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Marco Rubio Tries To Convince Conservatives He Hasn't Been Duped
NPR ^ | 04/30/2013 | Greg Allen

Posted on 04/30/2013 8:12:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In the current debate over revamping the nation's immigration laws, there may be no elected official with more on the line than Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

Rubio, a Republican and Cuban-American from Miami, was elected to the Senate with strong support from the Tea Party and other conservatives. Rubio's challenge is to convince conservative skeptics that by supporting an immigration overhaul, he hasn't betrayed them.

Among other things, the Senate immigration bill tightens security on the borders and creates a pathway for immigrants who came to the country illegally to become citizens. Eight senators — four Democrats and four Republicans — helped write it. But since its introduction, Rubio is about the only one you see.

U.S. With Or Without Reform, Immigration Lawyers In Short Supply He has appeared on more than a dozen radio talk shows, targeting his pitch to the conservative Republicans who are some of the bill's most outspoken opponents.

When he appeared on talk radio's Laura Ingraham Show, the host asked: "Isn't it reasonable for these conservatives to assume that you've been duped here?"

"No, it isn't," Rubio responded, "because the fact of the matter is that this bill reflects principles that I issued back in January on immigration reform that were different from the principles the president had laid out. In essence, they've come to our position. We haven't gone to theirs."

One of the main concerns of radio talk show hosts, Tea Party activists and conservative bloggers is that Rubio and other Republicans are giving away too much on an issue they believe mostly helps Democrats.

After having Rubio on his show, conservative talk host Rush Limbaugh warned of the consequences. "There's no doubt there's a correlation: '86 amnesty and the Republican Party lost California," he said.

Limbaugh was talking about the 1986 immigration overhaul bill supported by Republicans, including President Ronald Reagan, that granted amnesty to nearly 3 million immigrants who had come to the United States illegally. Limbaugh and other conservatives say that amnesty helped spur more illegal immigration and created new Latino voters who helped put California in the Democratic column.

"There are legitimate fears that the same thing is going to happen to the country — that Republicans, conservatives, are going to end up just being outnumbered," Limbaugh said.

Rubio's office has dismissed fears that immigration reform will create a bonanza of new Democrats. Not all of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants will become citizens, they say, and an even smaller percentage will vote. And many Republicans say the right candidate with a history of doing well with Hispanics — like Rubio or former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, for example — could do a lot to turn it around.

But for Rubio and other Republicans pushing the immigration bill, the conservative backlash is the immediate problem, and they are doing what they can to tamp it down. Americans for a Conservative Direction is running ads in Florida, North Carolina, Texas and three other states.

YouTube One ad features footage of Rubio saying: "What we have in place today is de facto amnesty." A narrator adds: "Conservative leaders have a plan — the toughest enforcement measure in the history of the United States."

While the pushback from the right against immigration reform is worrying to some Republicans, it's not likely to derail the bill. Some of the best-funded conservative organizations — like Americans for Prosperity, the Club for Growth and FreedomWorks — are staying out of the fight. And in the grass roots, Tea Party groups are split over the issue.

Within the Republican Party, there are many like Miami Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart who says the push for an immigration overhaul just recognizes reality.

"I wish we didn't have a Democratically controlled Senate and a Democratic president. But that's the reality," Diaz-Balart says. "So if we're going to pass legislation to deal with these issues that everybody understands have to be fixed, it's going to have to be a bipartisan bill."

Earlier this month, a group of Tea Party supporters held a protest at Rubio's office in Palm Beach County to express their displeasure with his support for the bill. It was a potentially worrying incident for Rubio.

But one of the demonstration's leaders, Jim McGovern, says while they may disagree over this issue, he still likes Rubio.

"Short of his committing a mortal sin or something like that, in my eyes, I'm still going to be a Rubio supporter," McGovern says.

On the radio talk shows, Rubio has had to answer some tough questions but has been mostly treated well. In the meantime, Rubio is being praised for his leadership and political courage — qualities that could be important in any future runs, including for president.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 113th; americans4prosperity; amnesty; amnestypimps; conservatism; florida; immigration; kochbrothers; marcorubio; rino; rubio
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1 posted on 04/30/2013 8:12:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio is a hooteny glooteny fron-non and a wishy washy.


2 posted on 04/30/2013 8:14:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Hmmmm probably he’s right. He’s NOT being duped....he’s doing and choosing this in full knowledge.


3 posted on 04/30/2013 8:15:11 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Marco “McCain” Rubio?

Just another beltway insider trying to keep his place at the public trough.


4 posted on 04/30/2013 8:15:24 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: SeekAndFind

TRUST ME? Are you kidding? This is where we have been lead to now? It needs to be in the Bill not in someone’s ego.


5 posted on 04/30/2013 8:15:52 AM PDT by keving (We get the government we vote for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio is a fraud and a traitor. He should be shunned.


6 posted on 04/30/2013 8:15:55 AM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rubio's office has dismissed fears that immigration reform will create a bonanza of new Democrats.

Then Rubio's office is staffed by liars or fools.

7 posted on 04/30/2013 8:17:13 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Haven’t conservatives heard this same song with the names of “McCain” and “Romney” plugged in where “Rubio” is now? It’s the same “Lucy and the Football” scam we all recognize by now.


8 posted on 04/30/2013 8:17:21 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind

There are people being duped, but it’s Rubio duping Republicans and conservatives. It’s time he was run out of the party.


9 posted on 04/30/2013 8:18:23 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We beat back George W. Bush on this ... and he was in a lot stronger position than either Rubio or Obama.

Do it again.

SnakeDoc


10 posted on 04/30/2013 8:20:06 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: muawiyah
Rubio refuses to add language to the gang of 8 bill that would mandate cross checking voter registration roles with green card applicants to see if they have committed vote fraud either in the past or during their waiting period.

McCain thinks it would be seen as antagonistic.

11 posted on 04/30/2013 8:21:02 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Weeks ago, when he started on his amnesty/comprehensive immigration push, I thought he was just naive.

Since then, however, I think he is fully in on the ole shell game.

Previously, he was saying he would not support any bill that did not have border security as the #1 issue. Now, his plan is kicking that can down the road, under Homeland Security. If HSD doesn’t secure the border — IN 5 YEARS — the a special commission gets formed.

==

Ye ole shell game — 5 minutes after his bill gets passed, the border security part goes into the trash can.


12 posted on 04/30/2013 8:21:08 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Immigrants that side with conservatives don’t need amnesty.


13 posted on 04/30/2013 8:21:19 AM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: SeekAndFind
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14 posted on 04/30/2013 8:22:15 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dubious was always squishy on immigration

Latino primero


15 posted on 04/30/2013 8:24:37 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ya know, I'm open to the idea of "comprehensive immigration reform," complete with some kind of "amnesty" for those already here illegally.

IF it were combined with truly effective measures to cut way down on future illegal (and legal) immigration, prevent them working here illegally, encourage assimilation, etc. Something like a 20-year time-out.

Since any "immigration reform" that is passed will in reality be 125% implemented as far as the "reform" part goes and immediately not enforced as far as the restrictions go, I can't support any "reform" measures capable of passing Congress.

But it is a shame we can't have an honest debate on how many and who we wish to let into the country, and then enforce whatever laws we decide on as a result of that debate.

16 posted on 04/30/2013 8:25:19 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: BrewingFrog
Amish photo: Amish! amish.jpg Ja! I heard dat, shun der kliene schiess-blust.
17 posted on 04/30/2013 8:26:31 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: enduserindy

Perfect statement


18 posted on 04/30/2013 8:26:39 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe Senator Sessions


19 posted on 04/30/2013 8:34:06 AM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I'm happy if Obama and his looney tunes give me and my associates a QUOTA of about 100,000 out of the illegal alien amnesty ~ we'll bring in that many graduate engineers and holders of doctorates in scientific fields from India and Pakistan. They'll promise to pick lettuce for 2 years, and then they get 5 years to get jobs wherever they want.

At the end of that time they'll go back home.

20 posted on 04/30/2013 8:35:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind
Let me break it down.

The bill is amnesty for 11+ million Mexicans.

The Dems want it because they know it will give them 11+ million new voters on the welfare ticket that will put them in power for the rest of eternity.

Marco Rubio wants it because he thinks it will give him 11+ million new voters on the "Your skin color looks like my skin color" ticket and that will put him in power for the rest of his life.

Marco saw that skin color politics worked like magic for Obama, who is the lamest excuse for a black man I have ever seen. He is betting he can do the same. What he is forgetting is those same blacks that voted for Obama would never vote for Allen West. Why? Because WELFARE > skin color.

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. -Benjamin Franklin

21 posted on 04/30/2013 8:37:40 AM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: SeekAndFind
DUPE pa D DUPE DUPE DUPE, Marco Rubio is a sucker foo and a liar. He has obviously drank the DC kool-aid.
22 posted on 04/30/2013 8:41:54 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: enduserindy
Immigrants that side with conservatives don’t need amnesty. -enduserindy

That needs to be repeated!

23 posted on 04/30/2013 8:43:17 AM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is a Rubio?


24 posted on 04/30/2013 8:45:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

"Step right up, folks! It's the miraculous cure for America's economic woes! It's George Bush's John McCain's Mitt Romney's Marco Rubio's Immigration Elixir!"


25 posted on 04/30/2013 8:48:43 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: SeekAndFind

Marco Dupio?


26 posted on 04/30/2013 8:49:34 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: SeekAndFind; Liz; Jim Robinson; All

“”Short of his committing a mortal sin or something like that, in my eyes, I’m still going to be a Rubio supporter,” McGovern says. “

There seems to be a lot of that going around lately...INSANE! These men are POLITICIANS! They’ve done NOTHING to earn this kind of blind loyalty.

“A narrator adds: “Conservative leaders have a plan — the toughest enforcement measure in the history of the United States.” “

THESE are the kind of lies Rubio is spreading.....’Good conservative’ my butt.

This outfit is mentioned? Americans for a Conservative Direction
http://www.americansforaconservativedirection.com/
IT IS A RUBIO AMNESTY AD! RUN BY AMNESTY HACKS!
Our Board

Haley Barbour
Former Governor Haley Barbour served as the 62nd governor of Mississippi from 2004 to 2012 and served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee in the mid ‘90s.

Sally Bradshaw
Sally Bradshaw worked as former Florida Governor Jeb Bush’s Chief of Staff from 1999-2001, and served as a Co-Chair of the Republican National Committee’s Growth and Opportunity Project.

Joel Kaplan
Joel Kaplan is currently Vice President of US Public Policy at Facebook. Joel also served as Deputy Chief of Staff to former President George W. Bush.

Dan Senor
Dan Senor is former chief advisor to Representative Paul Ryan on the Romney-Ryan 2012 campaign

Rob Jesmer
Rob Jesmer worked as the former Executive Director at the National Republican Senatorial Committee from 2008 – 2012.

Something has to be done eventually about these ‘non profits’.


27 posted on 04/30/2013 8:50:19 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since you can’t convince me that you are not a progressive rubio... you damned sure are not going to convince me that you are capable of telling the truth about anything.

LLS


28 posted on 04/30/2013 8:54:33 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: keving

We have trusted Congress since 1965... FOUR TIMES... and FOUR TIMES THEY HAVE BROKEN THAT TRUST. FU rubio... you progressive liar!

LLS


29 posted on 04/30/2013 8:56:08 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota; PGalt; joseph20; All

“Then Rubio’s office is staffed by liars or fools. “

Meet Cesar Conda, Rubio’s chief of staff.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3007546/posts

Meet Grover Norquist, the gang of 8 spokesman, the man who is writing the majority of this bill for his Corporate bosses, who wrote the Bush amnesty.

Grover Norquist: A Republican who acts like a Democrat?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3013887/posts


30 posted on 04/30/2013 8:56:21 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SeekAndFind; mickie; seekthetruth; flaglady47
" 'Americans for a Conservative Direction' is running ads......"

What a nerve for these little known groups to be running ads and speaking for conservatives. They DON'T speak for me, no way, no how.

And "The Tea Party groups are split over the issue".....show me the source for this statement thrown out as fact. Two people interviewed doesn't make a poll. And how does an amorphous entity like the Tea Party get polled, anyhow!

Led by Rubio it appears that many faux conservatives and faux conservative groups are being set in motion to get a bill rammed through that will destroy the Republican party for the unforeseeable future, make it impossible to find well-paying employment, and skyrocket welfare and other entitlement payouts to impossible proportions.

Yep, we're being destroyed from within, alright....even from within so-called "conservative" groups who look on Rubio as an idol and are rallying around him to protect and promote him like he is the Simon Bolivar of North America.

Leni

31 posted on 04/30/2013 8:58:09 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Sherman Logan

I get tired of all the blather the politicians spew out - when the solution is clear:
1) SECURE THE BORDER

2) Announce that all illegal aliens must regester with immigration by a date less than 3 months hence.

3) In that announcement declare that after the set date, any illegal apprehended for ANY reason, without proof of registration, will be deported immediately - no family good-byes, no stopping by the house for another pair of shoes - IMMEDIATELY!

4) The registration process will determine if the illegal wishes to become a citizen or not.

5) If the illegal wishes to become a citizen, they are sent home (home country) to get in line with everybody else making application for citizenship.

6) If they do not wish to become a citizen, they set a date on which they will return home (home country) to allow us to run a background check and vet their re-entry. If they have been on the public dole during their illegal stay in our country, they will be DENIED!

7) After the return/re-entry date (#6 above) the rules of #3 will apply. If they have not gone through the process and are found in our country BY ANY MEANS, they will be immediately deported.

8) If a non-citizen attempts to register to vote, or votes, they will be deported IMMEDIATELY!

9) If a person is deported for violation of #2, #6 or #8, they will NEVER be allowed entry into the US for ANY reason. If their baby girl is dying of kidney failure and the only viable match is the deported illegal - the family better fly the girl to where the donor is, because the donor AIN’T GETTING BACK IN!

10) If a person is denied re-entry for being on the dole, they can re-apply in 5 years, and may be granted re-entry if they have been gainfully employed for that 5 years, AND only if NO family member (G-parents, parents, aunts, uncles, spouses, children, cousins, nieces, nephews) has been on the dole in the US for the last 3 years.

It starts with securing the border. Enforcement of deportation and re-entry rules, without sympathy or remorse, is absolutely key.


32 posted on 04/30/2013 9:06:28 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: MinuteGal

See post 27


33 posted on 04/30/2013 9:07:51 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: muawiyah

“Rubio is a hooteny glooteny fron-non and a wishy washy.”

Also a panty waist and a scoundrel.


34 posted on 04/30/2013 9:11:30 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: MinuteGal; All

Okay, about Americans for a ‘Conservative’ Direction...financed by the LEFT!!!!!! Isn’t it time to admit we’ve been SOLD OUT!!!????

To be Clear About Mark Zuckerberg’s Americans for a Conservative Direction

By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | April 24th, 2013 at 11:35

I just want to be clear about about the new front group for the Gang of Eight’s immigration proposal on the right, Americans for a Conservative Direction.

The group, funded by Facebook billionaire Mark Zuckerberg, is perfectly entitled to set up this group. A good bit of the center-right coalition supports the issue.[snip]

http://www.redstate.com/2013/04/24/to-be-clear-about-mark-zuckerbergs-americans-for-a-conservative-direction/

I QUIT facebook over Zuckerberg coming out for amnesty....I should have known Norquist/Conda were behind it.


35 posted on 04/30/2013 9:12:12 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So the Marxists at NPR like Rubio, hmmm.


36 posted on 04/30/2013 9:14:14 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: SeekAndFind

Ruck Fubio!


37 posted on 04/30/2013 9:17:33 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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38 posted on 04/30/2013 9:17:45 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind
And in the grass roots, Tea Party groups are split over the issue.

There's no Tea Party split that I'm aware of. Everyone in my circles despises this bill. Yet the media keeps insisting that Senor Rubio remains a 'Tea Party favorite'.

39 posted on 04/30/2013 9:17:46 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

For two days running I have received fundraising solicitations from Rubio. I donated quite a lot to his run against Crist and was glad to do it. Now, I’m glad he includes postage-paid envelopes with his solicitations so that I can economically tell him what a low, belly-dragging, snake in the grass he has turned out to be.

Ironically, today’s solicitation came in an envelope marked in huge black letters “DO NOT DESTROY”. If only the country was so marked.


40 posted on 04/30/2013 9:22:15 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: SeekAndFind

No way he’s been duped. Most likely he’s been promised the VP slot by Prince Jeb.


41 posted on 04/30/2013 9:24:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Among other things, the Senate immigration bill tightens security on the borders and creates a pathway for immigrants who came to the country illegally to become citizens.

Baloney! Enforcement of the law secures the border. Something which isn't done now and won't be done in the future.

Isn't there some way to appeal to Hispanics without rewarding them for breaking the law?

42 posted on 04/30/2013 9:27:39 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not a dupe? Then you must be a subversive pos.


43 posted on 04/30/2013 9:29:15 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Moonman62

The problem with Rubio, as for many American hispanics, is that they are more loyal to their foreign ethnic bretheren, than they are to America. Period.


44 posted on 04/30/2013 9:36:52 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: brownsfan

Lindsey is getting jealous, HE’s SUPPOSED to be McCain jr not Rubio.


45 posted on 04/30/2013 9:37:45 AM PDT by Chainsawj
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, don’t worry, Marky, I know you weren’t duped.

You are simply a liar, and you’re doing this on purpose.


46 posted on 04/30/2013 9:38:30 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is really ridiculous is that Rubio thinks that he or Jeb Bush can garner the Hispanic vote.

Jeb Bush got elected in Florida with the Cuban Hispanic vote.

Rubio is a Cuban Hispanic. He thinks like a Cuban Hispanic. That is where his rhetoric about the goodness of this country originates. His roots are in escape from Marxist/Socialism.

But, Cuban Hispanics do not think or vote like Mexicans.

Mexicans in my broad and long experience just don’t consider Cubans Hispanics. Mexicans are fiercely proud of being Mexican. Mexican is the best and only Hispanic. As and aside, I sympathize with and share that opinion. Mexico is being destroyed be emigration into the United States.

But Mexicans vote for Jeb Bush or Rubio? Don’t be fooled Conservatives. And don’t be fooled by Bush or Rubio again.

The above is why Hillary is beating both Bush and Rubio in the polls right now in Florida.


47 posted on 04/30/2013 9:39:09 AM PDT by amihow
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To: SeekAndFind

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48 posted on 04/30/2013 9:47:46 AM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: AuntB

Very information list there. I would say Rubio has been bought and paid for. He isn’t naive or misguided, he’s bought.


49 posted on 04/30/2013 9:54:36 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I’m afraid you are correct.

WHO is Americans for a Conservative Direction?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3014121/posts


50 posted on 04/30/2013 9:57:02 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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