Skip to comments.Virginia Democrats renew call for Cuccinelli to resign
Posted on 04/30/2013 6:11:29 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
RICHMOND Virginia Democrats renewed their demands Monday that Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli resign after the Republican gubernatorial candidate belatedly disclosed about $13,000 worth of gifts on Friday that he claimed he forgot to note in four years worth of economic disclosure reports.
They were not as insistent, however, that their own nominee, Terry McAuliffe, match Mr. Cuccinellis complete income tax disclosure earlier this month with one of his own.
State Sen. A. Donald McEachin and Delegate David J. Toscano responded in a conference call to Mr. Cuccinellis revelation Friday afternoon that he failed to report five gifts from 2009 through last year. He spoke to a handful of mostly print journalists who had agreed not to broadcast any audio or video recordings of the conference and use them only to augment the accuracy of their own notes.
Three of them were from Jonnie Williams, the CEO of troubled nutritional supplement maker Star Scientific and a political contributor to Mr. Cuccinelli. They included a $3,000 vacation stay and $1,500 Thanksgiving retreat and dinner at Mr. Williams Smith Mountain Lake vacation home.
Mr. Cuccinelli also made a nominal revision to his 2011 filing to show that $6,711 worth of nutritional supplements he received that year came from Star Scientific, not from Mr. Williams as he had previously reported.
The annual reports listing their business interests, assets, honoraria and gifts are required of elected officials each January under Virginia law. A deliberate violation is a misdemeanor, but an unintended error or omission is not an offense.
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why do these jackasses continue to accept gifts? A bottle of pinot is okay but nothing more. pay your own freight. loser pols
It’s more tangled when you are friends with the person.
yeah? I don’t give my friends 13K “gifts”
Really - unless you’re a democRat, you’re not entitled as an elected politician to freesht!
Friends - even rich ones - do not typically buy such lavish gifts for one another.
If you let your friend stay at your beach house, that is $3000. If you invite him for Thanksgiving, that is $1500 (dinner and staying at the house).
It’s a little different from being gifted a Rolex.
Friends don’t have to account for the comparable cost of staying at each other’s houses.
I have a friend with a place at SML. When I stay there, big deal. If I was a politician, I would have to account for the cost of staying at a comparable location and report it.
oh bull, I highly doubt they are talking about being invited to a house party for Thanksgiving. And as a stinking Captain in the JAG we had a “briefing” about not accepting gifts. So, the ass should know to avoid the appearance of impropriety, if he wants to go to the beach he should pay his freight, that is what I am saying.
You should pay your freight at SML whatever the dickens that is, your friend has expenses that are fixed on that vaca house.
Vitamins???? You are worried about someone accepting Vitamins?
hell yeah I have gone on trips with friends and we tallied up and split the expenses evenly.
He was invited to Thanksgiving dinner IIRC. They have to report that. It’s not like he got a Rolex and a bag of diamonds.
just a second ago you said it was the same as being gifted a Rolex.
Look, if he is invited to someone’s house for Thanksgiving AND THAT PERSON DOESN’T BENEFIT BY GETTING A GOVERNMENT CONTRACT BLESSED BY HIM shorthly thereafter, no biggie.
sheesh, people, it’s not that hard to be honest
OUR CROOK IS NOT AS BAD AS THEIR COOK.
if the nation is to survive, we must insist upon HONOR in our leaders. At this time in our history, there is very little of that in local, county, state, or federal government. Very little.
Smith Mountain Lake is a big, man-made lake that extends across Franklin and Bedford counties in VA. It was formed when Appalachian Power Company built a dam for power generation. It's quite popular in these parts.
Did everyone miss this line in the story?
"They were not as insistent, however, that their own nominee, Terry McAuliffe, match Mr. Cuccinellis complete income tax disclosure earlier this month with one of his own."The only reason they demanded Cuccinelli's tax records was so they could go dumpster diving for dirt. Voila! They found something! And now they can sit back and let all the Conservatives chew Cuccinellis legs off, because WE demand HONOR. We demand PURITY. And the RATs sit back and laugh at us.
Same old story. Republican thinks he’s going to escape scrutiny by the dems’ oppo research machine.
I like Cuccinelli, but he’s the latest in a long line of GOPers who don’t understand the fact that the dems are far, far more effective in digging up dirt on opponents.
And I agree with the other posters here who say politicians need to cease with the gift-taking.
This doesn’t look very good and could possibly sink Cuccinelli. Is it too late for Bolling to replace him?
VA Republicans rarely win much of anything other than U.S. House seats anyway. I never get enthusiastic about some potential chance to win in VA. The GOP always seems to leave us flat there. But, MD, they can’t even find a serious candidate in statewide races.
Sad thing is, gift-giving notwithstanding, we’ll never be able to persuade good people to get into politics. Who the heck would want the anal exam they’ll get from the likes of DemocRAT dumpster divers? Much less what the Chicago crowd would put their family through?
All we’re going to get now is a kakocracy.
Bolling? Wouldn't surprise me if Bolling aided in the oppo research...
I agree, Bolling is a snake. But he's still our snake, and if Cuccinelli is mortally wounded we need to do what is necessary to keep TerryMac from being Governor.
It isn't fair and it is a double standard, of course, but it's the way it is in today's political world. The 'Rats, of course, get a pass. In fact, when a 'Rat breaks the law, it helps them. People think they're "cool", or "a playah".
A sad truth indeed. I'm sure the long knives are out for Ted Cruz as well, but in his case, the RATs can probably just sit back and let the McCains eat one of their own. :-/
Very few honorable people would even make it to the candidacy...
“just a second ago you said it was the same as being gifted a Rolex”
Oh and here is what I said
Its a little different from being gifted a Rolex.
He should tell the Dem’s:
“Let’s see your financial disclosures!”
kakistocracy (plural kakistocracies)
1.Government under the control of a nation's worst or least-qualified citizens
It’s the history of politics and politicians
So true, so true.
Clinton machine 2016 bump for later...
Virginia has pretty weak ethics rules. They rely simply on full disclosure. That way, the voters can decide whether they think you are being influenced or not.
There has been some push to change this, but neither party really cares to do so. And yes, even some of our “good” guys tend to be gifted a lot more than the ordinary folks.
I can’t imagine anybody would pay $6000 for supplements, so I guess this is a case where the company has excess stock and sends it out to people, and it just has a very high retail value, and that’s what you file.
Still, it would be nice if our politicians just said no.
And of course, in Virgina even a willful violation of this law is a misdemeanor, like running a red light. If it is inadvertent, there is no penalty at all for late disclosure.
The democrats have been working over time with the media trying to take down Ken. They’ve opened a second front with McDonnell, leaking information about an FBI probe that the liberal unethical Obama administration won’t “confirm or deny”, thus leaving it hanging. But again, if you don’t hang around with people giving you gifts, it is harder to launch unfounded accusations at you.
Spot on. What’s the incentive for a successful conservative to leave his comfortable six figure job/life and be dragged through the dirt, not only by the opposition, but by hyperpure conservatives who’ve never run for nor won a seat in their lives.
Utter goofs. If this is all they’ve got on Cucinelli he’s still a great candidate. Sometimes I suspect many of the purists are plants. Their entire goal is to whip up the base against a good candidate.
Why don’t they protest McAuliffe’s entire career as a crony capitalist and start a campaign to force him to open his records? He get’s a free pass. That’s dumb.
It’s the regular conservative circular firing squad at work. Grow up.
I strain myself to find any concern for this oversight. Senses when is it the government’s business to know of every private gift i receive.
You want to know it for politics well they know it now time to move to actual issues of concern for Virginia.
“If you let your friend stay at your beach house, that is $3000. If you invite him for Thanksgiving, that is $1500 (dinner and staying at the house).
Wow I’ve received some huge gifts in the last few years in that case...
“Our people have to learn a simple fact, and that is that they will be under scrutiny 24/7 by the ‘Rat dirt machine. So even an appearance of impropriety will get built up into a major scandal. Rule number one is, don’t accept “gifts”, don’t accept “free money” for personal use. Pay your way and earn what you get.”
I think we need to aproche this ongoing double standard in a different way. Face up to it head on and call them hypocrites.
When my hubs was in a position to get compted for a $1500/night hotel room in New Orleans for three nights, we had to say no thanks and pay for it ourselves because of concerns for future investigations... and we could ill-afford the expense.
Hubs was a surface Navy CAPT at the time...
We didn’t get the brief but knew enough not to go for the comp...
“We can certainly call them on their double standard and I agree we should. But we should also be aware that our failings will be magnified beyond proportion so we should seek to minimize those. If we dont hand our enemies a sword they will be less likely to chop us up.”
I agree, but do you really think there are prefect men out there let alone enough of them to fill our political needs?
Good for you. But if a houseguest of mine insisted on paying me for my hospitality I’d consider it an insult.
nope it was my friends ultra nice second house in Scottsdale and a bunch of us girls went and we kept track of all expenses and split them. no free lunch, “insult” is silly
What tacky friends you have. When I invite people to come and stay with me, I pay, when they invite me to go stay with them, they pay. I guess you can’t help your world view since you have such classless friends.
If we dont hand our enemies a sword they will be less likely to chop us up.It's more like the Dems hand conservatives the sword then watch as they chop up their own candidates.
folk off loser
Guess that’s wh I sleep at night, not padding my expense account not accepting “gifts” and other slushy activities