ANY OTHER SITUATION WHERE A DEALER IS INVOLVED, be it online or at a gun show, there's NICS and a 4473 involved.

Just makes my tin foil a l'il tighter in the end.. d:^)

10 posted on 04/29/2013 10:18:01 AM PDT by CopperTop
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To: neverdem

Quinnipiac and the Inky? Of course whatever push poll they publish shows Toomey’s support increasing because of this vote. What they don’t say (even assuming their poll figures aren’t the lies we know them to be) is that the majority of poll respondents who viewed Toomey more favorably because of this effort will never vote for him in an election. They’re leftists and will reliably support the most statist candidate available.


11 posted on 04/29/2013 10:18:25 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: neverdem

Toomey-Toomey, tisk-tisk...


12 posted on 04/29/2013 10:23:03 AM PDT by swampthang77
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To: Born Conservative; airborne; smoothsailing; Dr. Scarpetta; martin_fierro; Coop; Tribune7; ...
BANG! Call me a cynic, but I think the stupid party via Pat Toomey set the rats up for a major league flop. There were just too many rat senators claiming to be pro Second Amendment in states that voted for Romney in 2012 who are running for re-election in 2014 being asked to vote for a bill that would have done nothing to prevent any of the recent tragedies.

The rats are believing their own agitprop, i.e. agitation propaganda as it was called during the Cold War.

13 posted on 04/29/2013 10:26:06 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The political hammer has to come down on those two.

They have proved it was all about the status and job security; going along BS; nothing more. Rubio is another compassionate liberal republican it seems now. Toomey lied that he was conservative.

14 posted on 04/29/2013 10:31:12 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: neverdem

According to Toomey: “If it were done, then t’wert well it were done quickly”. PA agrees.


15 posted on 04/29/2013 10:33:43 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: neverdem

Toomey appears to have realized he doesn’t have a prayer of re-election if his base leaves him in droves.

Democrats who ‘think more highly of him’ still won’t vote for him. If he has learned that gun-grabbing comes at a heavy political cost, good for him. Maybe he won’t be so quick to limit our God-given rights in the future.


16 posted on 04/29/2013 10:35:44 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Senator Pat Toomey pondering his options after the recent Gun Control Legislation went down in flames.

17 posted on 04/29/2013 10:41:14 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: neverdem

His bump in “approval” came from increased name recognition. I doubt 48% of his voters can name both their senators.


18 posted on 04/29/2013 10:47:19 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: neverdem

“My own view is that if I even say ‘gun control’ one more time, I’ll be unemployed soon.”


19 posted on 04/29/2013 11:04:30 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: CopperTop

There are a few places where you can do a “private sale” on the internet. Things like adds on forums, ads in emagizines, etc.

Thing is I never buy or sell private unless I know the person, or have an FFL involved. Had a friend buy a “hot” gun at a gun show once, and he spent a lot of time and money trying to keep out of jail.


20 posted on 04/29/2013 11:05:14 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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...shouldn't have been holding hands with Manchin or the gun grabbers in the first place.
But you knew that already right?
Sorry I donated Pat.
Fooled me once...
21 posted on 04/29/2013 11:08:42 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: neverdem

What a swarmy character.


22 posted on 04/29/2013 11:10:08 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Toomey thinks he can get elected again three years from now and he will put on a big show to make himself look conservative before the April 2016 primary.


23 posted on 04/29/2013 1:54:16 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: neverdem
More than half of voters surveyed - 54 percent (and 71 percent of Democrats) - said they thought more favorably of Toomey because of his compromise. Only 12 percent thought less favorably of him, the poll found.

I am in the 12%, and Toomey knows it. Arlen Toomey actually thinks he can go after some that 71% of Democrats to get reelected. He sold his soul.

I can not understand how any Republican would be a co-sponsor with Chucky Schumer when the only othe co-sponsors are Manchin and Obama's butt buddy from IL, Mark Krik. That by itself shows how off base Toomey is.

By the way, I don't put much into this poll. There are 900k NRA members in PA, 1 million hunters, and a ton of bitter clingers. This poll must have focused on calling people in Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Scranton and Harrisburg. All the blue parts of the state where Toomey loses.

24 posted on 04/29/2013 2:31:30 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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