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To: Jacquerie
The 17th removed State agency from the federal republic. As predicted by Montesquieu, Federalists and Anti-Federalists alike, we slipped into an overwhelming, consolidated national government that oppresses both the States and us with raw force.

For most of my life, I thought the 17th was a good idea. But a few FReepers' posts have lately precipitated my re-examination of my stance.

As I look around me at the people now in my neighborhood, in my precinct, my county and State, I can see plainly we are not the same people as we were in my youth. We do not select U.S. Senators very well now. I wonder if we did back then either.

Perhaps our Founders should have proscribed one six-year term only for each Senator. After their term expired, each could run again but only after sitting out a six-year period and remaining a full-time resident and not just property owner in the State they represented. Of course, the 17th cannot be changed peacefully now.
8 posted on 05/01/2013 5:30:43 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Throughout the writings of many founders you will see their disgust and emphatic warnings of governments of the popular character.

Madison’s Federalist Ten and George Washington’s Farewell Address spring immediately into mind, as well as Hamilton’s Federalist One.

There were several Federalist papers written on the necessity of the Senate being composed of a different character than the House. Now they are the same chambers, just with different rules.

The dangers of popular governments were even written about by Plato. It’s nothing new.


19 posted on 05/01/2013 9:58:46 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberal: A person who charges their grandchildren for today's party)
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To: Resettozero
Delegates to the Confederation Congress had three years on/three years off term limits. That the Framers rejected term limits was unfortunate.

The quality of State legislators would increase if they were responsible for the Senators they appointed. That's what the Lincoln/Douglas debates were about. State legislators had to be up and knowledgeable of national affairs. A dolt for State Assembly who could not intelligently discuss slavery, imposts as well as State issues didn't have a chance.

As for repeal, I'd appreciate your feedback to:

Repeal the 17th Amendment to Restore the 10th.

21 posted on 05/01/2013 10:11:11 AM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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