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Federal Approval Near for Opening of Horse Meat Processing Plant in New Mexico
NY Times ^ | April 30, 2013 | AP

Posted on 05/01/2013 4:31:41 AM PDT by iowamark

The southern New Mexico plant that has been fighting for more than a year for permission to slaughter horses will open soon, unless Congress reinstates a ban on the practice, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said Tuesday.

In a telephone interview on Tuesday, Mr. Vilsack said his department was working to make sure the process was handled properly for the opening of what would be the first domestic horse slaughterhouse in six years.

“We are going to do this, and I would imagine that it would be done relatively soon,” he said.

The Valley Meat Company sued the Department of Agriculture last year, asserting that inaction on its application was driven by emotional political debates and that the delays had cost it hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The department reinspected the plant last week.

“It will open unless Congress restores the ban on horse slaughter that they had in place,” Mr. Vilsack said. “If that doesn’t happen, then we are duty bound to do what needs to be done to allow that plant to begin processing.”

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Get ready to eat horse. And you will never know it.
1 posted on 05/01/2013 4:31:41 AM PDT by iowamark
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Our Secretary of State:


2 posted on 05/01/2013 4:34:24 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Horse. It’s what’s for dinner.


3 posted on 05/01/2013 4:48:10 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: iowamark

Nothing wrong with horse meat.


4 posted on 05/01/2013 5:02:58 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: iowamark
Get ready to eat horse. And you will never know it.

Neigh, neigh, a thousand times neigh!

5 posted on 05/01/2013 5:06:22 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: iowamark

i think you got a picture of the wrong end.


6 posted on 05/01/2013 5:12:35 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: iowamark

I’ll eat horse meat if it makes Moslems puke.


7 posted on 05/01/2013 5:15:28 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors.)
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To: riverrunner
Would you eat a dog? A horse's intelligence is akin to a dog while cows, are dumber than stumps. That's what's wrong with horse meat. Also, in order for horse meat to be palatable, its movement will have to be restricted long enough for the muscle to wane and the fat to increase. Think about that.
8 posted on 05/01/2013 5:26:26 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: iowamark

Did you ever taste it? I did, accidentally in Belgium where they make their hamburgers out if it. Trust me, you will spit it out.


9 posted on 05/01/2013 5:31:11 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: iowamark

“Wilburrrr......wha-what are you doing with that chain saw, Wilburrrrrrr!!!?”


10 posted on 05/01/2013 5:35:55 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: iowamark

My dad (while he lived with me at the end of his life) never knew that 90% of the ‘beef’ he ate was deer.


11 posted on 05/01/2013 5:41:04 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: liberalh8ter

True, true...


12 posted on 05/01/2013 5:41:35 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: liberalh8ter

I would eat dog, cat and any other meat I would find suitable.

Deer elk and other game don’t restrict their movements. I find them very good eating.


13 posted on 05/01/2013 5:57:52 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner
Deer elk and other game aren't built like horses. Look at the muscle structure of a horse.....they're pure muscle. The time it would take to restrict the horse's movement to allow for meat to tenderize would amount to a painful existence for the horse.

I'm sorry to hear you'd eat dog or cat. I guess the proper question would be, what wouldn't you eat?

14 posted on 05/01/2013 6:08:31 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

I am puzzled at your comparison of deer and horse. I’ve helped butcher deer. There is barely any fat inside the muscle, just a thin layer around some cuts. The deer on my property may sleep during some of the day, but we see them at all hours and they run, walk and move most of the time. Compared to grazing horses I’ve observed, the deer can be more highly active. The local deer feed on corn and berries.

The key to tender deer meat is hanging, short periods of marinade and quick cooking. The large muscle cuts are tender and tasty. The tougher cuts are ground. The meat in the neck and legs is full of tendon and can even be difficult to grind, as the tendon will wrap around the auger and clog the plate. I simmer these cuts until tender and use them for dog food. The collagen in the connective tissue is good for the dog.

I’ve spoken with people who have eaten horse. One comment heard a lot is that it is *sweeter* than beef.

I’d try it and make up my own mind.


15 posted on 05/01/2013 6:38:02 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: iowamark

They have slaughtered horse meat for many decades and unless your taste buds are dead you would know if you had horse meat, it is different even the ground stuff.

In the meantime they have just been exporting horses across the border while Vilsak and his cohorts ignored the law.


16 posted on 05/01/2013 6:47:51 AM PDT by tiki
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

That is what I’ve heard from several people. I haven’t ever tasted it though.


17 posted on 05/01/2013 6:49:14 AM PDT by tiki
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To: liberalh8ter

Ya know, the horses that get slaughtered are those that are unwanted. They are too old or the people think they can afford to keep a horse and find they can’t.

What has been inhumane is the horses that have starved to death because their owners couldn’t afford to feed them and that is why we can slaughter horses again.


18 posted on 05/01/2013 6:52:14 AM PDT by tiki
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To: iowamark

I wonder if Whole Foods will carry it...


19 posted on 05/01/2013 6:55:54 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: liberalh8ter

Horses aren’t raised for slaughter like cows, nor are they hunted. Most of those that are slaughtered belonged to irresponsible owners and lacking the slaughterhouse many just starved to death.

We have had many horses and we kept them up to their old age and never sent one to slaughter but when it got to where they could no longer eat or lay down and you could see that they were in excruciating pain, we shot them.

The guy I know who has been sending them to slaughter in Mexico just feeds them like you would a normal horse until he gets a truck load.

I’ve seen pleasure horses locked up in a stall most of their lives and it had nothing to do with eating them.


20 posted on 05/01/2013 6:58:33 AM PDT by tiki
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To: liberalh8ter
Horses have been food for ever. It is just that in this country we have been become very rich.

Thus we have taken only to eating what we consider the choicest meats.

That really only happen in the less hundred years or so.

21 posted on 05/01/2013 6:58:42 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: liberalh8ter

Hate to break it to you, but horses don’t get fattened up for slaughter. And most horse owners I know support slaughtering horses, because there are too many unwanted horses living in miserable conditions or turned loose.

Right now, horses going to slaughter are trucked to Mexico, where the quality control is...mexican. It would be far better for the horses to be shipped less, and killed more humanely.


22 posted on 05/01/2013 6:59:09 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: iowamark

Well, it’s about time McDonalds just comes out and...nevermind.


23 posted on 05/01/2013 7:01:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: iowamark

Without local processing plants it only makes it more expensive to put down a horse.

Last horse I put down cost $250. Many people simply go to the auction house and sell their horses for $50-$100 to the meat guys, who drive them across the border where the horse is slaughtered without ANY regulations.

Raising the price of disposal does not help the quality of a horse’s life. It often leads to neglect or even abandonment.

And most of the horses get slaughtered anyway in Mexico or Canada, in very inhumane conditions.


24 posted on 05/01/2013 7:01:26 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: liberalh8ter

You don’t have to restrict a horses movement for it to get fat. Just put a round bale of hay in front of it and it will stand there all day long eating.

Most breeds get fat very easily.


25 posted on 05/01/2013 7:01:26 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: reformedliberal

Deer get a lot more activity than horses. Deer have to search for food, water and shelter, often times over a territory of a square mile or more depending on where their food is in comparison to their water and shelter.

Humans on the other hand confine horses in fences and bring their food and water to them.

Although I am a horse lover, I would like to try horse meat sometime.


26 posted on 05/01/2013 7:01:26 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: CodeToad
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27 posted on 05/01/2013 7:10:01 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: tiki
You're approaching this from the angle of unwanted horses being slaughtered as a humane act and the meat is then rendered for use. Instead, look at this as an introduction of horse meat to the American diet and then consider that horses will be bred and raised TO be slaughtered for the meat. As the market for horse meat increases, the market will reward the breeders whose animals are the tastiest. As with cows, the cross breeding that produces a well marbled meat will become the standard.

In the beef industry, the cows are pastured to a certain age at which time they go to market - usually at about the 8 month to 1 year mark. The cows are then sent to the feed lot where they are grain fed for a period of time so as to fatten them up. They are held in small areas and the weight is put on them slowly, so as not to create a fatty meat but more to encourage the marbling that is inherent in their cross breed.

As Americans become more comfortable with eating horses, the same can be expected.

28 posted on 05/01/2013 7:12:11 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Alex in chains
The fat needed to tenderize the meat is the fat you need within the tissue, not surrounding it. That takes time. In the meantime, the horse will need to be confined with other horses awaiting the same fate and cannot be treated for parasites and flies. We're talking about an animal that isn't dumb as a stump.
29 posted on 05/01/2013 7:26:05 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Please see my post #28. As far as horse owners go, I am one, have been all my life. I've trained and shown horses. I live in an equestrian community. You will not find one person here who supports this, I guarantee it.
30 posted on 05/01/2013 7:28:34 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: tiki
The guy I know who has been sending them to slaughter in Mexico just feeds them like you would a normal horse until he gets a truck load.

Ask him if they're slaughtered immediately or if they're held in a feed lot.

31 posted on 05/01/2013 7:31:02 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Odd. I haven’t met any horse owners who reject slaughterhouses in the US.

Why do YOU want horses to be shipped to Mexico in trucks, and killed inhumanely without inspectors there?


32 posted on 05/01/2013 7:31:22 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: liberalh8ter

Horses will never be raised for slaughter. They are too expensive and fragile compared to cattle, and aren’t bred to gain maximum weight for the least food.


33 posted on 05/01/2013 7:32:32 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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Why do YOU want horses to be shipped to Mexico in trucks, and killed inhumanely without inspectors there?

I'm opposed to the BLM rounding up horses to begin with. How much land does Fedzilla have?

34 posted on 05/01/2013 7:37:01 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Horses will never be raised for slaughter

Think again. They will become a commodity once eating them goes mainstream.

35 posted on 05/01/2013 7:39:22 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter
"I'm opposed to the BLM rounding up horses to begin with."

I'm not. However, we are not discussing BLM mustangs going to slaughter. If you don't understand that, then I doubt you really know squat about horses.

"They will become a commodity once eating them goes mainstream. "

Nope. Not economical. Horses couldn't compete with cattle. Again, if you don't understand that, then you don't know much about horses.


36 posted on 05/01/2013 7:49:15 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Mr Rogers
Oh, okay.....I know nothing about horses. A lifetime of horsemanship and I know nothing.

Do you realize a grade horse after weaning can sell for less than a Heifer? Also, horses were a form of personal transportation and then for fun, they were raced. That's not now its own industry, correct? Showing horses isn't its own industry, correct? Polo? <==== not its own industry?

But then again, I know nothing.

37 posted on 05/01/2013 7:56:28 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Nope. You sound like someone who knows nothing about horses. Sorry.


38 posted on 05/01/2013 8:02:38 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Mr Rogers
Okay Mr. Rogers. I cede to your obvious authority on the subject. Just because you declare it so. Don't let facts get in the way, just make your own declaration.
39 posted on 05/01/2013 8:09:53 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Diets change....I have eaten horse meat in Italy...sweet is what I remember..its just another protein...and available if we chose to eat it...


40 posted on 05/01/2013 8:10:56 AM PDT by Youngman542012
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To: Alex in chains

Do yourself a favor and take a trip up to Quebec.
Horse steak in Quebec City and it was easily the best steak I ever tasted.
Because there’s so little fat, you have to eat it rare.
Wish I could get it here - but I’m sure USDA would find a way to screw it up.


41 posted on 05/01/2013 8:16:24 AM PDT by Vide
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To: liberalh8ter

Horses were slaughtered here in the US until 2007 (I believe). And they were never raised for slaughter.

Having had horses most of my life, I know that they get fat very easily. They don’t need to be “painfully restricted” to get fat.


42 posted on 05/01/2013 8:35:15 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: Alex in chains

Please look into the Belgium breed of Adrennes horse. It’s primarily used for meat procurement in Europe. You can fatten a horse up quickly but that doesn’t make the meat tender, there’s a difference between fattening for tenderness and flavor vs. putting weight on the horse.


43 posted on 05/01/2013 8:59:11 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

You have no facts. You worry about BLM mustangs being shipped off to slaughter. You think horses will rival cattle as meat animals, although cattle are much better at turning grass into meat. You worry about horses being slaughtered in the US, but they are currently being trucked to Mexico and killed there.

In response, you have...what? That horsies are too smart to be used for food? Hint - they already are, horses that no one wants, picked up by kill buyers and trucked to Mexico and killed under horrible conditions. And you want them to KEEP being trucked to Mexico! Why? Are you nuts?

Besides...horses are not all that smart. I’ve got 3 in my backyard, and their intellect is underwhelming. Nice personalities, but not geniuses.


44 posted on 05/01/2013 10:42:24 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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And having three 'horsies' in your backyard makes you an authority? I have facts....look at Europe where horse meat is cheaper than that of the cow. Look at the draft breeds that are now used for beef. You didn't think the were enough horse abusers in Europe that they continually supplied the market, did you? It's an industry and it could very well happen here.

As far as cattle's efficiency at turning grass into beef.....a cow consumes less as it chews its cud but a horse forages on a wider variety of plant life. A cow requires continual grass growth which is why they are supplemented in the winter months with liquid molasses and mineral - a very expensive season for cattle ranchers. The horse's incisors allow it to eat the shorter grass longer into the winter, therefore requiring less supplementation.

If a horse is a pet that has to be euthanized it isn't going to Mexico to be slaughtered as the euthanasia process would preclude it from being used for consumption, either by humans or to be used in dog food. That leaves us with abusers - a problem more widespread and manageable vs. the BLM's roundup and ship out. The horses the BLM are rounding up and shipping out are as a result of cattle ranchers using BLM land to graze cattle. It cuts costs for the cattle rancher to rotate to BLM land than it is to continually fortify pastureland.

I'm sorry to hear your horses aren't intelligent....perhaps it's their breeding or perhaps it's the person trying to work with them. It's impossible for me to know since 'I know nothing about horses'.

45 posted on 05/01/2013 11:17:36 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

“look at Europe where horse meat is cheaper than that of the cow.”

That is in Europe, where strict regulations and tiny farms drive the price of beef up. There is a reason the Europeans don’t want us shipping US beef to their market, and it ain’t mad cow disease.

“You didn’t think the were enough horse abusers in Europe that they continually supplied the market, did you?”

Abusers? Are cattle that are killed “abused”? And as I pointed out, Europe has a very different market than the USA.

“A cow requires continual grass growth which is why they are supplemented in the winter months with liquid molasses and mineral - a very expensive season for cattle ranchers. The horse’s incisors allow it to eat the shorter grass longer into the winter, therefore requiring less supplementation.”

You don’t live out west, do you...cattle are left on winter range. And they do better than horses left on winter range, which end up damn skinny.

“If a horse is a pet that has to be euthanized it isn’t going to Mexico”

Ignorance. Lots of backyard horses end up going to slaughter, not euthanasia.

“The horses the BLM are rounding up and shipping out are as a result of cattle ranchers using BLM land to graze cattle. It cuts costs for the cattle rancher to rotate to BLM land than it is to continually fortify pastureland.”

No. BLM mustangs eat too much and will graze themselves into starvation. The BLM is NOT doing ranchers any favors in the west. You also don’t seem to understand how much land in the west is Federal...

“I’m sorry to hear your horses aren’t intelligent....perhaps it’s their breeding or perhaps it’s the person trying to work with them.”

Sorry. Your problem is that you are NOT any smarter than a horse, and thus can’t recognize how stupid they are.


46 posted on 05/01/2013 11:42:39 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: liberalh8ter
Our BLM mustang. How many do you own?


47 posted on 05/01/2013 11:44:00 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Mr Rogers

Bless your heart.


48 posted on 05/01/2013 12:24:38 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Aging the meat will tenderize it just fine. Would you prefer that we continue shipping horses to Mexico slaughterhouses where they get their throats cut with a knife?


49 posted on 05/01/2013 3:30:32 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: B4Ranch
Absolutely not. I'd prefer they not be slaughtered, at all. I find eating horses to be akin to eating dogs or cats.
50 posted on 05/01/2013 3:57:25 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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