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Sowell: Is Thinking Obsolete?
Creators Syndicate ^ | April 30, 2013 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 04/29/2013 12:48:01 PM PDT by jazusamo

While it is not possible to answer all the e-mails and letters from readers, many are thought-provoking, whether those thoughts are positive or negative.

An e-mail from one young man simply asked for the sources of some facts about gun control that were mentioned in a recent column. It is good to check out the facts — especially if you check out the facts on both sides of an issue.

By contrast, another man simply denounced me because of what was said in that column. He did not ask for my sources but simply made contrary assertions, as if his assertions must be correct and therefore mine must be wrong.

He identified himself as a physician, and the claims that he made about guns were claims that had been made years ago in a medical journal — and thoroughly discredited since then. He might have learned that, if we had engaged in a back and forth discussion, but it was clear from his letter that his goal was not debate but denunciation. That is often the case these days.

It is always amazing how many serious issues are not discussed seriously, but instead simply generate assertions and counter-assertions. On television talk shows, people on opposite sides often just try to shout each other down.

There is a remarkable range of ways of seeming to argue without actually producing any coherent argument.

Decades of dumbed-down education no doubt have something to do with this, but there is more to it than that. Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination. Moreover, it is largely indoctrination based on the same set of underlying and unexamined assumptions among teachers and institutions.

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1 posted on 04/29/2013 12:48:01 PM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 04/29/2013 12:49:04 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

What is thinking?

What channel is it on?

Can I get it on You-Tube?


3 posted on 04/29/2013 12:49:08 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: jazusamo

The idiots in this country don’t have to think anymore. They’ve got the government and state-controlled “media” to do that for them and have a “smart phone” for backup.


4 posted on 04/29/2013 12:51:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

And a calculator to do all the math.


5 posted on 04/29/2013 12:52:22 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: jazusamo

Huh? What?

Sorry, wasn’t listening ...


6 posted on 04/29/2013 12:52:33 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jazusamo
"The Obsolete Man."
7 posted on 04/29/2013 12:52:46 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: jazusamo

” Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination. Moreover, it is largely indoctrination based on the same set of underlying and unexamined assumptions among teachers and institutions.”

You mean left wing teachers & institutions(colleges) are intellectually lazy ?

NAW!!


8 posted on 04/29/2013 12:55:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: jazusamo

I was once told that I got into trouble when I started thinking in the Army. Independent thought is counterproductive in the Collective.


9 posted on 04/29/2013 12:57:03 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Da Coyote

Yep, I believe that for many their only thinking is about when the next episode of American Idol or Duck Dynasty will be on.


10 posted on 04/29/2013 12:58:06 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Asking for facts is fine, but there comes a point when people who constantly ask this are really putting their own brain in the cupboard. There is intuitive knowledge that any inconclusive “studies” will never be able to support or refute.

The homo-Nazis are first on the list as an example.


11 posted on 04/29/2013 12:58:50 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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12 posted on 04/29/2013 12:59:44 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

I’ve got too much to think!


13 posted on 04/29/2013 12:59:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: jazusamo
Thomas Sowell, national treasure, and the devil incarnate for those who feel rather than think.
14 posted on 04/29/2013 1:02:22 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: jazusamo

We have had a couple of generations right now that have not had to face the punishment for not thinking. For example, it is easy to blithely call for a “gun free” society when you are not faced with starvation when the “rabbits don’t hop into your pot.” It is easy to attack oil when the alternative is to NOT have kerosene for your lamps. It is easy to deride big business after you already have electricity and indoor plumbing.

The poorest in our society “want” for nothing, therefore it is very EASY to exist and to NOT THINK. There is no negative consequence to NOT THINKING.


15 posted on 04/29/2013 1:05:38 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: jazusamo
Thanks for the ping.

This article reminds somewhat on today's John Ransom's article in Townhall.com

The Dishonorable Liberal Order of Regulatory Scientists

Where he writes

I got an email from a reader yesterday that went something like this: "Hey, the American Cancer Society says you're full of it on the link between breast cancer and abortion. Trust me I'm an expert and a scientist, and you're being less than honest. So do us all a favor and shut up and stick to finance."

To which I reply: "Hey, if you're an expert and scientist why are you citing a lobbying orginization like the American Cancer Society? Thanks for proving one of the points in the email/hate mail column."

16 posted on 04/29/2013 1:06:50 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Politicians no longer have to think. They pay a gaggle of low-information focus group trolls to tell them what will get them reelected.


17 posted on 04/29/2013 1:09:05 PM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

FlingWingFlyer ~:”.. The idiots in this country don’t have to think anymore. “

With the Libturd media , it’s all about emotion and knee-jerk reaction, and not about thinking and logic .
Look at the president’s budget for example .


18 posted on 04/29/2013 1:09:06 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Political correctness is tyranny with manners." - Charlton Heston)
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To: jazusamo

LOVE Dr. Sowell. And as Mark Twain said “On the Damned Human Race”...’They don’t think, they THINK they think.’


19 posted on 04/29/2013 1:09:25 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: jazusamo
"Shut Up!", he explained.

This passes for debate, in so many circles. Alas, they're both liberal AND conservative, though I could argue that it's more prevalent on the Lib side.

20 posted on 04/29/2013 1:10:12 PM PDT by wbill
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To: CSM
Thank technology for much of this mind atrophy in young folks. My first job as a grocery cashier depended on common sense and keeping a constantly changing list of prices and categories updated in head. I had to be able to count back change, without a computer telling me. I had to remember produce codes, even had to learn WHAT all the produce was to identify it. Sales were constantly happening, and had to memorize the weekly newspaper ad sheet as well.

Today, you just have to be able to sweep your arm.

21 posted on 04/29/2013 1:11:02 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: jazusamo

Is thinking obsolete? It is at DU.


22 posted on 04/29/2013 1:12:17 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If guns kill people, how come no one dies at gun shows?)
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To: CSM

Discussing writing and creativity- I’ve actually had someone tell me that they couldn’t imagine anything unless a pro writer did it first! That- and that something I wrote had ‘too many words’!!
People are so stupid that they don’t realize how stupid they are. They are proud that they don’t think! I guess the brain is just there to keep their head from collapsing.


23 posted on 04/29/2013 1:12:25 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.Do what)
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To: jazusamo

The retards who don’t think, don’t watch DD.


24 posted on 04/29/2013 1:12:59 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Mind!)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks, Kas...That’s an excellent example of what Dr. Sowell mentioned, and a good piece by Ransom.


25 posted on 04/29/2013 1:14:55 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: wbill
Alas, they're both liberal AND conservative

Too true.

26 posted on 04/29/2013 1:16:17 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: jazusamo



27 posted on 04/29/2013 1:17:32 PM PDT by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: jazusamo

You’re welcome, jaz, I thought it was


28 posted on 04/29/2013 1:21:11 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Lady Jag

Yikes! :-)


29 posted on 04/29/2013 1:25:17 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: All

Mark Twain’s definition of an expert - “A damn fool 500 miles from home.”


30 posted on 04/29/2013 1:26:27 PM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Instead, a student can go all the way from elementary school to a Ph.D. without encountering any fundamentally different vision of the world from that of the prevailing political correctness

That would be Mrs WBill. Family is all dem. Her friends used to range from "liberal" to "DU won't take them because they're too radical".

I say "used to" because she's slowly divorcing herself from her old life. I'd guess that this is by choice - we're living a fairly happy middle class family life. All of her old, college (liberal) friends are still single and/or divorced, aging ungracefully, popping happy pills by the handful, all very deeply embittered people. Meanwhile, their biological clocks are all still ticking away. But I digress.....

She's in education, so all of her co-workers are Dem too. That's another story, in and of itself. Workplace Liberalism is a jealous god, and doesn't tolerate opposing viewpoints well.

When we first met, she said that she liked me because "I wasn't a bigot, like all of the other Republicans she knew."

We were at a party at her friends' place. Playing dumb, I asked, "Really? Who here is a bigot?" ................ No one. Turns out that I was the first Republican that she really (reallly, really) got to know well. That was step one.

Deprogramming has been a long and difficult process, but it's been eminently worthwhile. Paying taxes was the next step. First return we filed after we were married, she looked it over and said "!#!@##%$@$@#$@ !@##!@ @#$@#$#@$@$@ @#@. This is more than my college tuition!!!!!!!!".

Yep.

Kids were step three. If you've got 1/2 a brain (which she does), they're guaranteed to make you more conservative (which they have).

Now, if I can keep my Mother in Law from continually whispering foolishness in her ear, I'll be home free.

31 posted on 04/29/2013 1:26:56 PM PDT by wbill
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To: jazusamo
Is thinking obsolete?

No, but the choice to think or not to think is man's basic freedom of choice.And choosing to think is something that libtards are either unable or unwilling to do, which leaves them with subjectivism, emotionalism, and social metaphysics with its groupthink mentality.

32 posted on 04/29/2013 1:27:57 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: jazusamo

This is the age of the death of reason.


33 posted on 04/29/2013 1:39:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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34 posted on 04/29/2013 1:56:55 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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35 posted on 04/29/2013 2:04:50 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

It all came out of the hippie generation’s everyone’s opinion is equally important, even the opinions of the uninformed. So, using this theory, William F Buckley’s opinion is no better than Alec Baldwin.

I know this is an over simplification, but that is it in a nutshell All downhill from this premise.


36 posted on 04/29/2013 2:10:03 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: jazusamo

Well, we don’t teach it anymore.


37 posted on 04/29/2013 2:21:49 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: jazusamo

Every generation have their philosophy king....people who express the culture

This generation has Homer Simpson...


38 posted on 04/29/2013 2:31:38 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: Liberty Wins

“A damn fool 500 miles from home.”

This is Scriptural, and a corollary on the words of Jesus - “A prophet is without honor in his hometown”


39 posted on 04/29/2013 3:00:46 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: jazusamo

Is thinking obsolete? It is in Washington. In fact, it seems to be actively discouraged. Remember what Nancy Pelosi said about ObamaCare? She said Congress would have to pass the bill in order to learn what it is in the bill. Can you say “back-asswards”?


40 posted on 04/29/2013 3:19:36 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

You’ve got that right. It still lights my fire when I think what Pelosi said about passing obamacare, she’s a complete and total idiot, of course she’s not alone.


41 posted on 04/29/2013 3:33:39 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Public schools run by the government were the beginning of the end.


42 posted on 04/29/2013 4:08:12 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: jazusamo
He identified himself as a physician, and the claims that he made about guns were claims that had been made years ago in a medical journal — and thoroughly discredited since then. He might have learned that, if we had engaged in a back and forth discussion, but it was clear from his letter that his goal was not debate but denunciation. That is often the case these days.

Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination. Moreover, it is largely indoctrination based on the same set of underlying and unexamined assumptions among teachers and institutions.

It could be an unintended consequence of the women's rights movement.

Years ago women teachers were the same people who today run companies ... In the 'old days' those women were primarily relegated to 'teacher or nurse'... And they made great teachers and nurses. Of course it was unfair - and changes needed to be made... but there were some great teachers.

Today's teachers come from the same class as the people who used to sell shoes and work in factories. Union types - not the types usually associated with critical thinking...

43 posted on 04/29/2013 4:15:41 PM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: jazusamo
“It still lights my fire when I think what Pelosi said about passing obamacare, she’s a complete and total idiot”

Do not underestimate Pelosi. She may be many things but an idiot is not among them. She has not survived this long nor risen to her present position by being stupid. Think more along the lines of Vito Corleone.

44 posted on 04/29/2013 4:36:32 PM PDT by Polynikes (Yo Homie. That my briefcase?)
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To: Polynikes
I understand what you're saying and there's some truth to it.

John Murtha, for some reason, took Pelosi under his wing. Had it not been for that corrupt sorry excuse of a Congressman, Pelosi would never had made it to where she is, she learned from him. That's not to say she doesn't suffer from idiocy also.

45 posted on 04/29/2013 4:48:38 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Da Coyote

Is thinking on Facebook, LinkedIn, etc?


46 posted on 04/29/2013 4:56:45 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: mountainlion
I was once told that I got into trouble when I started thinking in the Army.

So, you're...

Skippy??

47 posted on 04/29/2013 6:09:15 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

So, you’re...

Skippy??

Don’t get it?


48 posted on 04/29/2013 6:23:21 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

The word “Skippy” is a hotlink...try it...it’s about Specialist Skippy and his Army experience. Your post that I quoted made me think of it. Guess you had to have been there or maybe I’ve been around the interwebz too long...


49 posted on 04/29/2013 7:16:12 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: fwdude

“I had to remember produce codes, even had to learn WHAT all the produce was to identify it.”

Haha! I was just at a store the other day and I bought a squash. The checker girl picks it up, looks confused and turns to me and says, “what is this?” I couldn’t help laughing at her as I answered that it is a butternut squash! Now, whenever I go there I make sure and identify all produce for her. As she picks it up, I tell her “orange, apple, potato, etc.”


50 posted on 04/30/2013 8:05:16 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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