Skip to comments.Marco Rubio Tries To Convince Conservatives He Hasn't Been Duped
Posted on 04/30/2013 8:12:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
In the current debate over revamping the nation's immigration laws, there may be no elected official with more on the line than Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.
Rubio, a Republican and Cuban-American from Miami, was elected to the Senate with strong support from the Tea Party and other conservatives. Rubio's challenge is to convince conservative skeptics that by supporting an immigration overhaul, he hasn't betrayed them.
Among other things, the Senate immigration bill tightens security on the borders and creates a pathway for immigrants who came to the country illegally to become citizens. Eight senators four Democrats and four Republicans helped write it. But since its introduction, Rubio is about the only one you see.
U.S. With Or Without Reform, Immigration Lawyers In Short Supply He has appeared on more than a dozen radio talk shows, targeting his pitch to the conservative Republicans who are some of the bill's most outspoken opponents.
When he appeared on talk radio's Laura Ingraham Show, the host asked: "Isn't it reasonable for these conservatives to assume that you've been duped here?"
"No, it isn't," Rubio responded, "because the fact of the matter is that this bill reflects principles that I issued back in January on immigration reform that were different from the principles the president had laid out. In essence, they've come to our position. We haven't gone to theirs."
One of the main concerns of radio talk show hosts, Tea Party activists and conservative bloggers is that Rubio and other Republicans are giving away too much on an issue they believe mostly helps Democrats.
After having Rubio on his show, conservative talk host Rush Limbaugh warned of the consequences. "There's no doubt there's a correlation: '86 amnesty and the Republican Party lost California," he said.
Limbaugh was talking about the 1986 immigration overhaul bill supported by Republicans, including President Ronald Reagan, that granted amnesty to nearly 3 million immigrants who had come to the United States illegally. Limbaugh and other conservatives say that amnesty helped spur more illegal immigration and created new Latino voters who helped put California in the Democratic column.
"There are legitimate fears that the same thing is going to happen to the country that Republicans, conservatives, are going to end up just being outnumbered," Limbaugh said.
Rubio's office has dismissed fears that immigration reform will create a bonanza of new Democrats. Not all of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants will become citizens, they say, and an even smaller percentage will vote. And many Republicans say the right candidate with a history of doing well with Hispanics like Rubio or former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, for example could do a lot to turn it around.
But for Rubio and other Republicans pushing the immigration bill, the conservative backlash is the immediate problem, and they are doing what they can to tamp it down. Americans for a Conservative Direction is running ads in Florida, North Carolina, Texas and three other states.
YouTube One ad features footage of Rubio saying: "What we have in place today is de facto amnesty." A narrator adds: "Conservative leaders have a plan the toughest enforcement measure in the history of the United States."
While the pushback from the right against immigration reform is worrying to some Republicans, it's not likely to derail the bill. Some of the best-funded conservative organizations like Americans for Prosperity, the Club for Growth and FreedomWorks are staying out of the fight. And in the grass roots, Tea Party groups are split over the issue.
Within the Republican Party, there are many like Miami Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart who says the push for an immigration overhaul just recognizes reality.
"I wish we didn't have a Democratically controlled Senate and a Democratic president. But that's the reality," Diaz-Balart says. "So if we're going to pass legislation to deal with these issues that everybody understands have to be fixed, it's going to have to be a bipartisan bill."
Earlier this month, a group of Tea Party supporters held a protest at Rubio's office in Palm Beach County to express their displeasure with his support for the bill. It was a potentially worrying incident for Rubio.
But one of the demonstration's leaders, Jim McGovern, says while they may disagree over this issue, he still likes Rubio.
"Short of his committing a mortal sin or something like that, in my eyes, I'm still going to be a Rubio supporter," McGovern says.
On the radio talk shows, Rubio has had to answer some tough questions but has been mostly treated well. In the meantime, Rubio is being praised for his leadership and political courage qualities that could be important in any future runs, including for president.
Rubio is a hooteny glooteny fron-non and a wishy washy.
Hmmmm probably he’s right. He’s NOT being duped....he’s doing and choosing this in full knowledge.
Marco “McCain” Rubio?
Just another beltway insider trying to keep his place at the public trough.
TRUST ME? Are you kidding? This is where we have been lead to now? It needs to be in the Bill not in someone’s ego.
Rubio is a fraud and a traitor. He should be shunned.
Then Rubio's office is staffed by liars or fools.
Haven’t conservatives heard this same song with the names of “McCain” and “Romney” plugged in where “Rubio” is now? It’s the same “Lucy and the Football” scam we all recognize by now.
There are people being duped, but it’s Rubio duping Republicans and conservatives. It’s time he was run out of the party.
We beat back George W. Bush on this ... and he was in a lot stronger position than either Rubio or Obama.
Do it again.
McCain thinks it would be seen as antagonistic.
Weeks ago, when he started on his amnesty/comprehensive immigration push, I thought he was just naive.
Since then, however, I think he is fully in on the ole shell game.
Previously, he was saying he would not support any bill that did not have border security as the #1 issue. Now, his plan is kicking that can down the road, under Homeland Security. If HSD doesn’t secure the border — IN 5 YEARS — the a special commission gets formed.
Ye ole shell game — 5 minutes after his bill gets passed, the border security part goes into the trash can.
Immigrants that side with conservatives don’t need amnesty.
Dubious was always squishy on immigration
IF it were combined with truly effective measures to cut way down on future illegal (and legal) immigration, prevent them working here illegally, encourage assimilation, etc. Something like a 20-year time-out.
Since any "immigration reform" that is passed will in reality be 125% implemented as far as the "reform" part goes and immediately not enforced as far as the restrictions go, I can't support any "reform" measures capable of passing Congress.
But it is a shame we can't have an honest debate on how many and who we wish to let into the country, and then enforce whatever laws we decide on as a result of that debate.
I believe Senator Sessions
At the end of that time they'll go back home.
The bill is amnesty for 11+ million Mexicans.
The Dems want it because they know it will give them 11+ million new voters on the welfare ticket that will put them in power for the rest of eternity.
Marco Rubio wants it because he thinks it will give him 11+ million new voters on the "Your skin color looks like my skin color" ticket and that will put him in power for the rest of his life.
Marco saw that skin color politics worked like magic for Obama, who is the lamest excuse for a black man I have ever seen. He is betting he can do the same. What he is forgetting is those same blacks that voted for Obama would never vote for Allen West. Why? Because WELFARE > skin color.
When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. -Benjamin Franklin
That needs to be repeated!
What is a Rubio?
“”Short of his committing a mortal sin or something like that, in my eyes, I’m still going to be a Rubio supporter,” McGovern says. “
There seems to be a lot of that going around lately...INSANE! These men are POLITICIANS! They’ve done NOTHING to earn this kind of blind loyalty.
“A narrator adds: “Conservative leaders have a plan the toughest enforcement measure in the history of the United States.” “
THESE are the kind of lies Rubio is spreading.....’Good conservative’ my butt.
This outfit is mentioned? Americans for a Conservative Direction
IT IS A RUBIO AMNESTY AD! RUN BY AMNESTY HACKS!
Former Governor Haley Barbour served as the 62nd governor of Mississippi from 2004 to 2012 and served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee in the mid ‘90s.
Sally Bradshaw worked as former Florida Governor Jeb Bushs Chief of Staff from 1999-2001, and served as a Co-Chair of the Republican National Committees Growth and Opportunity Project.
Joel Kaplan is currently Vice President of US Public Policy at Facebook. Joel also served as Deputy Chief of Staff to former President George W. Bush.
Dan Senor is former chief advisor to Representative Paul Ryan on the Romney-Ryan 2012 campaign
Rob Jesmer worked as the former Executive Director at the National Republican Senatorial Committee from 2008 2012.
Something has to be done eventually about these ‘non profits’.
Since you can’t convince me that you are not a progressive rubio... you damned sure are not going to convince me that you are capable of telling the truth about anything.
We have trusted Congress since 1965... FOUR TIMES... and FOUR TIMES THEY HAVE BROKEN THAT TRUST. FU rubio... you progressive liar!
“Then Rubio’s office is staffed by liars or fools. “
Meet Cesar Conda, Rubio’s chief of staff.
Meet Grover Norquist, the gang of 8 spokesman, the man who is writing the majority of this bill for his Corporate bosses, who wrote the Bush amnesty.
Grover Norquist: A Republican who acts like a Democrat?
What a nerve for these little known groups to be running ads and speaking for conservatives. They DON'T speak for me, no way, no how.
And "The Tea Party groups are split over the issue".....show me the source for this statement thrown out as fact. Two people interviewed doesn't make a poll. And how does an amorphous entity like the Tea Party get polled, anyhow!
Led by Rubio it appears that many faux conservatives and faux conservative groups are being set in motion to get a bill rammed through that will destroy the Republican party for the unforeseeable future, make it impossible to find well-paying employment, and skyrocket welfare and other entitlement payouts to impossible proportions.
Yep, we're being destroyed from within, alright....even from within so-called "conservative" groups who look on Rubio as an idol and are rallying around him to protect and promote him like he is the Simon Bolivar of North America.
I get tired of all the blather the politicians spew out - when the solution is clear:
1) SECURE THE BORDER
2) Announce that all illegal aliens must regester with immigration by a date less than 3 months hence.
3) In that announcement declare that after the set date, any illegal apprehended for ANY reason, without proof of registration, will be deported immediately - no family good-byes, no stopping by the house for another pair of shoes - IMMEDIATELY!
4) The registration process will determine if the illegal wishes to become a citizen or not.
5) If the illegal wishes to become a citizen, they are sent home (home country) to get in line with everybody else making application for citizenship.
6) If they do not wish to become a citizen, they set a date on which they will return home (home country) to allow us to run a background check and vet their re-entry. If they have been on the public dole during their illegal stay in our country, they will be DENIED!
7) After the return/re-entry date (#6 above) the rules of #3 will apply. If they have not gone through the process and are found in our country BY ANY MEANS, they will be immediately deported.
8) If a non-citizen attempts to register to vote, or votes, they will be deported IMMEDIATELY!
9) If a person is deported for violation of #2, #6 or #8, they will NEVER be allowed entry into the US for ANY reason. If their baby girl is dying of kidney failure and the only viable match is the deported illegal - the family better fly the girl to where the donor is, because the donor AIN’T GETTING BACK IN!
10) If a person is denied re-entry for being on the dole, they can re-apply in 5 years, and may be granted re-entry if they have been gainfully employed for that 5 years, AND only if NO family member (G-parents, parents, aunts, uncles, spouses, children, cousins, nieces, nephews) has been on the dole in the US for the last 3 years.
It starts with securing the border. Enforcement of deportation and re-entry rules, without sympathy or remorse, is absolutely key.
See post 27
“Rubio is a hooteny glooteny fron-non and a wishy washy.”
Also a panty waist and a scoundrel.
Okay, about Americans for a ‘Conservative’ Direction...financed by the LEFT!!!!!! Isn’t it time to admit we’ve been SOLD OUT!!!????
To be Clear About Mark Zuckerbergs Americans for a Conservative Direction
By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | April 24th, 2013 at 11:35
I just want to be clear about about the new front group for the Gang of Eights immigration proposal on the right, Americans for a Conservative Direction.
The group, funded by Facebook billionaire Mark Zuckerberg, is perfectly entitled to set up this group. A good bit of the center-right coalition supports the issue.[snip]
I QUIT facebook over Zuckerberg coming out for amnesty....I should have known Norquist/Conda were behind it.
So the Marxists at NPR like Rubio, hmmm.
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There's no Tea Party split that I'm aware of. Everyone in my circles despises this bill. Yet the media keeps insisting that Senor Rubio remains a 'Tea Party favorite'.
For two days running I have received fundraising solicitations from Rubio. I donated quite a lot to his run against Crist and was glad to do it. Now, I’m glad he includes postage-paid envelopes with his solicitations so that I can economically tell him what a low, belly-dragging, snake in the grass he has turned out to be.
Ironically, today’s solicitation came in an envelope marked in huge black letters “DO NOT DESTROY”. If only the country was so marked.
No way he’s been duped. Most likely he’s been promised the VP slot by Prince Jeb.
Baloney! Enforcement of the law secures the border. Something which isn't done now and won't be done in the future.
Isn't there some way to appeal to Hispanics without rewarding them for breaking the law?
Not a dupe? Then you must be a subversive pos.
The problem with Rubio, as for many American hispanics, is that they are more loyal to their foreign ethnic bretheren, than they are to America. Period.
Lindsey is getting jealous, HE’s SUPPOSED to be McCain jr not Rubio.
Oh, don’t worry, Marky, I know you weren’t duped.
You are simply a liar, and you’re doing this on purpose.
What is really ridiculous is that Rubio thinks that he or Jeb Bush can garner the Hispanic vote.
Jeb Bush got elected in Florida with the Cuban Hispanic vote.
Rubio is a Cuban Hispanic. He thinks like a Cuban Hispanic. That is where his rhetoric about the goodness of this country originates. His roots are in escape from Marxist/Socialism.
But, Cuban Hispanics do not think or vote like Mexicans.
Mexicans in my broad and long experience just don’t consider Cubans Hispanics. Mexicans are fiercely proud of being Mexican. Mexican is the best and only Hispanic. As and aside, I sympathize with and share that opinion. Mexico is being destroyed be emigration into the United States.
But Mexicans vote for Jeb Bush or Rubio? Don’t be fooled Conservatives. And don’t be fooled by Bush or Rubio again.
The above is why Hillary is beating both Bush and Rubio in the polls right now in Florida.
Very information list there. I would say Rubio has been bought and paid for. He isn’t naive or misguided, he’s bought.
I’m afraid you are correct.
WHO is Americans for a Conservative Direction?