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Elizabeth Colbert Busch Goes There On Argentine Affair In Debate With Mark Sanford
TPM ^ | 04/29/2013 | BENJY SARLIN

Posted on 04/29/2013 6:58:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

In their first and only debate ahead of a May 7 special election for the House, Mark Sanford (R) and Elizabeth Colbert Busch (D) sparred over budgets, guns, and — of course — the Republican candidate’s personal life.

Colbert Busch, a senior administrator at Clemson University, described herself as a “tough independent businesswoman” who understood budgets from her time in the private sector. Sanford, the former congressman and governor, positioned himself as a veteran lawmaker with a “twenty year track record of trying to do something about the way the government spends.”

Although South Carolina’s First District is considered GOP-leaning, the combination of a scandal-plagued candidate in Sanford and a well-funded opponent in Colbert Busch, whose brother Stephen Colbert has helped raise money nationally, has led analysts to give Democrats the edge in recent days. The National Republican Congressional Committee withdrew its financial support for Sanford this month after news broke that his ex-wife had accused him of trespassing at her home, with a court appearance scheduled for shortly after the election. Recently Sanford has demanded more debates then sparred with a cardboard cutout of Nancy Pelosi when Colbert Busch declined, a tactic associated far more with underdog candidates rather than with former governors who enjoy universal name recognition in their state.

As the NRCC’s move suggests, Sanford’s recent history is the main reason the race is so competitive. In 2009, he admitted to traveling to Argentina for an affair with his mistress without informing the public he was out of the state. The scandal sparked a state investigation that ended with Sanford paying a $74,000 ethics fine for misusing taxpayer dollars for personal use.

Colbert Busch brought the issue up sparingly but directly. At one point she questioned Sanford’s understanding of fiscal prudence, saying “it doesn’t mean you take that money we saved and leave the country for a personal purpose.”

Sanford brought the Argentina episode up at times himself, claiming “you don’t go through the experience I had back in 2009 without a greater level of humility.”

And he slickly rebutted a question from the debate moderator over whether he regretted his vote to impeach President Clinton over his affair with Monica Lewinsky given his own personal history.

“I would reverse the quesiton to you and I would say this: Do you think that President Clinton should be condemned for the rest of his life based on a mistake that he made in his life?” he said.

Sanford’s primary argument against Colbert Busch was that she would prove unwilling to buck national Democrats enough to satisfy the conservative district. Colbert Busch took care to distance herself from House Democratic leaders on a number of issues: She said “Obamacare is extremely problematic” and praised South Carolina’s “right to work” law restricting union activity. But she embraced a number of party line positions as well, including a recent Senate bill expanding background checks on guns, an immigration bill co-authored by South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham (R), and marriage equality.

“Nobody tells me what to do except the people of South Carolina’s First District,” she said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: affair; elizabethbusch; marksanford; southcarolina; stephencolbert

1 posted on 04/29/2013 6:58:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

mark Sanford can’t pass the character and fitness requirements


2 posted on 04/29/2013 7:04:33 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Sanford is a clown. Are the Republicans there insane?


3 posted on 04/29/2013 7:09:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Sanford is an assclown. But when the choice is between the assclown or the gun grabbing, amnesty pushing democrat there is no choice. I’d have to vote for the assclown.


4 posted on 04/29/2013 7:13:50 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind
And he slickly rebutted a question from the debate moderator over whether he regretted his vote to impeach President Clinton over his affair with Monica Lewinsky given his own personal history.

“I would reverse the quesiton to you and I would say this: Do you think that President Clinton should be condemned for the rest of his life based on a mistake that he made in his life?” he said.

Sanford reveals his own misunderstanding of Clinton's impeachment.

Clinton wasn't impeached for having an affair. He was impeached for committing perjury in a federal court.

Accordingly, his response wasn't "slick" -- it gave credibility to the questioner's premise and was inaccurate.

5 posted on 04/29/2013 7:18:52 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: yldstrk

the man is a cheat and a creep


6 posted on 04/29/2013 7:24:54 PM PDT by Psiman (PS I am not a crackpot)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate and despise Sanford; however, after watching the debate and the union thug democrats acting like hyenas, I don’t want that Cobert bitch anywhere near the U.S. capital.


7 posted on 04/29/2013 7:29:43 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, the only cure for the RINO virus.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“I would reverse the quesiton to you and I would say this: Do you think that President Clinton should be condemned for the rest of his life based on a mistake that he made in his life?” he said.

How about . . . YES!!!

8 posted on 04/29/2013 7:38:37 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

A “mistake” is forgetting to carry the one while doing addition......Sanford knowingly did that which he knew was wrong.


9 posted on 04/29/2013 7:40:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

10 posted on 04/29/2013 7:41:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SeekAndFind
To paraphrase Edwin Edwards campaign.

"Vote for the weasel. It's important."

11 posted on 04/29/2013 7:50:53 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: SeekAndFind
If I lived in South Carolina's First Congressional District, I would either sit this one out or vote for a write-in candidate. Character counts.
12 posted on 04/29/2013 8:02:23 PM PDT by Tupelo (The Government lies, then the media lies to cover up the government lies.)
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To: Tupelo

“.... Character counts.”
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What counts even more are the coming votes in the House of Representatives that either Sanford or Colbert-Busch will be casting. Votes on issues such as Amnesty for Illegal Aliens and gun control measures that could lead to registration and possible confiscation.

Mark Sanford will vote AGAINST such anti-American bills, Colbert-Busch will vote for them. I, for one, support folks who will resist the gradual decline of America—yes, even those who have had personal conduct issues in the past.

I hope the residents of this Congressional district will show good judgement next week. We are going to need Sanford’s vote—particularly since the vote for Amnesty will be so close.


13 posted on 04/29/2013 8:21:26 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Abbeville Conservative

“.....after watching the debate and the union thug democrats acting like hyenas, I don’t want that Cobert bitch anywhere near the U.S. capital.”
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LOL -— Nicely put.


14 posted on 04/29/2013 8:23:14 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

“I hope the residents of this Congressional district will show good judgement next week.

Good judgement is scarce;

—SC primary voters picking Sanford.

—District 1 general voters staying home, or voting minor party.


15 posted on 04/29/2013 8:33:53 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: House Atreides

Sanford has already been caught lying in a huge way, but you still want him to represent you in Washington.

Character means nothing as long as a Republican gets elected.

No wonder this nation is in it’s death spiral.


16 posted on 04/29/2013 8:41:52 PM PDT by Tupelo (The Government lies, then the media lies to cover up the government lies.)
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To: Tupelo

“....No wonder this nation is in it’s death spiral.”
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I, for one, am not a defeatist so I don’t accept that my country is a death spiral—although it is in danger of entering such a death spiral. The danger of going into the death spiral comes from folks making stupid and short-sighted decisions—based upon faulty premises.

A man who does 98 things right for the country and then does two things wrong in his personal life is damned to eternal condemnation. And that person MUST be defeated for those two wrongs and instead a person who WILL VOTE WRONG 75 out of 100 times on important issues allowed to go to Congress.

PS - Enjoy the coming Amnesty—it’s going to be a real eye opener for you and your progeny. It will be a wonderful inheritance and the sterling character Colbert-Busch will be one of its parents if it comes about.


17 posted on 04/29/2013 10:03:42 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Are you sure Sandford will be so dependable? His wife and those who voted for him as govenor thought he could be depended on then he left them for some skanky chick.


18 posted on 04/29/2013 10:43:45 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

On the other han, the opposing candidate is very dependable. Yes?


19 posted on 04/29/2013 10:52:08 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
I don’t want that Cobert bitch anywhere near the U.S. capital.

Absolutely. And that means I'd be voting for Sanford, unfortunately, were I residing in the district.


20 posted on 04/29/2013 10:58:56 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Its like the choice I have with Alexander and Corker, vote for 2 rino’s or not vote for them. My decison is not to vote for them.
Principles matter more than a Republican with questionable Conservative character.


21 posted on 04/30/2013 2:19:51 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

Are you sure Sandford will be so dependable? His wife and those who voted for him as govenor thought he could be depended on then he left them for some skanky chick.
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Well he does have a consistent voting record and his political stands have been consistently conservative—those are attributes for which his past voters have supported him and he has not disappointed them. So yes, I think he will be a dependable conservative.

His Nancy Pelosi supported opponent will NOT have a record anywhere near that. And I notice that absolutely nobody questions his opponent about her divorce or her private life and history.


22 posted on 04/30/2013 2:39:52 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: RginTN

Its like the choice I have with Alexander and Corker, vote for 2 rino’s or not vote for them. My decison is not to vote for them.
Principles matter more than a Republican with questionable Conservative character.
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Well, Harry Reid and Barack Obama love you baby—and they very much want you to spread that attitude. They too very much dislike “questionable Conservative character” (whatever that means)—particularly when the object of that dislike is consistently conservative and stands firmly in opposition to their agendas.


23 posted on 04/30/2013 2:45:20 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind
I live in the 1rst District of South Carolina. And for me, the question is simple, which candidate will best represent my views in Washington?

It is without a doubt, Mark Sanford.

I will not allow a personal need to punish him for past transgressions blind me to this fact. To not vote at all is functionally the same as a vote for Colbert-Busch.

I will not "cut off my nose to spite my face."

Call me unprincipled or whatever else you choose but when the votes are tallied in D.C. I am certain Mark Sanford will best represent my views on the vast majority of issues.
24 posted on 04/30/2013 5:01:16 AM PDT by BattleFlag (The right to self defense, one without which none others matter)
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To: BattleFlag

Hey logic. Awesome to see you here.


25 posted on 04/30/2013 5:05:40 AM PDT by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: jwalsh07

He can still step aside


26 posted on 04/30/2013 5:16:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Once again, the Stooooopid Party gets itself in a pickle...
Happens here in VA all the time....


27 posted on 04/30/2013 5:34:20 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: muawiyah
Sanford is a clown. Are the Republicans there insane?
"There" ??? ...who gave us McCain and Romney? The problem is the GOP, not some minor Demographic of it. I'm having to put a clothespin on my nose to vote AGAIN! The alternative is a union supporting Dem Thug. I'm so damed tired of voting AGAINST someone... Wouldn't it be inspirational to vote FOR someone once in a while? But don't blame us in SC...blame anyone who gives one thin dime to the Republican Party.
28 posted on 04/30/2013 5:41:19 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

You mean that rich guy? Runs casinos. He was allowed to pick our last candidate but all he knows are Democrats and Democrat techniques. Don’t tell me he knows Sanford or his girlfriend too?


29 posted on 04/30/2013 5:43:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: House Atreides
Well, Harry Reid and Barack Obama love you baby—and they very much want you to spread that attitude. They too very much dislike “questionable Conservative character” (whatever that means)—particularly when the object of that dislike is consistently conservative and stands firmly in opposition to their agendas.
Reid and Obama love it when Republicans vote for rino's who help their leftwing agenda.
30 posted on 04/30/2013 11:33:58 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: House Atreides
Well he does have a consistent voting record and his political stands have been consistently conservative—those are attributes for which his past voters have supported him and he has not disappointed them. So yes, I think he will be a dependable conservative.His Nancy Pelosi supported opponent will NOT have a record anywhere near that. And I notice that absolutely nobody questions his opponent about her divorce or her private life and history.
31 posted on 04/30/2013 11:45:27 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

“Reid and Obama love it when Republicans vote for rino’s who help their leftwing agenda.”
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Are you a “low information voter”? Do you even know what a RINO is? Do you have even the remotest understanding of the truth that Mark Sanford is NOT a RINO. His political views are like those of Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. So he’s a conservative who went through a “mid-life crisis” in his personal life.

I supported Bostic (a conservative with no personal “baggage”) in the run-off against Sanford. But since Sanford won that run-off, I’m supporting him in the general election against the Pelosi democrat.


32 posted on 04/30/2013 12:37:10 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

“....But don’t blame us in SC...blame anyone who gives one thin dime to the Republican Party.”
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I’m with you. The Republican Party and its entities will NEVER AGAIN get a single penny from me. I donate when I can afford it to individual campaigns and true conservative PACs (I’ve contributed to Jim DeMint’s Senate fund and the SarahPAC). That way I know that I won’t contribute toward the defeat of conservatives by the NRC.


33 posted on 04/30/2013 12:42:23 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: okie01
Clinton wasn't impeached for having an affair. He was impeached for committing perjury in a federal court.

To me, the worse crime was suborning perjury from Betty Currie, a federal employee who was his subordinate.

34 posted on 04/30/2013 12:44:56 PM PDT by kevkrom
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To: House Atreides

How quick you are to insult when you are losing the arguement.

Conservatives don’t do a vanishing act like Sandford did.
His vanishing act and actions later ruined his credibility.
You may have faith in his promises but so did his then wife and those who elected him govenor.


35 posted on 04/30/2013 2:11:33 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

Sorry, you are clearly hopeless so I won’t attempt to further rehabilitate your thinking. Feel free to support the democrat.


36 posted on 04/30/2013 2:17:54 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: muawiyah

That would be best for all concerned but politicians suffer from hubrisitis.


37 posted on 04/30/2013 2:34:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: House Atreides
Sorry, you are clearly hopeless so I won’t attempt to further rehabilitate your thinking. Feel free to support the democrat.
38 posted on 04/30/2013 4:12:57 PM PDT by RginTN
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